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Old 04-22-2020, 02:40 PM
AggiePhil AggiePhil is offline
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Who should I send NIB 1970s Combat Commander to?

Have a NIB blued Colt Combat Commander in .38 Super from 1982 that belonged to my dad. Looking for a really good smith to send it to for barrel fitting, sights, checkering, beaver tail, etc. Any recommendations and some ballpark cost estimates? Pretty new to the 1911 game. Thanks!

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Old 04-22-2020, 02:45 PM
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Jason Burton at Heirloom Precision
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Old 04-22-2020, 03:01 PM
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Jason Burton at Heirloom Precision

I follow him on IG and have heard nothing but great things. That said, I believe his builds are $5,000 and up...on the low end.

What about Mark Regenauer at Evolution Armory? Anyone heard anything about him?
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Old 04-22-2020, 03:05 PM
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Dave Panciotti at Evolution Armory in NH.

ETA: Posted while you were asking Mark runs the place but Dave who worked at Colt does the smithing I believe.

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Old 04-22-2020, 03:08 PM
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The best pistol-smiths in the world post on this forum. I'd go through some of their posts and see exactly what you like. There are some younger smiths who post here too. What might be an issue is their waiting list or your budget, but I believe they're all willing to advise you and help you make your decisions.
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Old 04-22-2020, 03:14 PM
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I'm quite pleased by the work done by David Sams in Virginia or by Greg Derr.
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Old 04-22-2020, 03:15 PM
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Awesome. Iím not in a hurry at all but I donít want to spend $5,000 either. Now if this was a 45, I might be willing to spend a bit more. But since itís 38 Super, I donít want to go for broke. What are some ballpark figures for the services I listed?
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Old 04-22-2020, 03:30 PM
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I think a 38 Super Combat Commander would be way cool. Greg Derr is building me a LW Commander 45 right now. It's a late 1960s gun. We're using the stock Colt barrel because the budget was something I needed to pay attention to also. He is a great guy and easy to work with. And he's also the 2019 APG Pistolsmith of the Year.
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Old 04-22-2020, 03:41 PM
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A NIB Commander from the 70's in 38 Super???

I wouldn't do anything to it.
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Old 04-22-2020, 03:44 PM
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Who should I send NIB 1970s Combat Commander to?

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A NIB Commander from the 70's in 38 Super???

I wouldn't do anything to it.

Just leave it in the safe forever? Itís also missing the barrel. I feel like using it for a really nice build would be a better homage to my dad.

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Old 04-22-2020, 04:08 PM
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Well then, skip my comment about using the stock barrel to save money.
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:15 PM
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What about Mark Regenauer at Evolution Armory? Anyone heard anything about him?
EA is an outstanding outfit and you can't go wrong with them.

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Awesome. Iím not in a hurry at all but I donít want to spend $5,000 either. Now if this was a 45, I might be willing to spend a bit more. But since itís 38 Super, I donít want to go for broke. What are some ballpark figures for the services I listed?
You don't have to spend that much to get a great build; that said, I don't get why it'd be okay in .45ACP and not .38 Super (a round for the 1911 that goes back to the '30s), but to each their own.

Go to EA's site to get an idea of their prices -- many of there services your interested in are listed.

I'd be prepared to spend in the ballpark of $2K all-in for what you want. EA can do it, as can most of the semi-custom houses (Wilson Combat, Nighthawk, Guncrafter) and any of the great gunsmiths discussed here every day -- run a search.

Since you're looking at barrel fitting, that is where'd I'd consider specific pistol smiths known for top-tier fitting, something you won't see from the semi-custom houses.

EA can do it; Dave Sams was mentioned, and he can, too. I'd also look at Joe Chambers.
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:17 PM
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Just leave it in the safe forever? Itís also missing the barrel. I feel like using it for a really nice build would be a better homage to my dad.
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You kinda left that part out.....

FWIW...... Missing a barrel is hardly NIB......
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:19 PM
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Innovative Custom Guns. Seems Jim Milks is a well kept secret but his work is fantastic.
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:21 PM
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Who should I send NIB 1970s Combat Commander to?

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You kinda left that part out.....

FWIW...... Missing a barrel is hardly NIB......

lol yeah sorry. I guess I had assumed I would want to use the stock barrel anyway. Are stock Colt barrels good? Seems like I usually see people using match barrels. This gunís twin sister (pictured below) was customized by Jim Clark Sr. and has a Bar-Sto barrel.

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Old 04-22-2020, 04:22 PM
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The barrel is missing because my dad started separating barrels from guns following a home burglary in the early 1980s. I probably have the barrel somewhere in storage, just havenít found it yet.
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:26 PM
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Definitely keep the Jim Clark gun as is. It looks great!
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:30 PM
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Definitely keep the Jim Clark gun as is. It looks great!

I agree...but, I am considering replacing the Pachmayer MSH with a checkered metal one, replacing the grip safety with a beaver tail (digs into my hand as-is), and replacing the grips. Might have the FS checkered but not sure yet.

Also, would it be possible to have the slide serrations sharpened up without refinishing or would that be required? The dehorning knocked them down a bit too much IMO.
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:35 PM
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That is a beauty. I would not hesitate to have work done on it to make it a better shooter. I like all the modifications / options you have mentioned. Maybe engrave his initials on it? (I am a sentimental)

It has been several years since i have had custom work done. I had fantastic experience, but I went to high end custom guys (retired). you pay a little more.

I think you are wise to listen to members here, the ones with recent experiences. I look forward to also hearing the recommendations.

When you get it back please post the pictures... I would love to see them.

good luck
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:38 PM
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Just to confirm, is it from the 70s? The serial starts with 80 (as seen on the white label).
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:39 PM
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Regardless of what path you choose it is awesome to have and be able to shoot your dad's guns. Hope you get many years of enjoyment out of them.
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:42 PM
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Great Bullseye Pistol Gunsmiths below - no particular order
(Any of these guys can build you a great gun, some may not be taking work so best to call)

Note 1: I’m a fan of the Rock River Arms 20 LPI MSH
Note 2: Colt barrels are pretty good but a KKM/Kart properly fit will be much better, IMO, test before you replace and let the Gunsmith let you know if the barrel will serve or not.
Note 3: I’m a fan of Kensight sharkskin grips. Inexpensive and super grip, too sharp for conceal carry to me.
Note 4: If you mess with the slide you may end up refinishing it, but probably not a big deal as that’s most likely going to happen anyway after you fit a beavertail to make them match.
Note 5: Lots of different beaver tails, my individual preference is STI and they have a unique look.
Note 6: Colt front straps are a little thin compared to Springfield and 20 LPI may be challenging but you can get close. I like 20 LPI as it has more grip and I don’t find it irritating and haven’t had problems with snagging.
Note 7: You may want to get a trigger job while it’s in, and that may mean dumping the old Colt drop in trigger. Grab some grips and see what fits you best (S/M/L). Videcki style triggers are inexpensive, work great, but if I could do it again on all my full custom 1911s I would go with Harrison HD-101-B Extreme Service 1911 Triggers to make the feel match my bullseye revolvers more closely.
Note 8: If it says “drop in” I won’t use it.

Similar but different. Dave Sams did the work on a Colt Combat Commander (XSE) that my Mother gave me before she passed. Very happy with it as I am with all the firearms Dave worked on or built for me.





10 shot 50 yard group from a Ransom Rest with the factory barrel and new bushing.





Greg Derr
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Joe Chambers
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David Sams
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Roddy Toyota

KC Crawford
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Ed Masaki

Jon Eulette

Sandy Garrett
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Dave Salyer
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:46 PM
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Thanks so much, Jawhawk! I will look into all those guys!

I did order a Wilson Combat MSH and drop-in beaver tail for the stainless gun (or is it nickel) but hadnít considered RRA. For the blued gun, Iíll probably leave it up to the builder.
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:50 PM
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A NIB Commander from the 70's in 38 Super???

I wouldn't do anything to it.
This!
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Old 04-22-2020, 04:56 PM
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Just to confirm, is it from the 70s? The serial starts with 80 (as seen on the white label).
1982 according to Colts look up.
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