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Old 05-04-2020, 01:32 PM
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Lead bullet use in 1911 not throated

Hi,
I have a 1918 vintage Colt that is not quite original in all respects but I don't want add any further modifications to it, I am satisfied with it the way it is. It is not throated.

It feeds hard ball ammo ok, but I want to start using lead bullets when I reload to try and save a little money, and somewhat lighter loads to take it easy on the pistol. I pulled the firing pin and extractor to check feeding of reloads using 200 grain SWC bullets (which feed fine in another pistol) and while it seems to feed ok into the chamber, there winds up being a little ding on the nose of the bullet, see pic attached. It isn't much of a ding. There is also a slight lead mark on the frame feed ramp, nothing on the barrel ramp that I can see. I can't get even a halfway decent picture of the mark on the ramp to show you.

Our range is closed right now so I cannot check accuracy impact of this ding, but is this a significant issue for accuracy? This is for informal target shooting and plinking at cans and such 'competing' with friends. Is there a bullet other than SWC that would not create this issue, a round nose?

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Bob
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:46 PM
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Hi, don't worry. That "ding" you see will not affect accuracy. What affects accuracy is mainly the base of a bullet, rarely the nose and surely not with so little deformation. More important is the diameter of the lead bullet. In my 1916 colt you must have not less than .452.

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Old 05-04-2020, 02:17 PM
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Right, that little flat on the SWC nose will not affect accuracy, certainly not in an Army surplus pistol. If it bothers you, everybody makes a 230 grain cast roundnose and Gallant makes a 200 grain coated lead roundnose. Which I will buy when they get caught up.
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Old 05-05-2020, 10:25 AM
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Thanks guys for the info, I am really looking forward to trying this out!
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Old 05-05-2020, 11:25 AM
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About lead bullets

Hi, here some picture of a very old, but always valid, article of Wayne Blackwell ;"How defects in cast bullets affect accuracy". Handloader & Rifle Magazine
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Old 05-05-2020, 11:26 AM
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Just remember your old 1911 may or may not feed semi-wadcutters like those reliably. Some will, some won't. The magazines you use may also affect functioning. Magazines with parallel feed lips (as opposed to tapered ones like on a GI mag) are specifically called wadcutter mags for a reason.
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Old 05-06-2020, 04:20 AM
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For bullseye shooting I often use my own reloaded 200 grs SWC bullets on my WILSON COMBAT 1911, I love the neat round punches on paper targets. In many years I've never had any issues-
Since you talk about accuracy, USGI M1911s are not among the most accurate pistols.
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Old 05-19-2020, 02:24 PM
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I love 200 grain LSWC especially in my Gold Cup but my Grandpa's 1911 (1918 production) prefers a 230 grain Lead Round Nose.
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Old 06-09-2020, 08:12 PM
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I am loading Missouri Bullet Company's 200g coated bullet, round nose flat point. 5.6g of green dot. try it and i think you'll like it.

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