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Old 11-12-2019, 12:46 PM
goaround28 goaround28 is offline
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The only thing you are prohibited from owning are:

Threaded Barrel

10+ magazines.

Other than that you can have any 1911 you want.

It's a matter of semantics how you acquire them.

If you want it new from the dealer then you have to abide by the approved list. Anything else can be acquired PPT between two CA residents.

Kimber, Springfield, Les Baer, Wilson, Night Hawk,, and others all have approved list options.

Throw enough money at it and you can have anything you want in CA minus threaded barrel and 10+ mags.

10+ magazines are currently legal to posess and use if aquired legally. They can not be purchased or imported.
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:05 PM
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Actually. No es correcto.

If you move to California as a new resident, you can bring in all of the off-roster handguns that you want, just so long as they are in a California legal configuration.

On "off-roster" handgun is not illegal. It's just that an FFL dealer cannot sell you one.

If you are a new, non-military, resident all that you have to do is fill out the "New Resident" report and pay $19.00 to register all of the weapons. If you're here on PCS military orders, you don't gotta do anything until you separate in the state.
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Thanks. What or how are ARs treated?
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:08 PM
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10+ magazines are currently legal to posess and use if aquired legally. They can not be purchased or imported.
So, would my 15 round mags be legal?
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:21 PM
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So, would my 15 round mags be legal?

Yes, assuming you aquired them at a time when doing so was legal and until such time that the current injunction is decided.


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Old 11-12-2019, 01:29 PM
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10+ magazines are currently legal to posess and use if aquired legally. They can not be purchased or imported.
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So, would my 15 round mags be legal?

No. Possession of large-capacity magazines remains illegal in California (refer to Penal Code section 32310). However there is a constitutional challenge to that law currently before the Federal Court and the federal judge hearing the case has issued an order enjoining the enforcement of certain portions of the large-capacity magazine statute.

The principle portion of the injunction prevents enforcement of the provisions making the simple possession of a large-capacity magazine a crime.

A lot of ill-informed folks have concluded that the injunction makes the possession "legal" and that's just not correct. What is does mean is that no enforcement action will result for possession while the injunction is in effect. But at some point the injunction will be dissolved, either because the plaintiff wins and the statute is found unconstitutional, or because the plaintiff loses and the law stands. It's important to remember that, in the latter case, folks can be prosecuted for possession that occurred during the time the injunction was in effect, and up to the period of the statute of limitations.

It's also important to note that felony offenses of manufacturing or importing a large-capacity magazine are not affected by the injunction, nor did the injunction remove the authority of LEOs to non-criminally seize large=capacity magazines as "nuisance" items.
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:41 PM
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A lot of ill-informed folks have concluded that the injunction makes the possession "legal" and that's just not correct. What is does mean is that no enforcement action will result for possession while the injunction is in effect. But at some point the injunction will be dissolved, either because the plaintiff wins and the statute is found unconstitutional, or because the plaintiff loses and the law stands. It's important to remember that, in the latter case, folks can be prosecuted for possession that occurred during the time the injunction was in effect, and up to the period of the statute of limitations.

Good post. The outcome though, and the underlying question most people want answered, is that standard cap magazines can be used at least until the injuction has been decided, assuming they were aquired legally.
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:42 PM
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A lot of ill-informed folks have concluded that the injunction makes the possession "legal" and that's just not correct. What is does mean is that no enforcement action will result for possession while the injunction is in effect. But at some point the injunction will be dissolved, either because the plaintiff wins and the statute is found unconstitutional, or because the plaintiff loses and the law stands. It's important to remember that, in the latter case, folks can be prosecuted for possession that occurred during the time the injunction was in effect, and up to the period of the statute of limitations.

Good post, and the details matter. The outcome though, and what most people want to know, is that standard cap (hi cap to the grabbers) magazines can be used at least until the injuction has been decided, assuming they were aquired legally.
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:44 PM
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:49 PM
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Thanks. What or how are ARs treated?
"Assault Weapons" are a different story. California has four different types of "Assault Weapons" (Evil by Name, Evil by Design, Evil because the judge said so, and Bullet Button Assault Weapons). The rules are different for each category.

At the risk of over-simplifying the statues, an Assault Weapon must be registered or permitted in order to be lawfully possessed. Assault Weapon registration is no longer available to non-LEO's. Assault Weapon permits are technically available, but I know of no case where an ordinary private person has been able to obtain one.

The law does make a "Military Assault Weapon Permit" available to military folks who are issued orders in California. But it requires an annual application which must be signed by the member's "Base Commander" and stating that the Assault Weapon is required for the member's military duties. The problem here is that most "Base Commanders" (Navy Region Southwest and Camp Pendleton) are one-stars with a legal staff to review documents they sign. The obvious question is why the military doesn't have weapon to issue to the member.
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:51 PM
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Good post, and the details matter. The outcome though, and what most people want to know, is that standard cap (hi cap to the grabbers) magazines can be used at least until the injuction has been decided, assuming they were aquired legally.
I understand. As a practical matter, there is very little chance that a person would see any adverse outcome from using a large-capacity magazine while the injunction is in place.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:00 PM
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IMHO people who continue to tolerate this crap deserve the hassle.....MOVE
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:10 PM
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erikk----------- Yes, MOVE--------------- To CA!

If all the gunfolk moved (or moved back) to CA we could vote this Democrat Super Majority outta business.

But everybody has fled. Like the Poles that fled to Czechoslovakia to escape the Germans.

That didn't work for very long.
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Old 11-13-2019, 05:41 AM
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Thanks for the responses. Anything acquired was done so legally in NJ which was bad enough as far as the limits go. Pistols, 15 round(now 10), long gun(s) same thing. Theres no “bullet button” on anything. The 15s are in purgatory in Pa. What a PIA.
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:11 AM
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“California Legal Configuration”
Does that mean the grip has to be attached to the end of the barrel?
Sorry guys, it’s just ridiculous to me that we even have to bring it up.
You have enough problems with other every day items that can be had anywhere else in the U.S. I’m glad that I don’t see barbed wire out my window!
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:08 AM
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Go to a gun store and gun shows.

This is a useful resource as well.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...splay.php?f=66

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Old 11-13-2019, 05:19 PM
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I moved out of Kalifornia 6-years ago and took all my 1911s with me. Wilson Combat still has a few on the Kalifornia Roster but they are premium 1911s at a premium price.

Get to know some of your local FFLs. They may get something in that you can purchase. Not sure where you are in the state but there was a small FFL in Norco CA that will work with you and find what you want that is legal in the state. He was a Wilson Combat dealer and got me exactly what I wanted.
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Old 11-15-2019, 07:05 PM
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erikk----------- Yes, MOVE--------------- To CA!

If all the gunfolk moved (or moved back) to CA we could vote this Democrat Super Majority outta business.

But everybody has fled. Like the Poles that fled to Czechoslovakia to escape the Germans.

That didn't work for very long.
I did move...Immediately after retiring from the MA state police & before that moved from CA after being discharged from the USN in 62 both places are lost causes You cant fix stupid
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Old 11-15-2019, 07:13 PM
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You can out-vote stupid. IF you have the numbers. That's my point.
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