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Old 08-21-2018, 10:00 AM
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The Vigil ~ The New Entry-Level 1911 from Dan Wesson

I was given the opportunity to spend some time with a brand new Vigil Commander in 9mm; Dan Wesson’s new entry level 1911 pistol. The Vigil is currently available in both 9mm and 45acp in four configurations; full-size Government with a 5” barrel, a full-size Government with a 5” Threaded Barrel, a Commander with a 4.25” barrel, and a CCO (the Commander 4.25” barrel on a shorter Officers Frame). All Vigil pistols have an aluminum frame with a hard black anodized finish, and a stainless steel slide finished with Dan Wesson’s incredibly tough and durable Duty Finish (Black Nitride).


The new Vigil Commander in 9mm Before Heading to the Firing Line






The Vigil Commander 9mm I tested was unfired and brand new in the box. The preservative/oil that is normally on all new Dan Wesson pistols had already been wiped off. Upon disassembly before firing the Vigil, I noticed the rails and barrel had already been properly lubricated.

The normal break-in procedure as outlined in the manual that comes with the pistol instructs the owner to clean and lube the pistol every 50 rounds for the first 500 rounds. My plan was to run 350 rounds through the new Vigil, but I wasn’t going to be able to break it down and clean it every 50 rounds. Instead I added a little extra lube to the rails and the hood of the barrel before I started shooting. I also decided that during the course of shooting the 350 rounds, I would lock back the slide every 50 rounds or so and reach in through the ejection port to wipe off the feed ramp and whatever else I could reach with a cotton patch atop the tip of my pinky, and also put a drop of oil on the hood of the barrel.

When I disassembled the Vigil to lube it, I couldn’t help but notice how similar the Vigil is to my daily carry gun, the recently discontinued Dan Wesson Valkyrie Commander 9mm. I am very intimate with my Valkyrie and I own three of them in 9mm; two Commanders and one CCO. With the exception of a few parts and several cosmetic differences, the Vigil appears to be basically the same gun as the Valkyrie. Which is impressive given the MSRP of the Valkyrie was over $2000 and the MSRP of the Vigil is just under $1300. A quick look on Gunbroker tells me a new Vigil can be had for as little as $1000 to $1150 right now depending on model. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the price dip under $1000 in the coming months.

The Vigil seemed so similar to my Valkyrie, I felt compelled to take out the Valkyrie I was wearing on my hip to see just exactly what the differences were between the two pistols. Here are the differences I noted:
  • The Vigil does not have the Ball End Mill Cuts and Carry Cuts found on the muzzle end of the Valkyrie slide. Other than providing a place to grip when press-checking your pistol, these cuts are largely considered cosmetic.
  • While the Vigil has a different looking trigger, the trigger pull is the same excellent and clean 3.5 to 4 lb pull that all my Valkyries have. The Vigil trigger is free of creep, breaks crisply and has the same super short reset as the trigger on my Valkyrie. The trigger on the Vigil is so eager to reset, after firing a shot the trigger essentially leaps forward to reset on its own just like the Valkyrie trigger. I simply cannot tell the difference between the two trigger pulls.
  • The Vigil has what appears to be a less expensive Grip Safety without a memory bump.
  • The slide stop hole is not recessed on the Vigil, but it is on the Valkyrie.
  • The sights are the same, but the Vigil lacks the Valkyrie’s tritium lamp on the back sight, only the front is tritium on the Vigil.
  • The Vigil has a different hammer than the Valkyrie. I think both look great.
  • The Vigil has Standard Thickness 1911 Wood Grips and the Valkyrie has thin VZ G10 Grips. I generally prefer the Thin grips on 1911 pistols, but while I was shooting the Vigil I found I really liked the factory grips. The pebble textured sections offer plenty of grip without being too abrasive. If it were my gun, I would probably keep the factory grips on it.


The Dan Wesson Vigil next to the Considerably more Expensive Dan Wesson Valkyrie (Discontinued)






All the other parts on the Vigil appear to me to be the same as the more expensive Valkyrie, including: 1) a stainless 9mm Match barrel with a reversed-crown that is cut flush with the thick stainless flange, 2) a black hard anodized aluminum frame, 3) a stainless steel Duty Finished slide, 4) thumb safety, 5) slide stop, and 6) two Dan Wesson branded Checkmate 9mm magazines. Further, the machine work inside the slide and frame are as perfect and meticulous on the Vigil as they are on the more expensive Valkyrie.

The Vigil also came fit just as tight as all of my higher-end Dan Wesson pistols; that includes the slide to frame fit, barrel to bushing fit, and the fitting together of all parts in general. Just the typical outstanding fit and finish I have come to expect from Dan Wesson 1911 pistols. Which, in my experience, is heads above the fit and finish on the Colt, Kimber, and Springfield 1911 pistols I currently own or have owned in the past. There is simply no comparing the fit and finish of a Dan Wesson Vigil to the similarly priced 1911 pistols from the manufacturers named above. You also can’t compare the quality of the parts used to build the pistols. Kimber and Springfield make extensive use of MIM parts in their 1911 pistols. Colt even uses four MIM parts in their 1911 offerings. Dan Wesson on the other hand, uses zero MIM parts in their 1911 pistols; not even a single one in the entry-level Vigil. Most of the parts are forged and tooled steel, and from what I understand many of the parts are made in house.

Because of the quality of Dan Wesson parts, you would do much better to compare any Dan Wesson, which now includes their entry level Vigil, to the much more expensive semi-custom 1911 pistols made by Wilson Combat, Nighthawk, and Ed Brown; some of which cost two to three times as much as the higher-end Dan Wessons, and four times as much the Vigil. While a Wilson or Nighthawk may be a little better fit than a Dan Wesson, and the parts may be blended together a little nicer, there is simply NOTHING about these more expensive pistols that is two or three times better. Maybe 10% better in some areas, maybe 20% max, but NOT 100% or 200% better. I also think the Dan Wesson Duty Finish is more durable and better looking than Wilson’s Armor-Tuff finish, and at the 20 yards and under that I normally shoot handguns, accuracy is equal among these guns.

All of this got me thinking, if Dan Wesson has figured out a way to offer a 1911 pistol that approaches the quality of a semi-custom 1911 like a Wilson, at near Colt, Kimber, and Springfield prices, Dan Wesson has just pulled off a major coup in the 1911 world. And if the Vigil is as accurate as my higher-end Dan Wesson Valkyrie, handles as well, and shoots as softly, no one in their right mind would buy a Colt, Kimber, or Springfield. So, is it time for those other manufacturers to close up shop? Let’s take a look how the Vigil handles and shoots first…

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Old 08-21-2018, 10:01 AM
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Below is a picture of the 350 rounds of 9mm ammo I brought with me to run through the Vigil. A reasonable selection of different manufacturers, bullet types and weights. I Included in my selection one of my favorite 9mm carry loads, 147gr Federal HST. I also brought along my favorite 1911 range magazine for the test; a Wilson Combat 10 round ETS magazine. I have fired thousands of rounds through this particular magazine without a hitch and wanted to use it for this test.


The 350 rounds of 9mm for this review




A quick note about the groups below. While it may appear the groups below are consistently lower than the bullseye, that was entirely the result of the targets hanging higher than normal. My favorite local indoor range in South Florida, and possibly the best gun store ever, Delray Shooting Center, just renovated their range and the cables the targets ride on were tighter than they were before the renovation. As a result, the targets hung a bit higher than usual. For me to aim at the now higher bullseyes on my small homemade targets felt unnatural for me. So I simply let the bullseye sit above the front sight higher than usual so I could aim more naturally, and not at a consistent upward angle for 350 rounds! Going forward I am going to have to use targets that hang lower on the cable. Until, of course, the cables start sagging again

As I stood on the firing line and loaded up the first magazine for the Vigil, I was wondering to myself if it was going to feel like I was shooting my Valkyrie. As I slowly shot my way through the first magazine of American Eagle 124gr FMJ, I was nodding my head smiling; I could swear I had my Valkyrie in my hand. Shooting the Vigil felt exactly the same as my mind-blowingly soft shooting and considerably more expensive Valkyrie.


Here is the first mag I put through the Vigil, and the first 9 rounds I shot in a week




I ran 100 rounds of the American Eagle 124 gr ammo through the Vigil without incident. It functioned flawlessly. When I finished the first 100 rounds, I put a cloth patch on the tip of my pinky and stuck it inside the ejection port, wiped down the feed ramp and whatever else I could reach. I then closed the slide, put a drop of FP10 oil on the hood of the barrel, worked the slide a half dozen times and moved onto the brown box Remington UMC 115gr ammo.


Here is the first magazine I fired of the 100 rounds of Remington UMC 115 gr




As I worked my way through the 100 rounds of Remington UMC 115gr, I decided to see if the Vigil handled as well as my Valkyrie when shooting Rapid-Fire Drills. Which means I fire a round, let the front sight drop back down on the target and quickly pull the trigger again, then repeat until empty. It usually takes me just under 4 seconds to do this with a fully loaded 9 round mag in my Valkyrie, and the result is always about a 3" group. The Vigil performed identical to my Valkyrie during Rapid-Fire drills. The Vigil is such a soft shooting gun that the sights don’t come off target very much at all after firing a round. Which is exactly what you want in a defensive firearm; the ability to put as many rounds on your target as quickly and as accurately as possible. I find my polymer double and single stack 9mm carry guns like my Glock 19, tend to bounce around quite a bit after each shot because of the recoil. I couldn’t possibly put 9 rounds in a 3” group in under 4 seconds with any of them. Though my Glock 19 is only a few ounces lighter than the Vigil, it exhibits a lot more recoil and the trigger takes forever to reset. Both factors have a huge impact on the size of my rapid-fire groups. The lack of recoil exhibited by the Vigil and its quick resetting trigger makes it much easier for the shooter to put fast and accurate fire on a target. Any gun with characteristics that enable shooters to perform better, says a lot about the gun. The soft shooting Vigil, with its excellent trigger is such a gun.


Slow-Aimed Fire vs Rapid-Fire with the Vigil




I have said this before in my reviews of the Valkyrie Commander and CCO, I don’t know what Dan Wesson does to these lightweight aluminum framed guns, but all my aluminum framed Dan Wesson 1911 pistols shoot softer than my ALL STEEL 9mm Government sized 1911 Colts, Kimbers, and Springfields. Not just a little softer either, I mean considerably softer shooting. It defies logic, physics, and I can’t explain it. I have tried to swap out parts on my Colts and Kimbers to get them to shoot as soft as my aluminum framed Dan Wesson Commanders, all to no avail. While the recoil has softened up a little bit by installing different recoil springs and mainsprings, and switching to a non-radiused Firing Pin Stop, they still don’t shoot as soft as the aluminum framed Vigil. After many months of trying to figure this out, I just consider this phenomena one of the mysteries of the universe. I don’t fight it anymore, I just accept it.

In the end all of the good attributes exhibited by the Vigil are meaningless if it isn’t reliable with modern Hollow Point ammo. Depending on length of the barrel of my carry gun I either carry Federal HST 124gr or 147gr. Though I usually carry 124gr HST in 4.25” barrels or shorter, I opted to run the 147 gr HST for this test because I wanted to include a 147gr bullet in my selection. So I ran 50 rounds of Federal HST 147gr through the Vigil. The HST also ran flawlessly and without a hiccup.

One of the things I love about the Vigil, even when you are running ammo that you know is on the hotter side, like the Federal HST and the Winchester NATO 124gr, you can’t tell it is hotter when shooting it through the Vigil. The Vigil exhibits the same soft recoil as it does with the milder loads. I know when I switch from shooting the mild Remington UMC 115gr to the hotter Federal HST 147gr in my Glock 19, it is VERY clear a switch in ammo has just taken place. Make the same switch with the Vigil, and it is just not noticeable.


Here are the first 9 rounds of Federal HST 147gr ammo I fired




After shooting 345 rounds through the Vigil without a single incident, I closed my range session the way I always do. I loaded my last 5 rounds and moved the target as far down range as possible at my local indoor range; which is just over 18 yards. The group I fired is pictured below. I was more than happy with the results; I will take a 2” five shot group at 18 yards all day long and on Sundays. As you can see I ran out of my usual paper targets by this point of the extensive range session and was using whatever I could find laying around to shoot at.


The Vigil at Distance




If you have read any of my past reviews of Dan Wesson 1911 pistols, you already know I am impressed with them. I’m even more impressed with the Vigil given its considerably lower price point. If I didn't already own three Valkyries, I would immediately buy a 9mm Vigil Commander and a 9mm Vigil CCO and not think twice about the Valkyrie. It is basically the same exact gun with a few minor differences which are mostly cosmetic.

In my mind if you take any shooter and let them try any of the $800 to $900 entry-level Colts, Kimbers, Springfields, and then let them try a comparable sized Vigil, which is only $100 to $200 more expensive, I’m certain 100% would choose the Vigil. The Vigil is just that much better in every respect and represents the greatest bargain in the 1911 world period. It actually belongs rubbing shoulders with the more expensive semi-custom brands then the assembly line production guns from Colt, Kimber and Springfield. Once word gets out, and more people understand the incredible value the Vigil represents, the likes of Colt, Kimber and Springfield should be concerned.


The Vigil Commander 9mm after 350 Flawless Rounds Fired




Am I a Dan Wesson fan? You betcha. I see no shame in being a fan of a brand that makes high quality firearms that are an incredible value. I currently own four 9mm Dan Wesson pistols and have fired thousands of rounds through them and have never had a single failure. They are great guns, how can I not be a fan? Before you accuse me of being a Dan Wesson fanboy, I own more Glocks, CZ and FN pistols than I do Dan Wesson pistols and I think they are great guns as well. Simply put, I’m a fan of well-made, durable and reliable firearms that represent a good value. I do not pledge blind loyalty to any one brand. I have been shooting, buying, and selling guns for 30 years and there are lots of amazing guns out there, why would I limit myself to one maker. I just love shooting and writing about guns.

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Old 08-21-2018, 10:14 AM
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Nice write up, thanks
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:35 AM
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Just a minor point:

The Valkyrie is not discontinued.

The Valkyrie Commander is discontinued.

Which do you have?
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Old 08-21-2018, 12:00 PM
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Besides the bobtail, how is the Guardian different from the Vigil?


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Old 08-21-2018, 01:11 PM
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Just a minor point:

The Valkyrie is not discontinued.

The Valkyrie Commander is discontinued.

Which do you have?
In the review above I mention that I have 2 Valkyrie Commanders in 9mm and 1 Valkyrie CCO in 9mm.

The review above compared the 9mm Vigil Commander and the discontinued 9mm Valkyrie Commander.

I know the DW website only shows the Valkyrie Commander as being discontinued, and the Valkyrie CCO as still being available. But I'm pretty sure that is only like that until the distributors are sold out of the CCO. I believe the Commander was more popular and they are pretty much gone at this point. I don't think any new Valkyries are being made, CCO or otherwise. I also have never seen one with a serial number starting with "18...", which would indicate it was made in 2018. But I could be wrong about all of this. Just things I have heard from various folks.
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Old 08-21-2018, 03:01 PM
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So, you're saying that if I want a CCO next, I should skip the Valkyrie and get a Vigil?
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Old 08-21-2018, 03:09 PM
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Wow Harrish! Another great review!

Thank you!

All Valkyries have been discontinued. Currently they are selling at blow out prices because of it. If you can snag one, go for it. If you can't, you are only losing extra features with the Vigil, nothing else.
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Old 08-21-2018, 03:22 PM
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So, you're saying that if I want a CCO next, I should skip the Valkyrie and get a Vigil?
If you can still find one, you can get a Valkyrie CCO for closeout for around $1250. The Vigil CCO costs $1100 or so. You might even be able to find it for less. For the extra $150 I might go for the Valkyrie because I really like the look of the Ball and Hi Power cuts on the slide. I also like the look the solid black trigger. Other than the few minor parts mentioned here and above, it is the same gun. Flip a coin.

Plus the Valkyries will be gone soon. Then it will be a used Valkyrie Vs a new Vigil. In that case, I would buy the new Vigil all day. For me to choose the used Valkyrie, it would have to be a few hundred less than the Vigil and in like new condition.

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Old 08-21-2018, 03:30 PM
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Wow Harrish! Another great review!

Thank you!

All Valkyries have been discontinued. Currently they are selling at blow out prices because of it. If you can snag one, go for it. If you can't, you are only losing extra features with the Vigil, nothing else.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:11 PM
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Wonderful review, thank you very much! One question-any issues engaging the grip safety without the bump on the bottom of it?

Thinking of adding a 9mm 1911 and the Vigil CCO is what I’m leaning towards.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:19 PM
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Besides the bobtail, how is the Guardian different from the Vigil?


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Guardian has 3-dot night sights, different slide release, different trigger, thin grips, and a different grip safety.
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Old 08-21-2018, 06:29 PM
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Silverbacks are discontinued also. Try finding one of them at a "blow out price"
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Old 08-21-2018, 06:44 PM
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Wonderful review, thank you very much! One question-any issues engaging the grip safety without the bump on the bottom of it?

Thinking of adding a 9mm 1911 and the Vigil CCO is what I’m leaning towards.
No issue at all with the grip safety or engaging it. I would not worry about that at all. If you worry, just change it out. Not a particularly expensive part. You can even buy one directly from DW.

The CCO in 9mm is a good call. I picked up a Valkyrie CCO in 9mm a few weeks back. Shoots exactly the same for me as my Valkyrie Commander 9mm. Same soft-shooting sweetness, and same accuracy. Noticeably easier to conceal. I can wear shirts with the CCO that I can't wear with the Commander. Totally serves a purpose in my carry rotation. No need to move to my S&W Shield; much better to stay with the platform I am training with most lately.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:42 PM
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:50 PM
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I recently received the suppressor-ready model of the Vigil in.45 ACP. Two observations. One, the gun was so tight that it wouldn’t release the magazine. I had to take it to my gunsmith to remove it. Second, being an alloy frame it has noticable more recoil than my steel Colt Govt model 70. Shouldn't have been a surprise in retrospect. I'm hoping that the added mass of the suppressor I have in ATF jail will mitigate some of the recoil.

All that said, it is a damn accurate weapon...


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Old 08-22-2018, 06:53 AM
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A lot of great info. Thank you Roscoed.

The dimensions of the grip safeties are exactly the same. They just look different. The distance that the memory bump sticks out is exactly the same as the distance the low profile grip safety sticks out. The only noticeable difference between them, other than looks, is the length of the beaver tail. The low profile version is much shorter.
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:52 AM
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Old 08-22-2018, 07:52 AM
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I've got the Vigil CCO in .45 ACP. Among my fleet of SIG's and a VBOB, my Vigil CCO is my favorite pistol. Simply love the gun!!
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:21 AM
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I recently received the suppressor-ready model of the Vigil in.45 ACP. Two observations. One, the gun was so tight that it wouldn’t release the magazine. I had to take it to my gunsmith to remove it. Second, being an alloy frame it has noticable more recoil than my steel Colt Govt model 70. Shouldn't have been a surprise in retrospect. I'm hoping that the added mass of the suppressor I have in ATF jail will mitigate some of the recoil.

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Roscoed, If you haven't already, I want to suggest to you that you consider a 9mm 1911 pistol. They are such a pleasure to shoot, ammo is MUCH cheaper, and with modern hollow-point ammo terminal performance is equal among the service calibers (9mm, 40cal, 45acp).

My aluminum framed Valkyrie and the Vigil I shot in 9mm has less recoil than my all steel government Colt & Kimber 9mm pistols. Dan Wesson clearly understands how to build a 9mm 1911. I have read that a properly/well built 1911 in 9mm will exhibit less recoil.

I see guys in the Wilson section of the forum talking about how snappy the recoil is out of their 4" Wilson 9mm pistols in both steel and aluminum framed guns. My 9mm aluminum Dan Wesson's have no snap at all. They represent the softest shooting 9mm pistols I own. For lack of better words, the only way I can describe it, it is like they have a shock absorber built in that mitigates the recoil. That's what it feels like compared to my other light weight 9mm guns.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:08 AM
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Roscoed, If you haven't already, I want to suggest to you that you consider a 9mm 1911 pistol. They are such a pleasure to shoot, ammo is MUCH cheaper, and with modern hollow-point ammo terminal performance is equal among the service calibers (9mm, 40cal, 45acp).



My aluminum framed Valkyrie and the Vigil I shot in 9mm has less recoil than my all steel government Colt & Kimber 9mm pistols. Dan Wesson clearly understands how to build a 9mm 1911. I have read that a properly/well built 1911 in 9mm will exhibit less recoil.



I see guys in the Wilson section of the forum talking about how snappy the recoil is out of their 4" Wilson 9mm pistols in both steel and aluminum framed guns. My 9mm aluminum Dan Wesson's have no snap at all. They represent the softest shooting 9mm pistols I own. For lack of better words, the only way I can describe it, it is like they have a shock absorber built in that mitigates the recoil. That's what it feels like compared to my other light weight 9mm guns.


For 9mm I prefer my Sig Sauer and CZ models. I bought the SR-ready Vigil in .45 because that round is inherently subsonic; a suppressed .45 is a joy to shoot. My first 1911 was the Colt Govt model 70 to match as closely as possible the classic. Other than than the fixed sights, it’s a favorite to shoot; very soft. I then bought a Springfield Range Officer Compact (.45) that is a nice form factor but snappier than heck. The Vigil is in between recoil-wise but more accurate.


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Old 08-22-2018, 11:39 AM
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Good review, Harrish. Sounds like the Vigil will be a hot seller!
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No issue at all with the grip safety or engaging it. I would not worry about that at all. If you worry, just change it out. Not a particularly expensive part. You can even buy one directly from DW.

The CCO in 9mm is a good call. I picked up a Valkyrie CCO in 9mm a few weeks back. Shoots exactly the same for me as my Valkyrie Commander 9mm. Same soft-shooting sweetness, and same accuracy. Noticeably easier to conceal. I can wear shirts with the CCO that I can't wear with the Commander. Totally serves a purpose in my carry rotation. No need to move to my S&W Shield; much better to stay with the platform I am training with most lately.
Harrish, how is the balance of the CCO Valkyrie v. the Commander Valkyrie? Is the CCO a bit nose heavy?
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Old 08-22-2018, 04:38 PM
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Harrish, how is the balance of the CCO Valkyrie v. the Commander Valkyrie? Is the CCO a bit nose heavy?
Not at all nose heavy. About 70% of the weight of any 1911, CCO included is in the rear of the gun behind the trigger.


I'm reluctant to post this, but if you try this MAKE SURE YOUR GUN IS UNLOADED and the mag is removed...

If you take an unloaded 1911 with no mag or anything, hold it with one hand like you are going to shoot it, and put your finger in the trigger guard, but instead of pulling the trigger, release your three fingers from the grip, leaving only your finger in the trigger guard, the gun will spin backwards in your hand because all the weight is in the rear. Exactly the same with the CCO. There is not even an ounce difference in weight between the Commander and CCO version of the Vigil.
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Old 08-22-2018, 05:06 PM
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I think a better balance test is holding a gun level with a normal grip, with a loaded magazine, no round chambered, safety on. Then loosen the grip a bit and allow the gun to balance with the back of the trigger guard resting on the middle finger. Results for my 9 mm DWs:

- Eco officer: balanced with slight tendency to go grip down
- Valkyrie commander: slight tendency to go muzzle down
- V-Bob commander: balanced with slight tendency go to grip down
- Specialist government (with empty rail): slowly goes muzzle down.

I suspect a Valkyrie CCO would balance somewhere between the Valkyrie commander and Specialist government.
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