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Old 01-31-2020, 10:54 PM
jtbull46 jtbull46 is offline
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Originally Posted by partsproduction View Post
A lot of people died, I'll give you that, but you should read up on Lincoln, he hated every second of the "Uncivil" war, and he didn't start it, contrary to the re-writers of history.

But if there is another war it will be a continuation of the revolutionary war, the throwing out of tyrants whose aim is that of destroying Liberty.

Lincoln believed all human beings that were here legally should have Liberty, and the slavery issue was contrary to the Constitution "With Liberty and Justice for all".

Please stop equating the struggle for Liberty with that war for slavery, this struggle is to RETURN America to its foundations, not to overthrow them.

The way I see it is that a serious movement needs to be established, founded on the Constitution, on Freedom and the rights of mankind. Not rights to murder and enslave others for greed's sake, but the right to work hard and build a life, a good life that hurts no one else.
This movement needs careful planning and implementation, in all things legally per the Constitution, because we know the Founder's expected us to overthrow tyrants, so there has to be a legally declared opposition with the fall back of the righteous use of arms by all who love this country.
It's also clear that there can be no legal right to take up arms against the Constitution, so anyone who opposes the movement is a true outlaw and needs to be dealt with, with compassion if possible but with strength and determination if not.

This pathway is so clearly set before us that any other path looks stupid by comparison because we cannot negotiate away our Constitutional rights. We have to establish a new government, within the old one if possible but by any means if not, because those who oppose the Framer's ideas is a traitor, pure and simple.

I hate it that all the things I saw 60 years ago are coming to fruition, and it's happened far slower than I expected but stopping it will not happen by piecemeal activities, nor by constant preaching to the choir, we have to start thinking for the long term and be willing to sacrifice everything for Freedom. Otherwise, we may as well just give up our guns, and everything else we love, and hope death comes quickly.
So you think white men put on blue uniforms risking their lives because they belived the black man to be equal and white men put on gray uniforms becuase they believed them to be slaves? YOu need a history lesson as most yankees were as racist as southerners and maybe more. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many yankee states. Yes slavery was a big cause of the war, but if also was about money and while slaves were the currency at the time they were considered legal property thus the war was over money and sectional differences. Hell many yankees wanted them deported to liberia.