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Old 01-08-2020, 06:14 PM
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Any bad experiences with a DW Pointman?

I am about to pull the trigger on a DW Pointman. I know that DW is owned by CZ but I have not really read anything from actual owners or knowledgable people if anything changed other than management. Regardless, I have looked at other 1911s and my second was a Wilson Combat 1911. Cost is the biggest factor and do I really need the nail driving accuracy at 50 yards when I can't even see that far at a cost of $1K? Thanx in advance....
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Old 01-08-2020, 06:17 PM
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Iíve yet to see anyone say anything bad about Wesson 1911ís.

That being said there is a vast difference between a Wesson and a Wilson. With the current 1911 market Iíd buy a used Wilson.


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Old 01-08-2020, 06:24 PM
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I had a PM-45. It was a good gun.


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Old 01-08-2020, 07:10 PM
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I don't know anything specifically about the Pointman, but there are several threads/posts about issues with galling and separate issues with the Duty Finish.

Whether those are actually Dan Wesson issues, or owner issues, I don't know, but they have been reported in the Dan Wesson sub-forum.
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Old 01-08-2020, 07:52 PM
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I have had a great experience with my PM9, I followed the recommended break in procedures in the manual and no issues with galling, nor any malfunctions, put a techwell Magwell and grips on it and it’s flawless in single stack uspsa
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:54 PM
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I have a PM-9. I love it. It always functions no matter what I feed it.
Itís the most accurate semi auto I own.

It shoots 5 shots under 2Ē @ at 50 yards.

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Old 01-08-2020, 08:56 PM
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:56 PM
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Get it! Just got my PM-C in 38 Super. Great gun! (We have 7 other Dan Wesson 1911's)
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Old 01-08-2020, 08:59 PM
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I have multiple dw pointman 7's and they suck, constantly costing me money. I had to buy a Dillon reloader just to feed them.
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Old 01-08-2020, 09:00 PM
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The only problem Iíve had with my PM-9 is not having enough time to shoot it.
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Old 01-08-2020, 10:10 PM
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Pointman 7

Had mine for about 7 years. It remains one of my favs along and shoots great. Just like my EB and WC I would not give it up... Great gun.
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:47 PM
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I would love it if everyone who claims to have galling issues with DWs would send me their guns. I guarantee they'll run for me.
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Old 01-09-2020, 09:48 PM
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I would love it if everyone who claims to have galling issues with DWs would send me their guns. I guarantee they'll run for me.




I hear ya.


About to begin the break in of my first stainless DW 1911ís.


Going to follow the manual and proceed accordingly. Iíll run Ďem wet with recommended lube.
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Old 01-10-2020, 11:02 AM
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I shoot with a gentleman owns 8 DW's; bought my first DW PM-45 last year and like many posts before me can't just own 1, a new PM-9 on its way. As far a galling follow don't let that scare you, follow the DW manual, run them wet and it will break in like many other DW owners.
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Old 01-11-2020, 06:00 AM
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I hear ya.


About to begin the break in of my first stainless DW 1911ís.


Going to follow the manual and proceed accordingly. Iíll run Ďem wet with recommended lube.
Check the slide and frame rails for burrs. This is the primary reason for all of the galling issues.

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Old 01-11-2020, 06:02 AM
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I've noticed some makers breaking the edge along the rail so it isn't sharp.
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Old 01-11-2020, 08:14 AM
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I have 4 DW's and like them all, but I must say that my PM9 has never been very reliable. This seems NOT to be the common experience with the gun, however.
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Old 01-11-2020, 03:54 PM
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I have a Valor and PM-9. Both 9mm and SS. I cleaned them and inspected them for burrs (none). I lubed per DW instructions and cycled the slide by hand about 100 times, cleaned the rails, lubed, assembled, and repeated the hand cycling. I did this 3 times (300 cycles).

After this I went to the range and followed the DW break in procedure as to rounds fired, cleaning, and correct lube. Couple thousand through each and no galling issues.

Did I have to do the hand cycling? Maybe not, but if an issue were to occur I would have felt it or seen it during cleaning before it caused major problems. It took me about 1/2 hour to do this. Not bad considering the cost of the gun.

I run them well lubed and have used my reloads and factory ammo of various bullet types without issue. Also 3 brands of magazines with no issue. The accuracy is only limited by my ability. I work at a gun range part time and get to shoot a lot of nice guns and have not found one that shoots better than what my DW's can do.

I did send the PM-9 back to DW for a dust cover rub on the slide and found the customer service to be outstanding.

So buy one and enjoy the experience.

Bob
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Old 01-12-2020, 07:32 PM
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Get it! Just got my PM-C in 38 Super. Great gun! (We have 9 other Dan Wesson 1911's)
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Old 01-18-2020, 01:01 PM
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I couldn't be happier with mine!
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:18 PM
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I have the PM9 and I could not be happier. My only issue is I go way too long between cleaning, sometimes 3,000 + rounds but the gun never fails to preform.
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:38 PM
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Never a problem at all with mine. From 2013

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Old 01-18-2020, 07:35 PM
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I have a Valor and PM-9. Both 9mm and SS. I cleaned them and inspected them for burrs (none). I lubed per DW instructions and cycled the slide by hand about 100 times, cleaned the rails, lubed, assembled, and repeated the hand cycling. I did this 3 times (300 cycles).

After this I went to the range and followed the DW break in procedure as to rounds fired, cleaning, and correct lube. Couple thousand through each and no galling issues.

Did I have to do the hand cycling? Maybe not, but if an issue were to occur I would have felt it or seen it during cleaning before it caused major problems. It took me about 1/2 hour to do this. Not bad considering the cost of the gun.

I run them well lubed and have used my reloads and factory ammo of various bullet types without issue. Also 3 brands of magazines with no issue. The accuracy is only limited by my ability. I work at a gun range part time and get to shoot a lot of nice guns and have not found one that shoots better than what my DW's can do.

I did send the PM-9 back to DW for a dust cover rub on the slide and found the customer service to be outstanding.

So buy one and enjoy the experience.

Bob
Hey Bob,

Great Post, tried your clean/lube FP-10/cycle on my new PM-9 for 400 hand cycles until I get to the range, you can tell and see and feel the difference, it works, great idea.

Thanks
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:32 AM
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Mine is fussy as hell about magazines. Only the DW always drop free. Wilson, Shooting Star, Tripp are all problematic.
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:44 AM
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I would love it if everyone who claims to have galling issues with DWs would send me their guns. I guarantee they'll run for me.
But it is amazing this is the only 1911 that I have read where this issue keeps coming up. Far from all, but it does seem to be an issue to some degree with Dan Wesson SS 1911s.

Great gun and I have a Dan Wesson VBob, but it does seem to be something that does occur to some degree. My Dan Wesson VBob is in Duty treat partly because I wanted to avoid this possibility that and the finish was supposedly was very durable as long as you avoided certain things such as painters tape and use specific lubricants. This also avoids clouding of the finish that some have had issues with.

Oh, and neither of my Wilson Combat SS 1911 came with specific instructions to avoid galling.

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