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Old 02-11-2020, 05:55 PM
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Plan A is not to go to dinner with Chinese people.

The coronavirus was traced to a strain found in bats. It is believed that the strain jumped from wild animals to humans in the Wuhan exotic meat market.

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Now you tell me. I had chinese for lunch yesterday. Cough cough
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:16 PM
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I showed no symptoms, Coronavirus superspreader linked to 11 cases.

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Old 02-12-2020, 09:43 PM
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Old 02-13-2020, 12:21 PM
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What goes well with the Corona Virus?
Lyme disease.
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Old 02-13-2020, 02:28 PM
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What goes well with the Corona Virus?
Lyme disease.
I’m stealing that.
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Old 02-15-2020, 10:18 PM
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New article claiming an R0 of 4.7 - 6.6. if that's true, this may very well be unstoppable.

https://www.peakprosperity.com/is-th...w-unstoppable/
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Old 02-23-2020, 12:36 PM
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Update source for COVID 19 from the CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/summary.html

Seems like a good idea to avoid crowds, airplanes, cruise ships and Communist China.
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Old 02-23-2020, 02:39 PM
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...Any mask works to some degree, but for viruses (like flues), N95 is the gold standard...

Isn't there a N99?
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:39 PM
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Isn't there a N99?
Yep. As well as N100 filter masks.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:00 PM
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Preps forna virus outbreak... well if there was ever a real level 10 kind of outbreak, I think yeah, I'd want to hunker down. But if I couldn't do that and had to roll the dice and go on the move, we'd just have to do our best to prevent exposure, by any means necessary.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:24 PM
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If you already have a 3M 07000 series N95 respirator, 3M makes an adapter so that the respirator can use N/P100 filters. 3M Adapter #502.
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:22 PM
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FWIW, a physician close to the cdc was still downplaying the whole thing, BUT,

But then went onto to suggest Not so subliminally that “it wouldnt be bad to give some thought to what you would do for food and money if you were suddenly quarantined?”

The economic impact of this is going to be significant.
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Old 02-25-2020, 05:30 AM
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To reduce the chance of getting sick in general, load up on probiotics, Vitamin C and Vitamin D. If you're in public and hear someone coughing...walk away to at least 6 feet distance if you can!! If you have to travel on a commercial plane, try to get a window seat and keep your air vent on (yes, ON). Bring a pack of Lysol wipes and wipe down the tray table and armrests (sounds like overkill, but the virus can live on hard surfaces for 24-hours) Use paper towel to touch handles like the toilet flush handle, toilet seat and lavatory faucet handles.

Wash your hands a lot, keep hand sanitizer with you and use frequently after touching surfaces in public (door knobs, handrails, etc).

^^^^^ This ^^^^^
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Old 02-25-2020, 07:07 AM
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Isn't there a N99?
Don't know...But appreciate the heads up.

PS just looked, that looks more like it is design for dust. N95 is still the gold standard for viruses and as far as I know of course.

This is the exact one I use, note it says 1860 medical along with N95...As mention, I take chemo pills every day so I have to use these in public during flue season (like food shopping where it is impossible to avoid people coughing etc). I've been doing it for many years with great success.

3M 1860 Medical Mask N95, 20 Count, Expire on May 2024, International
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Old 02-25-2020, 07:58 AM
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Yesterday I was eating lunch at taco bell
If you can survive eating taco bell, you will survive the corona virus.
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Old 02-25-2020, 01:47 PM
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Isn't there a N99?
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Yep. As well as N100 filter masks.
Never heard of them. Thanks.


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Don't know...But appreciate the heads up.

PS just looked, that looks more like it is design for dust. N95 is still the gold standard for viruses and as far as I know of course.

This is the exact one I use, note it says 1860 medical along with N95...As mention, I take chemo pills every day so I have to use these in public during flue season (like food shopping where it is impossible to avoid people coughing etc). I've been doing it for many years with great success.

3M 1860 Medical Mask N95, 20 Count, Expire on May 2024, International
I'd take a second look at the N99. I vaguely remember something about it being better for germs than the N95.

Whether one decides on the N95, N99, or N100, maybe we should grab them while we can. Hopefully, they are still out there.
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Old 02-25-2020, 03:31 PM
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beware lots of Japanese / Sushi places are actually Chinese owned

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I dont go to Chinese restaurants in the US, not now or any other time...
lots of Japanese , Teriyaki grill, donut shops, Vietnamese / Thai restaurants are actually owned by ethnic Chinese

lots of Koreans own Japanese restaurants
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Old 02-25-2020, 03:36 PM
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I do hope everyone "gets" that the C-virus although bad is nothing compared to how many people die each year from the run in the mill flues. Of course media makes a spectacle of everything new (ie C-V), but not routine (regular flues).
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:39 PM
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70000 have been sickened by the coronavirus in the world. 2700 have died.

Every year nearly 500,000 die worldwide from the regular flu. Think the media is overblowing this a bit.
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Old 02-25-2020, 07:23 PM
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70000 have been sickened by the coronavirus in the world. 2700 have died.

Every year nearly 500,000 die worldwide from the regular flu. Think the media is overblowing this a bit.
I'm wondering if it might be getting extra attention because where what happens annually with the regular flu is well known and not unexpected (and there's at least well-developed immunization programs), what's happening with coronavirus has caught authorities a little offguard and they are playing catchup which is not a good position for them to be in.
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Old 02-25-2020, 09:59 PM
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For the first time, I'm beginning to view this subject as serious to the U.S., even though it has not yet come close to "home".

A lot of bad news today from northern Italy ... still a long distance from the U.S., but also a long distance from the Wuhan, China epicenter.

From what's occurring (various news reports) wherever this virus "hits home", one lesson is that it appears wise to have a large stockpile of basic food and necessity items. (Forum members need not be reminded that means of SD are always advisable, even in the best of times/circumstances).

Probably too soon for anyone in U.S. (with no international travel plans) to go into some kind of extreme response mode, but I don't think it's too soon to stock up, pay attention, and begin to consider this a serious potential rolling "disaster". Obviously it is already a disaster in parts of China and perhaps a few other places. It's difficult to say where, when, and how it will be stopped.
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Old 02-26-2020, 02:39 AM
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Well. I guess this is going to seriously damage the Chinese mail order bride business for a while. Probably the whole Asian MOB business as well.
Well, along with brides, we get the following medicines from China.

Aciclovir – (Zovirax) – antiviral drug
Advair – asthma medicine
Adrenaline Hcl – treatment for cardiac arrest
Albendazole – treatment for worms
Alfuzosin – (Uroxatral) treatment for enlarged prostate
Allopurinol – gout treatment
Alprazolam – (Xanax) – treatment for anxiety disorders
Amikacin sulfate – treatment for bacterial infections
Aminophyline -treatment for cerebral ischemia
Amiodarone Hydrochloride -treatment for irregular heartbeat
Amlodipine – treats high blood pressure & angina
Ampicillin – antibiotic
Amodiaquine – treatment of malaria
Amoxicillin – antibiotic
Aniracetam – (Draganon, Sarpul, Ampamet) a congnition enhancer
Artemether – treats drug resistant malaria
Artesunate – malaria treatment
Aspirin – anti-inflammatory painkiller
Artemether – treats malaria
Atenolol – high blood pressure medicine
Atropine – antidote against nerve agents
Avandia – (Avandia) treatment of diabetes
Budesonide – (Entocort) treatment of allergy & asthma
Bupropion (Wellbutrin) antidepressant
Calcifediol – treats vitamin D deficiency
Candesartan – (Blopress, Atacand, Amias, Ratacand) treats hypertension
Captopril – (Capoten, Inhibace) treatment for hypertension & congestive heart failure
Carbamazepine – treatment of epilepsy, ADD & ADHD
Carnosine – treatment for autism
Cefixime – antibiotic
Cefotaxime – (Claforan) antibiotic
Cefsulodin – also, cephalosporin – antibiotic
Cephealexin – (Keflex, Keftab) – antibiotic
Chloramphenicol – antibiotic
Chlorpheniramine Maleate – (Chlor-Trimeton, Piriton) Antihistamine
Chlorpromazine Hydrochloride
Chloroquine Phosphate – treatment of malaria
Cilexetil – (Atacand) treats high blood pressure
Cilostazole – (Pletal) treats peripheral vascular disease
Cimetidine – (Tagamet) – heartburn treatment
Ciprofloxacine – (Cipro) – antibiotic & one of two effective treatments for anthrax exposure
Clomiphene Citrate – (Clomid, Serophene, Milophene) infertility treatment
Clopidogrel Bisulfate – (Plavix) treats coronary artery disease
Co-trimoxazole – (Septrin, Bactrim) antibiotic
Cloxacillin – antibiotic
Coreg – (Coreg) beta blocker that treats congestive heart failure
Cromoglicate – treats allergies and asthma
Cyclosporine – immunosuppressive drug
Cytisine – (Tabex) smoking cessation drug
Dexamethasone Acetate – anti-inflammatory steroid
Diclofenac Sodium – (Flector patch/Voltaren) – anti-imflammatory painkiller used to treat arthritis, acute injury and menstrual pain
Diosmin – hemorrhoid treatment
Diphenhydramine hydrochloride – (Benadryl) antihistimine
Doxycycline Hcl – (Vibramycin) – antibiotic
Enalapril – (Renitec, Vasotec) treatment of hypertension, chronic heart failure
Enoxacin – (Enroxil, Penetrex) antibiotic
Erythromycin – antibiotic
Famotidine – (Pepcid) antacid
Ferrous Sulfate – treatment for iron-deficiency anemia
Flucloxacillin – (Flopen, Floxapen) antibiotic
Fluconazole – (Diflucan, Trican) antifungal drug
Furosemide – (Lasix) diuretic for treating congestive heart failure
Frusemide – diuretic used to treat heart failure & edema
Flucloxacillin sodium – antibiotic
Gentamycin – antibiotic
Glibenclamide (Diabeta, Flynase, Micronase) anti-diabetic drug
Gliclazide – diabetes treatment
Griseofulvin – antifungal drug
Glyceryl Trinitrate – treatment of angina & heart disease
Hydrochlorothiazide – (Aquazide H, Dichlotride, Microzide, Oretic) diuretic
Human growth hormone – treatment of growth failure in children
Ibuprofen – anti-inflammatory painkiller
Imitrex – (Imatrex) migraine medicine
Indomethazine – anti-inflammatory painkiller
Ketoconazole – (Nizoral) antifungal drug
Lincomycine – antibiotic
Lamictal – treatment for epilepsy & bipolar disorder
Letrozole – treatment of breast cancerLipitor – (Lipitor) lowers cholesteral
Loratadine (Claritin, Lomilan, Clarinase, Alavert, AllergyX) antihistamine
Lovastatin- lowers cholesteral
Lumefantrine – treatment of malaria
Mebendazole – (Ovex, Vermox, Antiox, Pripsen) treatment for worms
Mefenamic Acid – (Ponstel, Ponstan) non-steroidal, anti-inflammatory painkiller
Meloxicam – (Mobic) non-steroidal, anti-inflammatory painkiller
Metamizole sodium (Analgin, Dipyrone, Novalgin) painkiller, fever-reducer
Methyldopa – (Aldomet, Dopamet, Novomedopa) antihypertension drug
Metoclopramide – (Maxolon, Reglan, Degan, Maxeran, Primeran) anti-nausea drug
Metronidazole – treats infections
Moexipril – (Univasc) treatment of high blood pressure
Mycophenolate Mofetil – Immunosuppressive drug
Niclosamide – treats tapeworms
Nifedipine (Adalat, Nifedical, Procardia) treats hypertension, premature labor
Nitroglycerin – (Nitrospan, Nitrostat, Tridil) heart medication
Norfloxacin – antibiotic
Ofloxacin – (Floxin) antibiotic
Ondansetron – (Zofran) – nausea prevention for chemo patients
Orlistat – (Xenical) – obesity treatment
Oxandrolone – Synthetic anabolic steroid
Oxybutinin – treatment for incontinence
Oxymetholone – Synthetic anabolic steroid
Oxytetracycline – antibiotic
Paclitaxel – also taxol – cancer treatment
Paracetamol – also, acetaminophen – painkiller
Penicillin – antibiotic
Phenacetin – painkiller
Phenformin Hydrochloride – diabetes treatment
Prednisone – steroid
Promethazine Hydrochloride – (Phenergan, Romergan, Fargan, Avomine) antihistamine
Propranolol – (Inderal, Avlocardyl, Dociton, Inderalici, InnoPran XL) hypertension treatment
Pyrimethamine – (Daraprim) antimalarial drug
Propecia – (Propecia) for prostate enlargement and hair loss
Quinine – malaria treatment
Ramipril – used to treat hypertension and congestive heart failure
Ranitidine Hydrochloride – (Zantac) antacid
Ribavirin – (Copegus, Rebetol, Ribashere, Vilona, Virazole) anti-viral drug
Rifampicin+Isoniazid – malaria treatment
Ribavirin – (Copegus, Rebetol, Ribashere) antivirual drug
Rifampicin – antibiotic
Salbutamol – asthma, copd
Sibutramine – (Meridia) obesity treatment
Spironolactone – (Aldactone, Novo-Spiroton, Verospiron, Berlactone) diuretic
Streptomycin – antibiotic
Sucralfate – (Carafate) – treats ulcers & acid reflux disease
Sulfadiazine – antibiotic
Sulfamethoxazole – antibiotic
Sulfadoxine&Pyrimethamine – treatment for malaria
Sulpiride – (Meresa, Sulpirid Ratiopharm) treatment of schizophrenia
Tamoxifen – breast cancer treatment
Tinidazole – (Tindamax, Fasigyn) anti-parasitic drug
Trandolapril – treatment of high blood pressure
Trimethoprim – antibiotic
Valaciclovir – (Valtrex) antiviral drug



The Coronavirus outbreak COULD (emphasized) lead to a critical shortage in some of those. That scares me more than the actual virus.
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Old 02-26-2020, 05:42 AM
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Good point Flight Medic. I was shocked when i first heard somewhere around 80% of our meds come from China...To your point, Maybe President Trump and Congress should Order Insurance carriers to pay for the brand name meds without the exclusions typically used to skimp and exclude their use.
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:01 AM
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70000 have been sickened by the coronavirus in the world. 2700 have died.

Every year nearly 500,000 die worldwide from the regular flu. Think the media is overblowing this a bit.
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I'm wondering if it might be getting extra attention because where what happens annually with the regular flu is well known and not unexpected (and there's at least well-developed immunization programs), what's happening with coronavirus has caught authorities a little offguard and they are playing catchup which is not a good position for them to be in.
Fish, thanks fpr posting those numbers, it quantifies for anyone half rational to see what I posted directly above yours.

Atlas, just an fyi, the flue "immunizations" are not as effective as the medical establishment would like us to believe. There was a really good article in the AARP magazine last fall exposing a lot of the truth here. More and more take the flue shot every year, but more and more people are getting the flue. I don't exactly remember the #, but the shot had a horribly low rate of working, I know it was below 50%. In our country alone, never mind 3rd world, 36,000 die of flue every year (that is well above the number who died in the Revolutionary war for example)....

I do of course condone what POTUS and the M-establishment is doing to fight C-Virus, but if I say the media is hyping C-Virus it is indeed an big-understatement. They do it because it puts butts in seats (viewers), and for the Lefty-Media it provides another vehicle to disparage POTUS with lies.
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Old 02-26-2020, 06:14 AM
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Alot can and will happen in the next 12-18 months, which is the timeframe for any kind of vaccine, regardless of its effectiveness. Exposure can be in the neighborhood of 40%.
The economic impact can also bring things to a screeching halt as evidenced by the last 2 days in the DOW. POTUS was right AGAIN 3-4 years ago by saying we’re too dependent on China for things. Just another reason he needs to be re elected, ALONG WITH GETTING CONGRESS BACK AND HOLDING THE SENATE, but now the liberals are in typical fashion, claiming Trump isnt handling Co19 properly...
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