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Old 01-01-2018, 11:13 AM
CDMCKY CDMCKY is offline
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Originally Posted by Rock185 View Post
I've owned and reloaded for a number of 10mm semi-autos and revolvers, to include a Delta. Were I in the 1911 10MM market today though, I'd definitely consider the new Ruger 10MM. I had the opportunity to handle one recently. Barrel/slide/frame fit was very precise,i.e., no "Battle Rattle", decent trigger,etc. Ruger did some things right with this gun IMHO. A couple of those things would be the heavy,ramped bull barrel and the Bomar type adjustable sights. The heavy bull barrel adds recoiling mass (a good thing if one intends to shoot the "real" 10MM ammo), the ramped barrel provides case head support superior to the unramped barrels, especially the Delta's, and the adjustable sights allow for zeroing with any 10MM ammo from the mildest .40 S&W equivalent stuff to the most energetic "real" 10MM ammo....ymmv

BTW, also had a Kimber 10MM with ramped, very well supported, barrel. Unless I intended to shoot just lightly loaded factory or reloads, I would buy another Kimber 10 before I'd invest in another Delta with an unramped barrel that leaves a lot of unsupported brass hanging out, and typical Colt "relaxed" fit of component parts. I would have no concerns about the Colt frame holding up to 10MM. The unramped barrel and lack of case head support did bother me enough though that I had a ramped barrel installed in my Delta. Anecdotally, one shooter years ago did tell me that his Delta cracked the top of the slide through the locking lug area. He said Colt replaced the gun.
The "unramped barrel" is really NOT an issue with decently hot loads,
and I fire Double Tap 200 gr XTP JHP's (1300/690) in my Colt Delta
Goldcup and my Dan Wesson PM10-S all the time with no "bulging" of
the cases whatsoever. Now if you're going to take your loads up to
MAXIMUM 10mm power, a ramped barrel would be a good idea, as
chamber pressures get too high.

I also have a stainless Kimber TLE/RL which I shoot Underwood .45 Super
185 gr XTP JHP's (1300/695) and NO ramped barrel needed. The "you
always need a ramped barrel" is just another regurgitated "non-fact" which
just keeps getting repeated, and my comments are from my own actual
experience with the weapons.

Also, with 1911's, when going to "more powerful ammo" it's really NOT
about the pistol itself, it's about tuning it properly with springs, etc. to
handle the loads you're using AND a (cheap) Rock Island Armory 1911
can be "tuned" to handle anything a "better quality 1911" can.

If I wanted/needed to go to higher powers than what I shoot now, I wouldn't
be using a 1911 anyway, I would go to a revolver.

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Old 01-01-2018, 12:21 PM
mara5 mara5 is offline
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Op: Do a google search on Delta Elite failures. Why take any chances? There are other choices these days on 10mm.
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:00 PM
AtlasFired AtlasFired is offline
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Great stuff in this thread, thanks all. I've wondered about a lot of this for a while myself. Been eyeing the Kimber for a while...
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Old 01-01-2018, 04:13 PM
MikeRussell MikeRussell is offline
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It was just under $1000 delivered (including transfer fee). Ramped 6in barrel, 16+1 of 10mm goodness. Just another choice for you to look at. RIA "Big Rock" aka the Pro Match Ultra HC. The trigger is just as good as my DW Pointman 7, except it's 1lb heavier (5lb pull).
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by harleyvato View Post
Depends on if the colt was made before the frame modification as far as full House 10 mm loads. There is s thread on the colt section of these boards that has pics to show the difference. The price is not bad as far as the Delta goes. Short answer, if it interests you go for it! Hope this helps!

Colt took care of that problem during THE FIRST YEAR MODELS! 1987! Please put this ignorance to bed once and for all.
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:53 AM
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Three months later and still torn. Was saving for the DW when I met a new girl and ended up spending the money on a trip to Costa Rica. Had fun, but still want a new 10mm. Damn it all.
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Old 04-04-2018, 02:59 PM
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Just by the delta or a Ruger doesn't sound like you shoot enough to hurt either one. Don't buy something just to buy it you'll come to hate it and end up selling it later on. Good luck

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Old 04-07-2018, 05:54 PM
CDMCKY CDMCKY is offline
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I have a few 10mm and .45 Super 1911's, but when I'm
"in the woods" I carry my Taurus .454 Casull. It's a tad
larger than the 1911, but depending on where you are,
there's always a chance you might meet an animal who
needs a little more than a 10mm. A 300 grain XTP/JHP
at 1650 fps / 1800 ftlbs ends confrontations...

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Old 04-07-2018, 06:15 PM
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I scratched my 10mm itch with a Glock 20sf, about 5000 rounds of 10mm ammo, and a LW 40 cal barrel. I’m now considering selling it all since the “cool factor” has worn off...
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Flight Medic View Post
Since I've sold my S&W 500 Mag I would like to have a replacement larger-caliber hiking/camping gun...
Why'd you sell the S&W 500?
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Old 04-08-2018, 11:54 AM
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I have a Dan Wesson Razerback in 10mm which is one of their more reasonably priced 10mms, it's a very nice pistol. It and a 4" 629 are my main woods carry guns.

Also have a D.W. 2007 10mm CBOB which is a Commander, other than showing some wear and tear especially on the factory sights it a favorite. Loaded with 200 gr. WFNHC at 1150 fps my wife carries it as her bear gun on our hiking and fishing trips.

I've been considering a G20/G40 because I'd like more magazine capacity, I handled a G20.4 and a G40 at Cabelas the other day and I've owned a G29, Glocks are still blocks with lousy triggers in my hands but with the smaller grip panel maybe a G20.4 would work and it's a consideration....simply for more magazine capacity and as a possible replacement for a heavily loaded 4" 629, at my age my wrist simply doesn't tolerate the heavy recoil of the heavily loaded .44.

To address the OP's original question, I'd give serious consideration to the Razorback if I where you, it's a fine pistol and last I looked there are a lot of them out there in the $1200 range, maybe less.

I've seen some very nice custom Delta's over the years and wouldn't mind having one but, especially with the un-ramped barrel I'd stick to milder ammo.

I've been reloading the 10mm since 1990 and I wouldn't shoot the real hot boutique ammo in my or any other 1911. I've purchased some over the years and my experiences with some of it has been "erratic" to be polite.

If anything can take a beating from hot rodded 10mm in my opinion it would be a Glock.
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Old 04-08-2018, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jitterbug View Post
If anything can take a beating from hot rodded 10mm in my opinion it would be a Glock.

Does Glock still use the partially supported chamber? If so, no WAY would I fire hot 10 mm in one. I was shooting next to a Glock shooter last month and his brass was mixing with mine. I always pickup my 10mm...he didn't seem to want his. The Glock smile was in clear evidence on his.

If I shoot 10mm in something other than a good 1911, it's in a Tanfoglio Witness. Which, might not be a bad thing for you and the OP to consider. Larger mags and they can be had for a decent price.
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:24 PM
Jitterbug Jitterbug is offline
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Just getting back into considering a Glock myself.

I thought the Gen 4's and previous Gen 3 SF's had resolved that issue, perhaps not? Of course there is always aftermarket barrels, a good source for all things 10mm is

And the original Glocktalk 10 ring forum.
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Old 04-08-2018, 08:35 PM
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Ruger through Lipsey is now selling the Ruger Blackhawk covertible in 10mm/40S&W convertible. Here is one with my 357 Blackhawk, which of course also shoots 38 Special etc.

I wonder how many people will machine out the 40 S&W cylinder for 10mm Mag. You can not buy ammo yet I think but Starline is selling brass and a Ruger Blackhawk should be stout enough.
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