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Old 04-18-2019, 02:02 PM
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Recommend carry ammo for 938

Now that summer is here, I will start wearing shorts and a T-shirt more often and carrying the 938 more than usual. I have had a bunch of different performance ammo that I have been using and will need to restock soon. I haven’t found any ammo I love. I did a quick search and did not find any advice that specifically stayed on course with recommendations for the small and short 938.

I want to get some ammo that is recommended by SIG or Better yet recommended by members / experts on this forum. I do not reload. I will try different ammos for my specific pistol. But I am hoping you experts can steer me in the right direction. And give me ideas on what to specifically look for in a 9mm performance cartridge in the little 938.

All things equal, I prefer to error on the side of penetration and control.

I am also one who carries extra mags in my pockets. I have had some cartridges with aggressive bullets that sometimes get caught on fabric and partially pull a cartridge from the magazine... enough to slow a reload, so again, if all things equal I don’t really want razor sharp bullet tips. The pistol is used most often in the role of killing “chance contact critters” (less than 50#), but I carry it downtown too.
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Old 04-18-2019, 05:24 PM
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Federal HST 150g is what mine is loaded with, +P gains nearly nothing out of the barrel length so I would not bother with it. Hornady 115g Critcal defense is good and shoots lightly as well if the HSTs feel too sharp or you simply don’t like the impulse.
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Old 04-18-2019, 07:42 PM
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Any good, standard-pressure 124gr round is fine.
There has been discussion that the 938 doesn't "like" lighter bullets, when I had a mechanical issue with my gun, The SIG Armorer's first question inferred that 115s can cause problems.
I've shot close to 2000 rounds of 124s and 130s, at moderate velocities, with no issues, but when I shot some hot 135s, I had some feed failures; I believe it was the violence of the recoil, rather than bullet weight or shape, that was the issue.
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Old 04-18-2019, 08:14 PM
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My 938 cycles Gold Dot 124 gr +P short barrel ammo reliably.
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:38 PM
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Mine eats 115 fmj no problem (may 2015 build, 52B serial #) I have 1250 rounds through it.

It also eats what I carry, 115 critical defense jhp no problem. Every session I shoot a box of the stuff, cost be danged.

Iv'e not shot any other jhp through it. Just critical defense.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:02 PM
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Federal HST 150g is what mine is loaded with, +P gains nearly nothing out of the barrel length so I would not bother with it.
I carry this round in all my guns with 4” and shorter barrels.
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Old 04-19-2019, 07:06 PM
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I carry Sig V Crown 124 in mine. I found +P 124 to be too much recoil.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:29 PM
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Federal HST 147 , just got a couple new boxes of 50.
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:43 PM
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The closest gun I have to the 938 is my SA EMP. For this particular gun, I tend to stick with the heavier, non +P loads like 147gr HST and Winchester Defend. Both loads reputed to be pretty good with short barrels.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:16 PM
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My choice is Federal Premium 124 gr. HST standard velocity.
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Old 04-23-2019, 02:54 AM
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IMO, it's hard to go wrong with either HST or Gold Dots.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:16 AM
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+1 for SIG 124gr V-Crown. It's packed in my 938, P365, & Gen5-19. I seem to always be able to find it on the shelf around here & have accumulated a generous supply. Good accuracy & function, plus the tests I've seen it will perform well if called upon.
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Old 04-26-2019, 09:56 PM
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My son and I tested several different rounds and decided on the following 3.

Federal HST 150g was the best but too expensive.
Federal HST 147g was close second at less than half the cost of 150g it wins.
Winchester Ranger T 147g was just edged out by the HST.

Most my guns I prefer the Winchester Ranger T 147g. My son likes the feel of HST better in his P938 Equinox.

+P rounds are pointless in these small barrels. Better off with heavy rounds.
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:51 PM
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When I had a 938, I ran Federal HST Micro and it ran great. I tried Hornady CD, but had issues with the rubber tip catching on the feedramp.
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Old 04-27-2019, 09:07 PM
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Hard to beat a Gold Dot SB load.

Also, get yourself a magazine pocket holster for the spare magazine.
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Old 04-27-2019, 10:50 PM
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Currently the best loads for a 3" barreled 9mm are all non +P and either 115 or 124 grain. 135s and 147s go too slow for reliable expansion.

1. Federal HST 124gr
2. Speer Gold Dot 124gr
3. SIG V-Crown 124gr
4. Hornady Critical Defense 115gr

In chrono tests by YouTubers like Paul Harrell it appears you'll lose about 70-100fps in velocity with a 3" barrel over a 4" barreled handgun like a Glock 19. You'd think that +P ammo would offset that, but the problem is the powders used in +P ammo are slower burning to get that extra velocity, and it's all wasted as the bullet runs out of barrel before it gets any added push.
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Old 04-27-2019, 10:56 PM
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Currently the best loads for a 3" barreled 9mm are all non +P and either 115 or 124 grain. 135s and 147s go too slow for reliable expansion.

1. Federal HST 124gr
2. Speer Gold Dot 124gr
3. SIG V-Crown 124gr
4. Hornady Critical Defense 115gr

In chrono tests by YouTubers like Paul Harrell it appears you'll lose about 70-100fps in velocity with a 3" barrel over a 4" barreled handgun like a Glock 19. You'd think that +P ammo would offset that, but the problem is the powders used in +P ammo are slower burning to get that extra velocity, and it's all wasted as the bullet runs out of barrel before it gets any added push.
Does a 1/2 inch vs a 3.5 inch gun really stop the 147s/150s from working correctly? I never personally tried anything myself in my really really short barrel guns and generally the tests I have run are in line with lucky gunners tests.
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Old 04-27-2019, 11:40 PM
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Does a 1/2 inch vs a 3.5 inch gun really stop the 147s/150s from working correctly? I never personally tried anything myself in my really really short barrel guns and generally the tests I have run are in line with lucky gunners tests.
No. Most police department actually use the Winchester ranger T in 147g and 124g
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:42 AM
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Whichever one will run in your gun.

I don't think there's 2 ***** worth of difference between defensive rounds of a given caliber.

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Old 04-28-2019, 06:00 PM
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HST 147 gr. works well in mine and the expansion tests I have seen seem to be very consistent and offer long sharp petals.
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Old 04-29-2019, 09:28 PM
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here is some testing out of a Sig Sauer P938 3" barrel.
147g delivers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3VfWkWMzOI

and HST 147G +p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM2AJm9VhYM
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