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Old 03-18-2020, 10:35 AM
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an interesting confrontation

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Old 03-22-2020, 07:10 PM
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I didn't listen to it.....might have to watch again and turn my speakers on to see what was said.
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:30 PM
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You should. The dialog is beautiful.
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Old 03-29-2020, 05:19 AM
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Dunno, the stupid Rasta wig, two guys casually showing their guns on the street, the whole thing looks staged to me.
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Old 03-29-2020, 06:30 AM
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Looks like a "let's see who's stupider" contest to me.
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:46 PM
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You nailed it!

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Looks like a "let's see who's stupider" contest to me.
Dumb and Dumber!
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:57 PM
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You show me a gun and I'm not going to be pointing a holstered gun at you! You'll probably have a few holes already in you. Never threaten lethal force unless you are willing to use it! I am not saying that you "have" to use it. But you better be willing to! Showing a holstered firearm is pointless stupidity!
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:36 PM
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Surprised he didn't have a few holes in him after that stupid tough guy gesture.
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Old 04-09-2020, 08:35 AM
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Guy in the car was acting like an ahole. Rasta man was being ignorant at first then idiotic by flashing his gun. Both are lucky no one was shot.
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Old 04-09-2020, 08:37 AM
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And something tells me that tough guy in the car wouldn't be acting that way if he didn't have a gun with him.
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Old 04-09-2020, 08:49 AM
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Dunno, the stupid Rasta wig, two guys casually showing their guns on the street, the whole thing looks staged to me.
Ditto. I will even posit a theory: The roofing company had something to do with it as an advertising stunt.
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Old 04-09-2020, 01:54 PM
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It's pretty well done if it's staged. I'll roll with it's being legit unless something very compelling suggests otherwise.

And the foul language makes my doubt the roofing company set this up.
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Old 04-09-2020, 02:11 PM
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I don't think it was staged either. The idea that an armed society is a polite society has been replaced by just a bunch of dumb a$$es
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Old 04-09-2020, 06:02 PM
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And the foul language makes my doubt the roofing company set this up.
OK. Very good point. Though I still think it was staged.
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Old 04-09-2020, 06:44 PM
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Could be. If so, props to them. It's good stuff.
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Old 04-10-2020, 06:33 AM
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OK. Very good point. Though I still think it was staged.


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Could be. If so, props to them. It's good stuff.


So do I, the Rasta wig is just too stupid and grotesque to be credible. Also you almost never see the guy’s face, nobody can be that bad at filming unless you do it on purpose.
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Old 04-21-2020, 07:54 PM
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Totally staged. Almost a skit.


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Old 04-21-2020, 08:44 PM
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Reminds me of the time (this actually did happen) that I was getting some money at an ATM after I had a few too many pops. My car was blocking the lane so the next car couldn't get past me. Car #2 was honking his horn and yelling at the innocent woman: "Move your car your fat bitch."

I couldn't let him get away with that so I yelled back: "Who you calling a fat bitch a'hole?" His reply was "I ought to shoot you." Of course I replied go ahead; then he told me he had a gun - my reply was "who doesn't have a gun this day and age?" Turning to his friend in the car, he said: "Give me my gun; and "I bet mine's bigger than yours. I may have had a few rum and cokes but I was in for a penny, in for a pound. Now this is around 1983, near Cleveland. I removed the S&W Model 39-1 loaded with Speer Lawman 110 gr. JHP from the holster, snicked the safety off, and said: "Your's may be bigger then mine; that remains to be seen; but mine is pointed at your chest...."

Um he did not have a gun; his friend, in the car did not have a gun and exited the car stage right and kept on going...dude was closer to death that night than he probably ever realized it. Anything remotely resembling a firearm in his hands rising up to point at me I would have shot, more than once. I belonged to the Cuyahoga County Bullseye League back then; to 25 yards I was pretty darn accurate...

Today I can look back at it and admit to you all that I am damn lucky I didn't shoot him; had I - well I'd be starting my 35th year in the Ohio State Prison...
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Old 04-23-2020, 09:52 AM
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All of us already know to deescalate the situation, so acting like a tough guy isn't needed. Secondly no one should know you have a firearm if at all possible, again all of us know. The moment you NEED your firearm, the only thing they should see is the multiple muzzle flashes as you empty your magazine into their torso.

I hope to never draw my sidearm on a civilian in public, that's my dream. But if it's a no way out situation, my military training will become apparent to the criminal immediately. I think this looks staged, but if not they are lucky no one was killed.
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Old 04-25-2020, 03:28 PM
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Such language! I doubt those guys ever made it through "force de-escalation training" or even a good anger management counselling session.

Roofer-dude seemed okay with the whole thing, so he was probably on the clock and being paid by the hour. A little light entertainment to make the day go by.
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Old 04-25-2020, 05:01 PM
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SFC Rick ----------- I totally agree that acting the tough guy is not a good idea. People get unnecessarily hurt, or killed, when one dude tries to Out-Macho the other guy.

Ego contests are stupid. And drunken ones are even worse.

However, I disagree on having a SET POLICY of concealing until the last possible second, then SURPRISE! Bang bang bang. That's not good.

Many members of this board have successfully ended bad situations with a show of force. Including myself.

Yes --------- brandishing.

These brandishing events out-numbering actual shootings by at least 100 to one, by the stories I've read here.

Frightening someone off is a valuable tool in your box. Don't discard it outright, ahead of time.

It's good to keep your options open when dealing with varying & fluid situations.
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Old 04-25-2020, 07:12 PM
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I have run off two would be perpetrators by displaying a gun.

It gave them a whole new reason to be somewhere else. Everybody went home with no shots fired. A pretty good outcome in my book. Situational awareness is what it is all about.
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