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Old 03-02-2017, 09:55 PM
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Arcus?

Pulled the trigger on one, didn't think it was too bad a deal at $250 shipped. Never have been one to tinker out of the box, but is there anything to be aware of with these?

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Old 03-02-2017, 10:15 PM
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Not a bad deal at all. I'm actually looking for one in Compact.

I think the design compromises were unfortunate for the Arcus 98, but the Arcus 94 is solid. It represents really the only evolutionary upgrade of the Hi Power. Though its finishing is rough, it'd be capable of eating a whole lot of +p, and there's a compact version that doesn't cost two arms and two legs to acquire (if you can find one)

Arcus 94 also makes a grand truck gun, cocked and locked and with a finish you won't feel bad about scratching.

As for shooting? From my experience shooting the 98, it'll shoot great.
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Old 03-03-2017, 03:20 AM
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Not a bad deal at all. I'm actually looking for one in Compact.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/623993238
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:18 AM
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Anybody know a source for parts?
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:45 AM
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Anybody know a source for parts?
A customer of ours is dealing with one at the moment (he actually told me about this auction). His has a full sized guide rod, Detective style. Think the rest are standard HiPower parts. The slide is lighter and shorter than the one to be found in Arcus 94C, so the recoil spring is heavier.
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:15 AM
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Yes, but you told me to avoid the Kareen Mk II Compact, Slav! Weird two piece guide rod!
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Old 03-03-2017, 09:41 AM
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Yep, and the one from the listing has the regular compact guide rod....strange eh?
I see also the hole in the slide and I can imagine that the one for selling had a full-length guide rod once...
Bellow you can see what I meant.

Another one showed up...: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/625243258
This one looks nice externally. It's really not that common to see such one with the white dots still on the sights. I really can't see any faults in the finishing, hard chrome and phosphate coating on the slide are looking like new. The dried out grease is a good sign.
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Old 03-05-2017, 05:32 AM
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Update- Seller got my money yesterday. I'll have the gun next week. Any way to tell when this gun was made?

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Old 03-05-2017, 09:33 AM
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The serial indicates 199x. Replace the X with the second digit from the serial number.
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Old 03-05-2017, 02:46 PM
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1993 too early?

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Old 03-06-2017, 10:54 AM
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1993 too early?

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Nope, just about perfect
The later models have the long down pointing beaver tail which is not my favorite feature of that gun.

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Old 03-06-2017, 11:03 AM
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Agree. Not trying to restart the Kareen-Argus debate, but are there Israeli parts in the earlier Guns?

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Old 03-06-2017, 11:06 AM
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Don't go there please....

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Old 03-06-2017, 12:23 PM
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What is the Kareen Arcus debate?
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:11 PM
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There's been considerable..... discussion regarding who did what between these two HPs. I'll field strip mine and take pictures when I get it Saturday.

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Old 03-09-2017, 07:46 PM
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Got the thing early.

Field stripping is dirt-simple and intuitive for people used to the Government Model.

No parts anywhere in it that might lead a reasonable person to believe there's any Kareen heritage here.

Serial number 49 HP xxxxxx. 1989 or 1999?

The grip is.... square, but I'm a revolver guy.

The mag doesn't fall free, but again as a revolver guy the idea of shooting 13 times without reloading is novel. Jury's out on removing the magazine safety for me.

On the mag, the one that came with it is a Belgian contract. Pleasant surprise.

The dots on the sights are missing. Thinking three dits of white paint or possibly a white grease pencil?
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Old 03-09-2017, 08:02 PM
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Got the thing early.

Field stripping is dirt-simple and intuitive for people used to the Government Model.

No parts anywhere in it that might lead a reasonable person to believe there's any Kareen heritage here.

Serial number 49 HP xxxxxx. 1989 or 1999?

The grip is.... square, but I'm a revolver guy.

The mag doesn't fall free, but again as a revolver guy the idea of shooting 13 times without reloading is novel. Jury's out on removing the magazine safety for me.

On the mag, the one that came with it is a Belgian contract. Pleasant surprise.

The dots on the sights are missing. Thinking three dits of white paint or possibly a white grease pencil?
Belgian contract mag? Any chance you might be interested in a trade, or a sale?
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Old 03-09-2017, 09:04 PM
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Well, while this isn't the forum for that, you can shoot me a PM to discuss... I only have the one magazine, though.
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Old 03-10-2017, 08:49 AM
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Almost forgot- the white dits in the sights are there, just filthy. Cleaning underway.

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Old 03-10-2017, 10:16 AM
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About the white dots - I've replaced mines with glow-on paint.



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Old 03-11-2017, 04:37 PM
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Just shot it, and some thoughts.

The grip feels... square. This might be a career in SAAs and DA revolvers, though.

Trigger is heavier than I would like and there seems to be a 'catch' in it once you start into the press. It'll stay right there if you release, and if you ear the hammer back (sorry, my years shooting SAAs) you can hear the sear come all the way back into the fullcock notch. For lack of anything else, it honestly feels like there's a notch in the fullcock position.

I have never been a particular fan of dry firing, as it is VERY hard on hammer mounted firing pins. Will dry firing hurt an HP firing pin, or should I get a snap cap?

This may be the most reliable selfloader I have ever owned, and is quite accurate.

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Old 03-16-2017, 08:13 AM
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Update. The trigger has smoothed out some with what Ruger Blackhawk people call a "poor boy trigger job"; hold hammer and slowly work trigger across hammer notch for a while. The parts will find their natural home.

Still wondering about dry firing, though.

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Old 03-16-2017, 09:14 AM
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Update. The trigger has smoothed out some with what Ruger Blackhawk people call a "poor boy trigger job"; hold hammer and slowly work trigger across hammer notch for a while. The parts will find their natural home.

Still wondering about dry firing, though.

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Dry firing is not a problem as the firing pin is "spring loaded", still I'm always using snap caps. If you plan to do a large series of dry fire releases, you can remove the extractor (and use the opportunity to clean and lube it's channel )
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Old 03-16-2017, 09:44 AM
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Your trigger will improve noticeably if you remove the "Magazine Safety" Watch the YouTube Video that uses a bottle cap to cradle the trigger - while driving out the MS pin on the trigger. no need to remove the trigger.
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Old 03-16-2017, 10:15 AM
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Smith & Wesson says dry firing if fine with all their center fire guns... but a no-no with rim fire guns.

SIG and Glock said dry firing of center fire guns is not a problem.

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