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Old 01-22-2020, 12:04 PM
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Virginia rally resulted in this so far.

https://wset.com/news/at-the-capitol...n-rights-rally
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:06 PM
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Did anyone really think the rally no matter the number of attendees would change their minds? All it did was further embolden the left to keep poking us.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:11 PM
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Did anyone really think the rally no matter the number of attendees would change their minds? All it did was further embolden the left to keep poking us.
. Agreed. But you can only poke the bear so much until it wakes up from hibernation!
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:18 PM
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:20 PM
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The only hope of stopping red flag laws is the Supreme Court.
LOL, no. No way Roberts doesn't side with the liberals on RFL.
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Old 01-22-2020, 01:01 PM
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Did anyone really think the rally no matter the number of attendees would change their minds? All it did was further embolden the left to keep poking us.
Monday was the first time the left saw a major organized pro gun protest against their cause. They thought it would be like Connecticut and California where guys lined up to register their guns. Virginians don't give in that easily. The left won't admit it, but that rally is going to set an example for other states that are currently being attacked. They now know there is truly opposition, and our side can claim we tried peaceful protest in the event that violence occurs from forced confiscation after unconstitutional laws are rammed through.
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Old 01-22-2020, 01:07 PM
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Maybe it would work better if thousands of people showed up in front of the governors or legislators houses without the presence of fencing or organized crowd control. No violence just a flash mob of concerned citizens expressing their concerns.
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Old 01-22-2020, 02:32 PM
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Maybe it would work better if thousands of people showed up in front of the governors or legislators houses without the presence of fencing or organized crowd control. No violence just a flash mob of concerned citizens expressing their concerns.
So another peaceful rally in some town that perhaps has local ordinances against loitering and making too much noise. Yeah, that'll really show them who's boss.
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Old 01-22-2020, 02:42 PM
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Maybe it would work better if thousands of people showed up in front of the governors or legislators houses without the presence of fencing or organized crowd control. No violence just a flash mob of concerned citizens expressing their concerns.
So another peaceful rally in some town that perhaps has local ordinances against loitering and making too much noise. Yeah, that'll really show them who's boss.
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Old 01-22-2020, 02:45 PM
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Monday was the first time the left saw a major organized pro gun protest against their cause. They thought it would be like Connecticut and California where guys lined up to register their guns. Virginians don't give in that easily. The left won't admit it, but that rally is going to set an example for other states that are currently being attacked. They now know there is truly position, and our side can claim we tried peaceful protest in the event that violence occurs from forced confiscation after unconstitutional laws are rammed through.
I'm sure there were many residents of the states you identified that did comply with new gun laws, however I can assure you that there were NO LINES. I was at a range on the central coast of California. A public range and witnessed a fellow with an AR and 100 round drum magazine and he made no effort at all to hide it.
California gun owners have been working around gun laws for decades. The ink had barely dried on a ban of rifles with certain characteristics, pistol grips flash suppressors etc. Rifles appeared that were based on the AR platform but lacking a pistol grip stock. I support my brothers in Virginia but the fight doesn't end with the passage of a couple laws.
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Old 01-22-2020, 02:51 PM
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Old 01-22-2020, 04:46 PM
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It's is now time to start threatening politicians directly.
Not with violence, but with our political power.

"Pass this stupid law and we will vote you OUT next election".

It's a valid threat now that they have seen unity from us.
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Old 01-22-2020, 05:12 PM
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This is a good plan.

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It's is now time to start threatening politicians directly.
Not with violence, but with our political power.

"Pass this stupid law and we will vote you OUT next election".

It's a valid threat now that they have seen unity from us.
We have a number of Democrats here in the Commonwealth that are seeing the light.
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Old 01-22-2020, 05:12 PM
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Old 01-22-2020, 05:53 PM
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It's is now time to start threatening politicians directly.
Not with violence, but with our political power.

"Pass this stupid law and we will vote you OUT next election".

It's a valid threat now that they have seen unity from us.
I agree, but they won't heed the warning until they see some democrats unassing seats in the legislature.

22,000 is a good number considering how much of the state is rural. The Oakland A's can get 40,000 people to pay money on a Tuesday at 1pm to watch them play a child's game, but Californians can't even get half that for a similar demonstration in Sacramento.

I still hold out hope that there are some JFK democrats in Virginia and not as many socialist democrats like Hitler.
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Old 01-22-2020, 06:12 PM
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It's is now time to start threatening politicians directly.
Not with violence, but with our political power.

"Pass this stupid law and we will vote you OUT next election".

It's a valid threat now that they have seen unity from us.
We have a number of Democrats here in the Commonwealth that are seeing the light.
This! This is what it really takes to make a difference. TAKE their votes to our side!
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Old 01-22-2020, 08:32 PM
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I'm sure there were many residents of the states you identified that did comply with new gun laws, however I can assure you that there were NO LINES. I was at a range on the central coast of California. A public range and witnessed a fellow with an AR and 100 round drum magazine and he made no effort at all to hide it.
California gun owners have been working around gun laws for decades. The ink had barely dried on a ban of rifles with certain characteristics, pistol grips flash suppressors etc. Rifles appeared that were based on the AR platform but lacking a pistol grip stock. I support my brothers in Virginia but the fight doesn't end with the passage of a couple laws.
That's good to hear. There's also an untold amount of Europeans sitting on weaponry that has been stockpiled since WW2.
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Old 01-22-2020, 09:22 PM
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An interesting thing happened at the rally the other day.

I met and talked to a lot of people. I was a little bit disappointed that my sign did not show up in any media display, but I got over it. There were plenty of good signs there.

But while I was talking to some people from out of state. I noticed one of the other VCDL people that I know was talking to some fellow Americans of apparent African descent. Well as it turns out they were from BLM. Anyway, long story short is that they were with us on second amendment rights. No animosity amongst any of us. And it really dawned on me that this is our salvation. That we all come together regardless of our background and find that we have more things to bind us than we have to divide us. This is the way forward for freedom loving Americans.

The people that we oppose like nothing better than to pit us all against each other. We can and we will come together in the end. I am convinced of it. We just all have to realize where the real evil is really coming from.

I have been trying to convince the people at the rifle club of this. Whenever I go to shoot or to the meetings. Everybody there pretty much looks like me. This can only last for so long. To date I have only received tepid responses to my overtures. But we will see going forward. No apologies for the rant.
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Old 01-23-2020, 01:38 AM
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If the Left has the balls to resist, we sure as hell better show that we have them as well. That is what Jan. 20th was about...having the balls to resist.
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Old 01-23-2020, 06:33 AM
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I met and talked to a lot of people. I was a little bit disappointed that my sign did not show up in any media display, but I got over it. There were plenty of good signs there.

But while I was talking to some people from out of state. I noticed one of the other VCDL people that I know was talking to some fellow Americans of apparent African descent. Well as it turns out they were from BLM. Anyway, long story short is that they were with us on second amendment rights. No animosity amongst any of us. And it really dawned on me that this is our salvation. That we all come together regardless of our background and find that we have more things to bind us than we have to divide us. This is the way forward for freedom loving Americans.

The people that we oppose like nothing better than to pit us all against each other. We can and we will come together in the end. I am convinced of it. We just all have to realize where the real evil is really coming from.

I have been trying to convince the people at the rifle club of this. Whenever I go to shoot or to the meetings. Everybody there pretty much looks like me. This can only last for so long. To date I have only received tepid responses to my overtures. But we will see going forward. No apologies for the rant.
The problem with BLM is that the radicals got a hold of the messaging and started with the cop-hate stuff, and worse death to pigs stuff...But this is all the Lefty's have, that is, to create hate (and envy) among various-Groups (as you allude to). It is the only thing essentially which keeps Lefty in office.

If they would stop the cop-hate stuff, I think it would be much better for them all around as an organization.
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Old 01-23-2020, 06:43 AM
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Here’s a link to what now in a federal court for fighting RF in a NJ case.

https://nj2as.org/nj2as-lawsuit-upda...ed+Flag+Update
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Old 01-23-2020, 10:13 AM
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I'm sure there were many residents of the states you identified that did comply with new gun laws, however I can assure you that there were NO LINES. I was at a range on the central coast of California. A public range and witnessed a fellow with an AR and 100 round drum magazine and he made no effort at all to hide it.
California gun owners have been working around gun laws for decades. The ink had barely dried on a ban of rifles with certain characteristics, pistol grips flash suppressors etc. Rifles appeared that were based on the AR platform but lacking a pistol grip stock. I support my brothers in Virginia but the fight doesn't end with the passage of a couple laws.

Amen.

Put up or shut up.

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Old 01-23-2020, 11:07 AM
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I met and talked to a lot of people. I was a little bit disappointed that my sign did not show up in any media display, but I got over it. There were plenty of good signs there.

But while I was talking to some people from out of state. I noticed one of the other VCDL people that I know was talking to some fellow Americans of apparent African descent. Well as it turns out they were from BLM. Anyway, long story short is that they were with us on second amendment rights. No animosity amongst any of us. And it really dawned on me that this is our salvation. That we all come together regardless of our background and find that we have more things to bind us than we have to divide us. This is the way forward for freedom loving Americans.

The people that we oppose like nothing better than to pit us all against each other. We can and we will come together in the end. I am convinced of it. We just all have to realize where the real evil is really coming from.

I have been trying to convince the people at the rifle club of this. Whenever I go to shoot or to the meetings. Everybody there pretty much looks like me. This can only last for so long. To date I have only received tepid responses to my overtures. But we will see going forward. No apologies for the rant.
Interesting how "white supremacists" were considered an unwelcome addition to the protest and some preferred they not participate but BLM, which supports murdering cops is a group "we can all come together with" and with no animosity.
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HT77 has made a curious observation. I'd be interested in hearing thoughts on that myself.
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Old 01-23-2020, 12:07 PM
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This! This is what it really takes to make a difference. TAKE their votes to our side!
I don't disagree but if some dems are seeing the light, why did every one of them vote to approve the RF law?
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