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Old 07-02-2020, 04:54 PM
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VCDL alert in Virginia

Got this email from VCDL today:

SPREAD THIS FAR AND WIDE! ALL VIRGINIA GUN OWNERS NEED TO DO THIS

Anti-self-defense Delegate Mark Levine's HB961, which banned "assault weapons", suppressors, and magazines that hold over 10 rounds, was continued to 2021 back in February. But Governor Northam recently said he wants to revive it and has said he will convene a special session of the General Assembly in August.

Besides HB961, these other infringements could also be voted on in August:
• repeal reciprocity with 25 states
• shutdown indoor shooting ranges
• restrict outdoor shooting ranges
• no open carry in vehicles
• proof of training to purchase a firearm
• 10% tax on guns and ammunition
• conviction for various misdemeanors or a "hate crime" will take away gun rights
• illegal to have guns in state or local government buildings
• illegal to carry in Capitol Square or in the General Assembly
• gun stores cannot employ anyone who is prohibited from owning firearms - even a janitor
• and more

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We need to have everyone contact their legislator using the link below to send a prewritten, but editable message to their legislators about opposing any gun control in the Special Session. I encourage you to customize the message, which will automatically go to your particular legislators based on your home address:

https://oneclickpolitics.global.ssl..../oneclick/9150

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Old 07-02-2020, 05:26 PM
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I think it's time for Virginian's to recall their governor and a bunch of their legislators.
And let's use this as an example. VOTE!

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Old 07-02-2020, 06:53 PM
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Why the hell did good Virginians allow these idiots to take over?! Were you guys sleeping or something?! And before you tell me about the NOVA counties and how the carpetbaggers have swept in there from New York, there is still the rest of the great state of Virginia! Sleeping?
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Old 07-02-2020, 06:57 PM
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At some point you'll need to hang-the-bastards and move along: they simply don't respect the citizens and BOR at all.
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:17 PM
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Why the hell did good Virginians allow these idiots to take over?! Were you guys sleeping or something?! And before you tell me about the NOVA counties and how the carpetbaggers have swept in there from New York, there is still the rest of the great state of Virginia! Sleeping?
I grow weary of explaining it and begging people to vote, but it seems that the republican candidates are never perfect enough to deserve the vote. So they stay home. We could easily defeat them and turn the state red again if every single one would vote. Maybe this time things will be horrible enough that they can at least hold their nose and do it.
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Old 07-03-2020, 05:38 AM
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Just part of the plan, defund cops, lock-up cops who offend Felons, disarm good American citizens, ALL results in transferring huge amounts of power from the Good American's who support the Constitution, to the Marxist-Mob who does not. Then the Marxist-Mob is better able to be the intimidation-army of the Lefties...

And we are on our own, the Supreme Court has refused recently to rule on 10 in-flight 2A lawsuits against Lefty Administrations throughout the country.

I joined and donated to the VCDL earlier this year even though I live in NJ. You are fighting a great fight and wanted to do what little I can to help.

This all needs to come to a head, better now then later before the country goes deeper into the Abyss.
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Old 07-03-2020, 05:53 AM
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Why the hell did good Virginians allow these idiots to take over?! Were you guys sleeping or something?! And before you tell me about the NOVA counties and how the carpetbaggers have swept in there from New York, there is still the rest of the great state of Virginia! Sleeping?
Turnout in western part of State at last election was almost nil, I heard 10%. People stayed home for what ever reason, I hope and pray it does not happen again. They screwed all of us.

I also think August special session to pass this crap is because dems are worried about next election.

I will tell you that we are very active, my wife and I were state delegates at last VA State convention and there are way too many RHINO's in Republican party, they have contempt for conservatives.

We know very outspoken 2A local politician who tried to get elected to State level but VA Republican party and his own County Party would not support, his area is now held by democrat.

In my county of VA the a-holes in the party put a big anti-2A candidate on the ballot AS A REPUBLICAN during last election. He got hammered, seat now held by Bloomberg liberal. I laid into local Party person why they did this and he just gave bull****.

Everyone needs to do their part at the grassroots level to get this changed - turnout will be key.
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Old 07-03-2020, 02:57 PM
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Its not just the presidential election we need to be concerned about. We may lose that office. Congress and state legislators offices city council and county/ parish offices are up for grabs.
Come on get out the VOTE! after that if we succeed I hope we have learned something from the democrats. What is that lesson? Well Its a multiple part lesson. Gather up, team up, become one undeniable force under one undeniable name. Whether it is NRA or GOA or who knows, the republican party got beat by not standing united. Are we headed the same way? The second lesson? VOTE! AND NEVER STOP VOTING. Your rights depend on this. Organize and Vote and never stop being organized and never stop VOTING!

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Old 07-03-2020, 03:25 PM
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All those people back East who laughed at California aren't laughing now that the rot has come to their own state.

But the terrible truth is, its been happening to us so long out here that we're actually used to it. Everyone in California talks freedom, but no one's willing anymore to do anything to get it. All we do out here is talk about moving out of state. The folks in Virginia have had it all thrust upon them at once, so maybe there's enough indignation left that they get something positive accomplished.
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:04 AM
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Unfortunately this will pass, maybe not in the special session but in 2021.
Deeds and Peterson are not against an AWB on principle but only how to implement one.
The democrats have removed all GOP from the Virginia Crime Commision and appointed the biggest anti gun lobbyist in Va, Lori Haas, to the VCC. The VCC will now rubber stamp all gun control giving Deeds and Peterson all the cover they need.
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:22 AM
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Why the hell did good Virginians allow these idiots to take over?! Were you guys sleeping or something?! And before you tell me about the NOVA counties and how the carpetbaggers have swept in there from New York, there is still the rest of the great state of Virginia! Sleeping?

We didn't. Va is lost in large part because of W Bush exploding the Fed Gov. NOVA is a cancer that has destroyed this state.
Add in a bunch of latino's from country's that are socialist, H1B visa's that don't like guns, and there you have it.

Also, the RPV is the very definition of useless cucks and don't actually want to win.

Edit: There really is a lot of blame to go around. Va non democrat voters suffer from a case of Muh candidate ain't pure syndrome.
Also an Obama apointed judge ruled that current districts were drawn by racism and got a Democrat Cali professor to redraw the districts to favor the house dems by +5. The RPV didn't run candidates in something like 20 or 30 races.
Then ultimately, Trump hate delivered Va 10 years earlier than expected. Va Democrats, RINO's and country club GOP hate Trump.
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Old 07-06-2020, 11:31 AM
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....banned "assault weapons", suppressors, and magazines that hold over 10 rounds....
God save Virginia
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:06 AM
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Also an Obama apointed judge ruled that current districts were drawn by racism and got a Democrat Cali professor to redraw the districts to favor the house dems by +5. The RPV didn't run candidates in something like 20 or 30 races.
You are correct, but the VA GOP made a huge tactical error that allowed this. When the GOP held both houses they changed the districts to significantly increase GOP chances. However, they overreached by a mile, the GOP was told by high level “known” consultants that they were setting themselves up for disaster.

The State GOP didn't listen. If they would have left districts generally intact, they would have kept slight majority for years to come and survive district challenges.

The state GOP are incompetent. Again, I saw first hand the BS as state delegate and know to much antidotal info to trust our party in VA again.

I now only contribute to candidates, NEVER to a party.

PS, you are right about RHINO’S and country club republicans and sadly they are our party leaders.
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:21 AM
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Give’em He// Virginia....

Of the proposed laundry list which is ridiculous in its entirety.

But, Close indoor Ranges???
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:46 AM
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I grow weary of explaining it and begging people to vote, but it seems that the republican candidates are never perfect enough to deserve the vote. So they stay home.
Bingo. This is the problem across the board
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:47 AM
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Give’em He// Virginia....

Of the proposed laundry list which is ridiculous in its entirety.

But, Close indoor Ranges???
Yes, I didn't understand that one either. What's the problem with indoor ranges?
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:57 AM
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Yes, I didn't understand that one either. What's the problem with indoor ranges?
No clue Jamie.

The other problem I have is when the liberals write and propose this anti gun crap, they have 8-10 things at once. I get the throw everything and see what sticks, but they usually end up with multiples of new anti gun bs.

But, when ANY pro 2A case is brought, it is a single issue fight. The math doesn’t work.
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Old 07-07-2020, 10:42 AM
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OK, I'm totally not getting the point of this.

VA law allows people to ban themselves from gun purchases.

Sooooo.....if you put yourself on a state list to prohibit yourself from buying a gun--and you can reverse your self-ban at any time--how is that any different from you just not buying a gun? This has to be the most retarded legal goofiness I have ever seen. Any politician who voted for this should be voted out of office.
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Old 07-07-2020, 11:52 AM
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Just part of the plan, defund cops, lock-up cops who offend Felons, disarm good American citizens, ALL results in transferring huge amounts of power from the Good American's who support the Constitution, to the Marxist-Mob who does not. Then the Marxist-Mob is better able to be the intimidation-army of the Lefties...

And we are on our own, the Supreme Court has refused recently to rule on 10 in-flight 2A lawsuits against Lefty Administrations throughout the country.

I joined and donated to the VCDL earlier this year even though I live in NJ. You are fighting a great fight and wanted to do what little I can to help.

This all needs to come to a head, better now then later before the country goes deeper into the Abyss.
You are absolutely right. And this is all over the country. Many of the groups behind the war against America we have never heard of. But they have been organizing and planning for years...decades. The Defund the Police movement is made up of the same anti-Second Amendment people. They are all Marxists. Here is an example of an email I received just the other day.

"Join Sunrise Movement, Mijente, Dream Defenders, Critical Resistance, AfroSocialists and Socialists of Color Caucus, and Southerners on New Ground, as we deepen our understanding of abolition and learn how to turn the mandate to “Defund the Police” into tangible action in our communities!

By the end of this 4-day crash course, you will:

Understand what exactly the demand “Defund the Police” means
Envision what a world without police could look like
Get ready to take action to defund police in your community
The training will run July 13th-16th, Mon-Thurs, with multiple time slot options. You can select your preferred time slot below."

These people are organized, financed, mobilized, and supported by George Soros and the Marxist Mafia in Silicone Valley and Hollywood. They are using violence and will continue to do so until they are stopped. But the politicians are paralyzed with fear and they have stopped the police from enforcing the law. These same politicians have released tens of thousands of criminals... rapists, pedophiles, murderers, violent robbers...onto the streets.

The war against America will not be stopped with ballots. It is going to take bullets. That's why they call it war. It is time for all of us to form five person defense teams, that can be quickly linked into 25 per teams, and into 200 person teams. We must be willing and able to take the streets back in the defense of our lives, our families, and our country.
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Old 07-07-2020, 06:54 PM
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Why the hell did good Virginians allow these idiots to take over?! Were you guys sleeping or something?! And before you tell me about the NOVA counties and how the carpetbaggers have swept in there from New York, there is still the rest of the great state of Virginia! Sleeping?
When you take over the major population centers in a state this happens. The states need an electoral college and is the reason it's not yet taken hold nationally and why the Left desperately despises the Electoral College.
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Old 07-07-2020, 07:08 PM
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Yes, I didn't understand that one either. What's the problem with indoor ranges?
Wasn’t there something they tried to pass last year against “tactical training that could be used to overthrow the government”? Or to that effect? The closing of ranges, both indoor and outdoor, in their warped minds would keep people from conducting that “tactical” training.
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Old 07-07-2020, 07:10 PM
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Wasn’t there something they tried to pass last year against “tactical training that could be used to overthrow the government”? Or to that effect? The closing of ranges, both indoor and outdoor, in their warped minds would keep people from conducting that “tactical” training.
I do not recall any of that, I wouldn't doubt it though.

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Old 07-08-2020, 02:02 AM
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To continue to discuss this is pointless. You are wasting time...precious time...trying to use your own values to make sense of what the Left is doing. They have declared war on America. What about that do you not understand? They are attacking from all sides and it is pointless...and gutless...to continue to have reasoned discussions about the destruction of your own culture and country. Either you stand up, organize, and engage them in physical conflict...or you surrender and bend over.
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Old 07-08-2020, 06:55 AM
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To continue to discuss this is pointless. You are wasting time...precious time...trying to use your own values to make sense of what the Left is doing. They have declared war on America. What about that do you not understand? They are attacking from all sides and it is pointless...and gutless...to continue to have reasoned discussions about the destruction of your own culture and country. Either you stand up, organize, and engage them in physical conflict...or you surrender and bend over.
OK, you start.

I shall now wait for great reasons why you can't do this.

Copied this from a post of mine in a different thread, in response to this same topic you brought up there:
1. Looking at this from the cui bono (who benefits?) angle, it reminds me of a car dealership. If they are pushing leases, then you can be sure it is good for them, and therefore bad for you.

Same with the extreme provocation from the Left. The leaders could not care less if some of their LARPers or day-laborers get popped. They will have attained their objective. Because in the court of public opinion, the side that shoots first loses. It would be hyped as the slaughter of heroic freedom fighters, a giant propaganda win. Right before the single most important election in world history.

Context matters. Timing matters.
(End of copy.)

So you are either tone-deaf to the consequences of what you propose, or you are deliberately seeking to stir up trouble for the patriot side. It really has to be one or the other.

Going into the election, we need the tide of public opinion to be overwhelmingly on our side. The Left's true agenda is being revealed more and more*, and the good, normal, low-information voting citizens are going to be sick of their ideas and actions. Let us not interrupt the enemy while he destroys himself.


* SD Governor Noem just spoke about the statue-topplers in this article, stopping just short of the "M" word in describing their politics.
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Old 07-08-2020, 08:41 AM
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