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Old 08-22-2019, 01:44 PM
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Are we going to be seeing another buying panic?

With all of the drum beating that has been going on of late. When Congress comes back from recess next month. I am pretty sure they will all be trying to outdo each other as far as seeing who can come up with the most repressive legislation they.

I am sure that the rhetoric, grand standing, vitriol, and outright lying will be all in evidence. Di Fi is no doubt dusting off her wish list, and Chuckie is doubling his dosage of steroids.

I am wondering if this will trigger off another buying spree? Not that I would have any sympathy for any one that is not prepared at this point. But it will be interesting to see. I went down to Sportsman's warehouse the other day for something. And it was pretty much business as usual. Everything was pretty well stocked. The one exception being that they were almost out of primers. I thought that this was interesting as during the last couple of panics, primers were the first thing to go.

What say the omniscient ones of the forum?
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Old 08-22-2019, 01:56 PM
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I learned my lesson after the last panic. Been stocking up a little at a time. I set a ammo/reloading budget every month.

I have 4 5 gallon buckets of wheel weights to cast if things get really bad.

To answer your question yes I do think there will be another panic so the wise are stocking up now.

Not to hijack your thread but I still remember how cheaper than dirt was gouging everyone on their ammo prices. I have not and will not ever buy from them again. Spare me the comments about free market and all that crap. What they did was wrong along with the guys would would buy all the 22 ammo from walmart then put it on armslist for twice the price.
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Old 08-22-2019, 02:00 PM
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I have no sympathy for anyone who doesn’t maintain a decent stock at all times, especially during lulls between the moronic panic buying hysterias.
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Old 08-22-2019, 02:26 PM
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Nope, because Mitch, Wayne, and POTUS are playing Chess not Checker's, they are going to only close some token UBC loopholes. They are moving the conversation to focus on crazy's, video games, SM, etc., where it belong's (not gun's). As long as republican's are in power, we will have our AR's, I believe (nothing is 100% certain).

As far as ammo, guess how much I have given I have a plan-ahead type personality and we have been living with the threat of an internet ammo ban/registration in NJ for a few years now? :-)
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Old 08-22-2019, 02:30 PM
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Yes there will be another panic. I venture to say that buying is already picking up because the election talk is increasing. Combine an up coming electing with the beating of the drum and the panic will be on.

I just really got into shooting right before the coward at sandy hook. I learned my lesson and took it to heart. I built my own stock before the last presidential election and have maintained it. I've even created a spreadsheet to keep track of various things. I do have some stocks that have done well in the last few years, thinking of cashing that out and investing in some M855, (especially with the rebate federal is offering) and other items for when the next panic starts. It's not if, but when the next panic starts.
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Old 08-22-2019, 02:39 PM
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Can't hurt to be prepared. For me been stocking up as others have mentioned. Even though I'm buying a little more in bulk, I'm going to shoot it in any event so I don't consider it an over-expense. The only thing different is I'm a bit more hesitant now to sell any more firearms (what can I say? I'm a self avowed stinkin' capitalist). The only pattern/habit changed at this time is I reversed course and bought a moderate supply of .40 cal rounds just to cover myself on calibers owned. Other than that, just going to watch and see what turns up if anything.
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Old 08-22-2019, 03:00 PM
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I have little doubt that weíll see a panic buy sometime. Whether its this fall or at a later date, who knows. I donít need another gun, and I have a pretty decent ammo supply. The only thing Iím a little short on at the moment is bullets and primers. That can be remedied in short order if thereís any signs that a panic is beginning.
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Old 08-22-2019, 03:46 PM
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If there is panic buying and the gun shop shelves go empty... I plan to thin down the herd a bid and get better pricing on some pieces that have been sitting in my safe for years untouched.

I hate to do that, but from a practical point of view, I am into my 60's and its time for me to downsize.
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Old 08-22-2019, 04:51 PM
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There was a mild buying panic right before the worst parts of WA's I-1639 took effect in July. Since then the gun shops have all been dead as a dodo as nobody wants to go through the red tape now involved in buying a semi-auto. However if new laws are proposed I suspect many people may flock to the gun shops again anyway.
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Old 08-22-2019, 05:14 PM
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Like many of you I've got really all that I need in the firearms category. I'd always like more ammo and for me that is somewhere id like to focus my spending habits. However for the price of a decent AR, I'm tempted to get one even though I don't like the platform and several mags just as a back up. I don't think they can ban the rifle without grandfathering in already purchased examples and i guess they can ban "high capacity" magazines but honestly at this point between the rifles and pistols (hell even Keltec shotguns apply), it is a wasted effort. I just want enough ammo to cover my shooting bases and be left alone for the most part.

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Old 08-22-2019, 05:23 PM
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Its not a matter of "IF" its "when".
Right before the election for sure, count on it.
Besides ammo, you wont be able to find an AR part to save your butt.
This is the time that all of those people that poo poo the idea of reloading because "ammo is so cheap" choke on their words. Some learn, some don't. Buckle up boys! Its gonna be a nasty ride for sure, but my stock of primers wont care!!
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Old 08-22-2019, 05:45 PM
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What do you think will happen first a world-wide economic recession or a firearms panic buy? Might be an interesting extension of this conversation as well, seeing how every person posting is pretty certain of a panic within the next year to year and half!

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Old 08-22-2019, 05:46 PM
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I have no sympathy for anyone who doesnít maintain a decent stock at all times, especially during lulls between the moronic panic buying hysterias.



And then the media reports some idiot was busted with hundreds of rounds of ammunition.

Makes me wonder what they would say about my stash.

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Old 08-22-2019, 05:50 PM
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I think that things will be just fine. There will be a few "chicken little" that do panic, and hit the forums with their tales of doom, but for the most part......normal, normal.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:18 PM
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I sure hope so. I've at least three, maybe four handguns and a boat load of hi-cap mags that I don't use. One AR needs to go too.

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What do you think will happen first a world-wide economic recession or a firearms panic buy? Might be an interesting extension of this conversation as well, seeing how every person posting is pretty certain of a panic within the next year to year and half!
Recession. World economy is not doing well already. Current administration policies have been destabilizing, tariffs, trade wars being an example. The US itself is not doing too bad in terms of employment and consumer confidence but the growth is not what we wanted, the stock market adjustment is a matter of time, and what's happening with bonds is suggesting a possibility of deflation. On the other hand, WH inhabitants are viewed as relatively safe to 2A, which is bad for gun business. Seeing how Dems don't have a strong candidate to beat Trump, it seems that 2020 will see the continuation of current theme, with recession being more likely of the two.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:19 PM
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There was a mild buying panic right before the worst parts of WA's I-1639 took effect in July. Since then the gun shops have all been dead as a dodo as nobody wants to go through the red tape now involved in buying a semi-auto. However if new laws are proposed I suspect many people may flock to the gun shops again anyway.
And those that did "panic buy" may have been the better for it, seeing how the new law is in fact draconian.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:50 PM
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I’m sure the panic buy is on. People are scared of losing out. More gun permits are being applied for, semi auto rifles are being sold plus ammo. Every time they mention about a new gun ban the sales go up on everything gun related.

I believe after Trump gets re elected in the spring of 2020 some sort of a gun bill will happen. Most of the american people want it.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:56 PM
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There was a mild buying panic right before the worst parts of WA's I-1639 took effect in July. Since then the gun shops have all been dead as a dodo as nobody wants to go through the red tape now involved in buying a semi-auto. However if new laws are proposed I suspect many people may flock to the gun shops again anyway.
I bought semi auto sporting hunting rifles. There being factored in as assault rifles too.(Saigas). I had to re register anything thatís semi auto with a flash hider, detachable mags, hi cap mags here a few years back. Iím on the fence wether to wait for the buy back or trade them in at the LGS. One buy back we had was $50 worth of groceries?
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Old 08-22-2019, 07:04 PM
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I doubt it.

If they pass the red flag law (which is an end-run around the 2nd, 4th, AND 5th amendments), it will be time to form sides and square off.

Blue states & municipalities started it with their de facto nullifications of federal immigration and marijuana laws. This will be the straw that breaks the red state camels' backs. Nullify or else.

There are no more compromises left to make.
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Old 08-22-2019, 07:06 PM
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I could definitely see it happening. I don’t have an AR-15, and don’t particularly need/want one. But I can see myself picking one up very soon, with the hope that it would be grandfathered in if restrictions eventually came. Who know?
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Old 08-22-2019, 08:21 PM
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Iím sure the panic buy is on. People are scared of losing out. More gun permits are being applied for, semi auto rifles are being sold plus ammo. Every time they mention about a new gun ban the sales go up on everything gun related.

I believe after Trump gets re elected in the spring of 2020 some sort of a gun bill will happen. Most of the american people want it.

Maybe. But you understand that "most of the American people" means
the population of California and New York?

Not the people of the other 48 states...
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:02 PM
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There are ALWAYS a fresh crop of 21+ year olds who have come along since the LAST panic, so yeah - some of THEM are gonna buy.

There's another group that has come into money an/or 'enlightenment' since the LAST panic, and their determined NOT to miss out... THIS time, so some of THEM are gonna buy.

And there's some of us, who have ridden THIS ride before (I started stockpiling after Clinton got the nomination... in the summer of '92...). While we have no pressing need, if the RIGHT bargain pops up, we'll buy THEN.


So yeahhhhhh... there's gonna be SOME buying... but it's nowhere NEAR "panic-buying," as of yet. What happens this fall, depends on how much Vitamin STOOOOOPID the House democraps ingest this summer...

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Old 08-22-2019, 09:41 PM
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Panic buy

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I am wondering if this will trigger off another buying spree?
What say the omniscient ones of the forum?
This would be awesome. i can clean out the guns I no longer shoot anymore for top dollar! I sold a Mini-14 and 420 rnds of 5.56 NATO for $1200 last time.Bring it on.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:00 PM
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The market is far more saturated than it was in 1994 or 2013. Their is well over 10 million "evil guns" in circulation. I'd estimate, there are probably enough "high capacity" magazines in circulation, for each one of these rifles to have at least 10. The amount of ammo around, isn't even worth counting (there's a lot). With this massive glut of things that were once somewhat difficult to find back in the '90s, panic buys are much harder to trigger. People have the false sense of reassurance, thar if ban is passed, grandfather clause will allow them to purchase from the glut for cheap. If there isn't a grandfather clause, things will get messy in more ways than one.
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Old 08-23-2019, 05:26 AM
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I sure hope so. I've at least three, maybe four handguns and a boat load of hi-cap mags that I don't use. One AR needs to go too.



Recession. World economy is not doing well already. Current administration policies have been destabilizing, tariffs, trade wars being an example. The US itself is not doing too bad in terms of employment and consumer confidence but the growth is not what we wanted, the stock market adjustment is a matter of time, and what's happening with bonds is suggesting a possibility of deflation. On the other hand, WH inhabitants are viewed as relatively safe to 2A, which is bad for gun business. Seeing how Dems don't have a strong candidate to beat Trump, it seems that 2020 will see the continuation of current theme, with recession being more likely of the two.
We don't want POTUS to be just like the other past-president's who did nothing and let China steal so much intellect property and of course the trading imbalances (bad enough when China was "emerging" could be much worse now that China is so strong - both economically and as far as military-power). Joe Biden think's China is not a threat, and we know how smart Sleepy-Joe is.

Fake new's media is trying to talk down the economy, Witch-Hunt failed, the new Racist-Witch-Hunt is going no where, so they are praying for an economic collapse. Unlikely to get a recession with interest rates so low and likely going lower. Recession's usually start with inflation, high interest rates, systemic price bubbles, and high energy prices, - we have none of these right now. (Eventually the Fed will catch up to market rates and "un-invert" the yield curve at which point Fake New's will come up with a new Anti-POTUS theme.)

Stock market in the US is the only game in town, it might trend water for a while, but a significant correction, like a 30-50% one highly unlikely with out a one-off unforeseen event. Of course today, a 10% correction induces panic in the media and the investor class. Stock-Market is becoming an "entitlement" these day's - lol...With the S&P yielding more than the 10 year, it is almost always a "buy". (BTW, personally, i am not particularly happy about this, having accumulated and stored my asset's after a lifetime of hard work, investing, and trading, I have more in cash then my younger year's so I prefer to get a decent "0" risk return, rather than put (more) in the Stack Market).

In all likelihood, it will be politic's rather than the economy which has any material impact on the gun-market.
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