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ltcdwb 03-31-2011 09:37 PM

Maximus Arms
 
I received a sales flier advertising Maximus Arms 1911s. They are made in Tennesse. Does anyone have any experience with these 1911s?

MotorSeven 03-31-2011 09:55 PM

Never heard of 'em....nice website though:

http://maximusarms.com/

navman 04-01-2011 10:00 AM

Never heard of them, but it looks like they use Caspian race ready frames.....

tekarra 04-01-2011 08:08 PM

They look nice, wonder how they shoot?

CMR 04-01-2011 09:35 PM

I'm kinda diggin' them......
Gonna have to keep my eyes out for them around here.:rock:

Oldplug1 04-27-2011 12:35 PM

Maximus Arms update
 
Maximus Arms is scheduled to start shipping guns by late June or early July of 2011.
The 17-4 ph steel has required Maximus to purchase harder carbon composite tools for the CNC machines.
The gun has a completely new designed receiver, one in which the Plunger tube and ejector are cast as part of the receiver. This eliminates the parts from ever working loose. The firing pin is non-tapered allowing for the weapon to be dry fired without enlarging the channel or effecting the taper. The recoil reduction system, gives these guns a recoil comparable to a .38, and allows the shooters second shot to be on target at a much faster pace.
Weapon testing is currently being conducted by several objective testing groups, Metal material experts, shooting industry experts, and the military.
Thousands of hours have been spent creating these weapons and Maximus is confidant these will be the finest production 1911's on the market today.
As the saying goes, "We will sell no wine before it's time".

CWarner 04-27-2011 03:30 PM

I find their website quite interesting.

The gallery CLEARLY shows quite a few mismatches.

The two pictures I saw, the ejector was clearly a seperate item. (An integral ejector is not just bad, its ....very bad)
Also shown is a Damascus slide. Not do-able by casting.

The foundry also shows slides being cast. Proven to be a losing idea.

Mismatched parts abound in the Gallery. The photography is quite nice, but the workmanship displayed leaves a loooong ways to go if they are going to produce the "Finest production pistols available"

Is that their foundry?
Are those their frames?

I smell a bad stinker....

CW

mstusc 04-27-2011 06:10 PM

Thanks for the heads up CW, always appreciate your input on things.

Bob Rodgers 04-28-2011 08:59 AM

Quote:

Best fitted High-rise Beavertail in the industry
Now there's a pretty strong claim. :)

I eagerly await photos that show this so I can improve my limited talents.

Do I get a free toga with my Maximus if I pre-order?:biglaugh:

Oldplug1 04-29-2011 03:04 PM

Allow me to address some of CW's and Bob's concerns, statements and questions.

1) "Also shown is a Damascus slide. Not do-able by casting."
Naturally Damascus Steel is not cast. These slides are milled from bar stock,
and provided as an option.

2) "The foundry also shows slides being cast. Proven to be a losing idea."
The 17-4 ph steel make a world of difference for a cast slide. The slides are cast then milled to 1/1000th of an inch. With modern CNC machines, combined with investment casting, it’s possible to produce extremely uniform parts with little to no variation between the parts for a lower cost per unit then forging. 17-4 is strong, durable, and not brittle.

3) "(An integral ejector is not just bad, its ....very bad)"
Since the function of the ejector is to direct a spent brass casing away from the firearm, there is not much force delivered to the ejector. We feel it is not just a good idea...it's a very good idea. if you can break it during the normal operation of the gun, we will gladly replace it at no charge.

4) "Is that their foundry?"
Yes, one of our partners also owns the foundry. He is an expert Metallurgist, with years of experience working with 17-4 ph
His military contracts are not cast Ashtrays, and there has never been a complaint with his work. Examples would be such weapon systems as the Sidewinder missile, and 40mm cannon with a cycle rate of 3000rds per min.

5) "Are those their frames?"
the frames for the guns displayed on the web site are Caspian frames.
We used those frames as our design prototypes. When you are pre-marketing a product, you have to give a perspective buyer an idea of what the product will look like.

6) "Now there's a pretty strong claim."
Your right Bob that is a strong claim. We will be pleased to stack our fit and finish up against any production gun in the industry.

7) "Do I get a free toga with my Maximus if I pre-order?
Bob, when you pre-order, just let us know your size and what color Toga you would like. If you are willing to send a photo of yourself in the Toga, I'll make one just for you.:biglaugh:

As with any start up company, there will be set backs. We are addressing those, fixing any potential problems, and maintaining the highest quality control standards. These guns will be right before the first one is shipped.
We believe you will like our products, and won't have to worry about the smell.

Thanks,
Jim Fleming
Oldplug1

CWarner 04-30-2011 09:32 PM

Jim,

since I took the jab at you, I'll explain myself.

1) ....It doesnt say Damascus is an option. Unless I missed it.

2) 17-4 or unobtanium, It doesnt matter how close you machine them, Castings for slides just don't work. Para is an Example. Ruger has one of the finest casting facilities in the world. Their new 1911's have barstock slides. I trust they know something.

3)I understand the Ejector quite well, and whether you believe it or not, there is enough force to break them occasionally. How about when a customer slams a mag and hits it? Lots of variables that have already been covered. why not make it field serviceable and friendly? I cannot imagine a customer being happy about having to spend $100.00 or so to get one back to you for repair.

4) as for the foundry? well you may have one, but pictures of raw Caspian frames being represented as yours (by omission of fact?) starts down a slippery slope thats hard to get back up. Mismatched parts in your Gallery do NOT give the impression of quality tolerances you claim.

There are a Rash of new gun companies capitalising on the 100th Anniversary. I wish you well in your endeavor and hope you have an actual product to meet your expectations that we may see soon.

The Caspian stuff is great, but I personally would rather have seen what your actually selling.

CW

....I am not trying to slam you, but pre-sales of a product without the actual product are not a formula for success. .....especially in this arena.

and I can't even fathom the firing pin re-design. Please share that with us

Gasitman 05-26-2011 03:05 PM

They made the pages of American riflemen this month. Anyone seen one yet? Hard to shell out that kind of cash on a wing and a prayer. But more power to them for creating jobs in America!

DAT85 05-26-2011 08:41 PM

A sick joke. :barf:

The market is loaded with 1911's that are just as "well finished"with a proven track record.

This offering is nothing that hasn't already been done. (at a more reasonable price)and with a better design parameter.

No ghost ring sights and built in mag wells.

I mean,does a 1911 need a "recoil reducer" ? :confused:

Let's see how they do in the next couple of years.
If their still in business,THEN I will look at what ever their offerings are at that time.

For the kind of money their talking,I will just buy Les Baer products or used Ed Browns.
DAT85

Quack 05-27-2011 08:12 PM

well there's on thing good about it....they removed the Glock in the banner at the top of the page after i emailed them about it:biglaugh:

Quote:

We don’t have a Glock any place on our website… please review the Maximus Website
Quote:

I stand corrected…. You are absolutely correct… the picture of the smoking gun in our website banner “IS” a Glock… I can’t believe the oversight on our part. I guess I was too busy just trying to get our guns built and wasn’t paying enough attention to the folks building our website… Thanks to you and your attention to detail our site is being corrected.
Tony
Maximus Arms LLC

DAT85 05-28-2011 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quack (Post 3277290)
well there's on thing good about it....they removed the Glock in the banner at the top of the page after i emailed them about it:biglaugh:

Keep'em straight Quack! :)

Let's hope for their customers sake,their attention to detail improves! :biglaugh:

DAT85

polizei1 05-28-2011 08:25 AM

There is no way in HELL I would pay what they are asking, that's for sure. They're trying to compete with the big names!

Quack 05-28-2011 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldplug1 (Post 3228762)
5) "Are those their frames?"
the frames for the guns displayed on the web site are Caspian frames.
We used those frames as our design prototypes. When you are pre-marketing a product, you have to give a perspective buyer an idea of what the product will look like.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldplug1 (Post 3224607)
As the saying goes, "We will sell no wine before it's time".

...but we'll show you what the finished product looks like even though it's really not the finished product.

Quack 05-28-2011 09:24 AM

Quote:

Best fitted High-rise Beavertail in the industry
:confused::confused::confused:

http://www.maximusarms.com/images/st...iator_7604.png

Gullswing 05-28-2011 10:25 AM

Why the huge price difference between the Caesar and the Spartacus models? Is it the finish on the slide? Can the Caesar be ordered with a plain slide?

Kodadek 05-28-2011 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gullswing (Post 3278037)
Why the huge price difference between the Caesar and the Spartacus models? Is it the finish on the slide? Can the Caesar be ordered with a plain slide?

Can one get the Caeser without the dressing and does it come with croutons? Though we all know Mr. Rodgers here will be happy as he said to learn how to properly fit a beavertail:rolleyes: and he'll get his free toga to boot. Me? I'm just glad that I can get rid of all those other LESSER 1911s I own, you know the ones without fruity names or oddball frames, and arm myself with guns named Spartacus and Gladiator.

Bob Rodgers 05-29-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldplug1 (Post 3228762)
Allow me to address some of CW's and Bob's concerns, statements and questions.

6) "Now there's a pretty strong claim."
Your right Bob that is a strong claim. We will be pleased to stack our fit and finish up against any production gun in the industry.


7) "Do I get a free toga with my Maximus if I pre-order?
Bob, when you pre-order, just let us know your size and what color Toga you would like. If you are willing to send a photo of yourself in the Toga, I'll make one just for you.:biglaugh:

Thanks,
Jim Fleming
Oldplug1

Jim,

Got ya. Thank you for the response.

Buuuuuttt.....

Your website doesn't make a distinction between "production" guns and custom. All I could go by according to information available on your home page was this:

"Maximus Arms, LLC, based in Gallatin, Tennessee, is a manufacturer of custom and collectible guns."

And this:

"Best fitted High-rise Beavertail in the industry..."

A glaring lack of the word "production." The "industry" would almost certainly have to include custom shops, IMNSHO. And them guys are a prickly lot.;)


I'm glad to see you have a good sense of humor and a thick skin.
You're playing, (as I'm sure you've already noted) to a tough crowd here.:)

Seriously though, I wish you the best of luck with your new venture.

aironte 10-04-2011 02:05 PM

I am very familar with Maximus Arms, LLC and their line of 1911 .45 cal pistols. (maximusarms.com). They are made from 17-4 ph steel which is harder and more corresive resistant than 316 or 416 stainless steel. These hand gun prototypes were made from the Gunsmith's hand crafted .45 's. The gunsmith would use a file and a stone and 75 hours of labor. He has been able to mass manufacture these weapons to within 5,000th of an inch.
Each pistol has a match barrel, bushing, link and pin (Storm Lake), a recoil reduction system that takes the felt recoil of a .45 and convert it to the recouil of a .38. Oversized thumb safety, slide stop and mag release are standard, as well as a flared Mag well. The balance is incredibl.

Jim Watson 10-04-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

He has been able to mass manufacture these weapons to within 5,000th of an inch.
Take THAT, Cabot.

The "recoil reduction system" is a Sprinco as avalable on the regular accessory market.

Lawraven22 03-04-2014 05:07 PM

I recently purchased one of the new Maximus arms gladiator 1911 pistols. So far I have put about 200 rounds through it. It runs wonderfully and it is a beautiful pistol. Even more striking in person. Say what you want, but it is a hell of a gun and everyone at my Gun club wanted to have a go with it.

navman 03-06-2014 12:00 PM

Not to be a D*ck, and I understand that there are other aspects to a quality pistol BUT:

Maximus arms claims "Best fitted High-rise Beavertail in the industry..."

Looking at the picture you posted I would beg to differ. The gap between the frame tangs and the BT safety are gigantic. The pistol may shoot like a champ, and the price is a bit steep. For $1700 clams and that kind of printed claim I would at least expect a BT fit that was better.

Having said that...Buy it, shoot it and enjoy it, that is the real purpose of having so many choices in the 1911 world.


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