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Old 02-09-2020, 08:28 AM
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Yeah, Iíll go with that thought!
Especially when there are shipping containers with discontinued trash showing up in the states. If ya want a Brazilian Hi Point (quality level), go for it!
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:55 AM
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Well the Taurus guns that seem worth a damn are the PT92s, Raging/Tracker line and the Rossi Cyclops(Rossi owns Taurus).
In my earlier post, I mentioned my friend with his Rossi 357 and the bent hammer issue. Both around the same price point. Horrendous quality control. There is a difference between a four ply trailer tire and a ten ply truck tire.
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Old 02-11-2020, 06:14 PM
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I own 2, a revolver and a TCP. The revolver is a .44 mag. I don't remember what year it is, but it was prior to the Raging Bull. It is ported which definitely helps with the recoil. I have had no issues with it and it is extremely accurate. I took a deer with it off hand at 80 yards with open sights. I also have a Ruger Redhawk. The Ruger is a great gun, but I shoot the Taurus better. I had a lot of problems with TCP, but Taurus made it right. They paid all of the shipping and corrected it. I have put several hundred rounds through it after I got it back, with a lot of different ammo, and have had no issues with it since. I am not necessarily a fan, but am happy with what I have.
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Old 02-11-2020, 07:45 PM
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Yeah, Iíll go with that thought!
Especially when there are shipping containers with discontinued trash showing up in the states. If ya want a Brazilian Hi Point (quality level), go for it!
Lets not insult hi-point. They are better than taurus At least hi-point warranty turnaround is measured in days not months.
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Old 02-11-2020, 10:45 PM
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Lets not insult hi-point. They are better than taurus At least hi-point warranty turnaround is measured in days not months.
at least Taurus guns don't melt in acetone
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Old 02-12-2020, 06:58 AM
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No, but they do use the acetone cans to make the Taurus!
OK, OK, Iíll stop now........shoot what you want......just donít be struttiní around.
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Old 02-12-2020, 12:06 PM
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Spelling aside, the thought of touching off a .357 mag in a Taurus snubbie sends chills down my spine.
This. On another forum, there's a guy who tells a first hand story about a Taurus revolver he owned that literally broke apart when firing and almost got him killed.
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:55 PM
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This. On another forum, there's a guy who tells a first hand story about a Taurus revolver he owned that literally broke apart when firing and almost got him killed.
don't forget, Smith and Wesson only rates their .357 magnum jframes for 5,000 rounds of 38 special +P ammunition, and I think 2,000 rounds of .357 magnum
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:08 AM
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I've seen lots of positive reviews of the Taurus 1911s, but again, they are working with a proven design.
Yup, the Beretta clones and 1911 have worked, it's their own designs I've heard nothing good about.
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Old 02-13-2020, 06:33 AM
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don't forget, Smith and Wesson only rates their .357 magnum jframes for 5,000 rounds of 38 special +P ammunition, and I think 2,000 rounds of .357 magnum
Just think what that means........
It was designed that way on purpose.
The Taurus wasnít designed at all......
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Old 02-13-2020, 07:21 AM
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I learned a lot reading through the 5 pages of posts in the 'Guns that were a disappointment' thread and noting which manufacturers were listed. I mostly learned that EVERY manufacturer seems to be listed for dishonorable mention - lol
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:30 PM
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don't forget, Smith and Wesson only rates their .357 magnum jframes for 5,000 rounds of 38 special +P ammunition, and I think 2,000 rounds of .357 magnum
It must be their lightweight alloy framed models. Correct?

What should a person do with the revolver after he puts 2000 rounds of .357 or 5000 rounds of .38+P through it? Anyone?
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:40 PM
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It must be their lightweight alloy framed models. Correct?

What should a person do with the revolver after he puts 2000 rounds of .357 or 5000 rounds of .38+P through it? Anyone?
If the frame is actually out of spec from stretching or flame cutting, discard. Otherwise, keep shooting; though perhaps plinking only with reduced loads.
Actually, this is the first I've read about recommended round counts for S&W revolvers.
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:04 PM
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I learned a lot reading through the 5 pages of posts in the 'Guns that were a disappointment' thread and noting which manufacturers were listed. I mostly learned that EVERY manufacturer seems to be listed for dishonorable mention - lol
You are correct! One subtle difference though.....the one or two complaints about Wilsons, Wesson, Smith, Ruger, HK, Walther, Baer, Nighthawk, Chen, or any other reputable manufacturer are coming from idiots that have no business with a gun.
The other 1,653,461 complaints are from people that own substandard compromises of unstable pot metal!
The key is the one or two brands that consistently, and overwhelmingly outnumber all others in the complaint department. Its fairly easy to see.....
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:13 PM
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It must be their lightweight alloy framed models. Correct?

What should a person do with the revolver after he puts 2000 rounds of .357 or 5000 rounds of .38+P through it? Anyone?
The "J" frame is a smaller framed, 5 shot cylinder, snubby, pocket pistol.
It was never designed to blast 5000 rounds a year. Great for concealment and the nightstand. Ya want more, they got more models!! K, L, X.....even the damned Hillary Hole models!!
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:28 PM
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The "J" frame is a smaller framed, 5 shot cylinder, snubby, pocket pistol.
It was never designed to blast 5000 rounds a year. Great for concealment and the nightstand. Ya want more, they got more models!! K, L, X.....even the damned Hillary Hole models!!

They also make short barrel, steel .357 models. I think they weigh about 23 ounces. I don't recall whether they are considered J frame or K frame.

There is also an all steel J frame .38, the Chief's Special. I think they still make them.
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:32 PM
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Those Airweight editions really hurt!!!
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:34 PM
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.357 in a J-frame? No, sirree Bob!!
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:00 AM
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I have owned 6-8 Taurus pistols, PT145 and SS 1911. Some were pretty good and some broke within 1,000 rounds. I will not purchase anymore Taurus, because if you decide to sell any, I darn near had to pay someone to take it off my hands. Got about 20% return when selling them, bad investment!
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:09 AM
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I have an elderly lady friend who carries a pretty little polished stainless ROSSI snub nose 5 shot .38 revolver. I'd buy one of these if I came across one (for my wife or daughter) It's a shame Taurus cheapened the product when they took over. Their new revolvers just don't measure up. & I shun the brand entirely. I'd rather buy RIA or Tisas products.
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Old 02-15-2020, 07:00 AM
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Rossi is hit or miss too. They will get a few right and then a few wrong. One things for sure, Lashlaruhe got it right with the resale thing. Guys that want to upgrade to a solid platform canít even trade them away. The same guys that sold it to them in the first place laugh when you ask for trade in value toward something else.
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Old 02-15-2020, 03:56 PM
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Rossi is hit or miss too. They will get a few right and then a few wrong. One things for sure, Lashlaruhe got it right with the resale thing. Guys that want to upgrade to a solid platform canít even trade them away. The same guys that sold it to them in the first place laugh when you ask for trade in value toward something else.
That's the problem, to many MORONS buy guns based solely on RESALE or TRADE in value. SMART people buy a gun because they want it.


I can show you gun stores that will give you 300$ trade in value on mint, in the original factory grease M1 carbines and garands and Colt pythons/anacondas
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:36 AM
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That very same store, with those examples you mentioned would give you approximately nothing for a Taurus. Theyíll sell them all day long though.
Nice store ya got there! They sell beer out the back door, to minors, on Sunday too!
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:30 AM
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I have an elderly lady friend who carries a pretty little polished stainless ROSSI snub nose 5 shot .38 revolver. I'd buy one of these if I came across one (for my wife or daughter) It's a shame Taurus cheapened the product when they took over. Their new revolvers just don't measure up. & I shun the brand entirely. I'd rather buy RIA or Tisas products.
Help her out and check the serial number online to see if it is covered under the Rossi Safety Recall of several models.

https://www.rossisafetynotice.com/

My blued 461 was affected and was replaced last year with a matte black Taurus 605 under the program by the parent corporation. Rossi no longer manufactures handguns. FWIW the 605 has been flawless at the range/
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Old 02-16-2020, 03:39 PM
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That very same store, with those examples you mentioned would give you approximately nothing for a Taurus. Theyíll sell them all day long though.
Nice store ya got there! They sell beer out the back door, to minors, on Sunday too!

A LGS sells beer to minors? Sounds like they would lose their FFL.
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