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Cappi 03-30-2018 04:10 PM

tools...what's the best sight pusher made?
 
More to the point, is there a universal one that will work well with many/most pistol slides?

I want something for personal use to dial in sights more precisely than a little whack or little bigger whack with hammer, punch and vise

I won't say money's no object, but don't have a problem spending money on a pro tool





Thanks

.L.T.A.

Bob Rockefeller 03-30-2018 04:30 PM

I have been very happy with this one:

https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/87...tallation-tool

There may be less expensive places to buy it. I bought mine from Brownells, but they have no pictures on their site, so I used a Midway link.

GONRA 03-30-2018 04:36 PM

Yer gonna get lottsa good advice. ???? "Hope It Verks".

MAYBE this is just some more GONRA Crapola - BUT - based on my experience -
you are gonna find it's Really Tough to find/design a dovetailed front sight mover
that truly UNIVERSALLY FITS EVERYTHING and can move REALLY TIGHT sights!
>>> Movers all LOOK GOOD but will twist off some pistols. <<<

Pretty sure Best Bet is to warmup the Cheque Book and get a dedicated sight mover.

If it turns out there Really Is a UNIVERSAL one - that guy should get a Nobel Prize!!!

7.62Kolectr 03-30-2018 05:16 PM

I got one of the ones from Fisher Solutions. It ain't pretty but it works. If you get the universal kit it'll come with the blocks needed for all makes and slides.

https://sightpusher.com/product/xl-handgun-sight-tool

On ebay

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Handgun-Sight...MAAOxyn~pRzmqb

I've used it on Sigs, Glocks, Berettas, Wilsons and Colts. The toughest sights were on the Colts. They were literally so tight in the dovetail that when they finally moved they 'snapped' with a loud 'pop'. But it worked and pushed them off and in.
Just use a business card around slide to keep the tool from marring it like this video.

https://youtu.be/IepygTtUftk

Are there better ones? Sure.
But for the price and amount of times you actually use it I found this to be perfect for an in your range box accessory.

apipeguy 03-30-2018 05:24 PM

The B&J Machine P500 Pro is a little pricey but has never failed me and works very easily.

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...prod54823.aspx

Cappi 03-31-2018 09:34 AM

excellent ..thanks guys

the MGW looks the most robust to me
(but it's also stretching the limits of what I'll spend )

I'm a bit unclear on it though, do I still have to buy the various inserts for different pistols?

thanks
and keep 'em coming

..L.T.A.

Bob Rockefeller 03-31-2018 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cappi (Post 12105082)
excellent ..thanks guys

the MGW looks the most robust to me
(but it's also stretching the limits of what I'll spend )

I'm a bit unclear on it though, do I still have to buy the various inserts for different pistols?

thanks
and keep 'em coming

..L.T.A.

Yes, each different slide needs itís own adapter. I comes with one.

weaselfire 03-31-2018 10:37 AM

Best? MGW by far.

Best value? Hammer and punch, again by far.

At under $50, the NC Star is pretty good. JMT is likely the best universal without going up to the MGW.

Jeff

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Pyrenean 03-31-2018 11:13 AM

For the JMT look at:
http://www.sightpushertool.com

ricsha 03-31-2018 11:33 AM

I've owned and used the Meprolight tool which cost a whopping $675.
I've owned the MGW Individual Sight tools for Glock, 1911, Sig, and several others at $100-125 each.
I've owned the $50-100 "Universal" sight tools.

All will work just fine on the easy sights. It's when you get to the tight ones (like Kimber and some others) that separates the can-do's from the maybe-nots. The $675 Meprolight will remove even the toughest sights but the slide clamping system can twist if you don't use extreme care with it.

Sometimes a good solid bench vise, a hammer, and a drift punch is all you need, but I'd NEVER use a hammer and punch on a night-sight.

I now own, and recommend, the new MGW Sight Pro as recommended by Bob above:
https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/87...tallation-tool

It uses a combination of side clamps (4) on the sides of the slide, pressure on top, along with individual slide rails (that you have to purchase separately) to insure the slide will not move under extreme pressure of removing or installing even the toughest sights.

Not cheap by any means, but it's a well designed and engineered tool that, at least for now, is the best I've found.

Hopknockious 03-31-2018 11:38 AM

Has anyone used the tool by matrix precision?

SCPOret 03-31-2018 01:42 PM

I am am frugal. Okay, okay - maybe cheap is a better description. I like to get a good/adequate tool for a modest price.

I purchased the the NcStar Vism Universal Rear Sight Tool ($44.99 from Amazon) and have used it on many firearms including the very tight front sights on Kimbers and Rugers. Yes, I did say front sights. It states it is a rear sight tool but it can easily be modified to also remove/replace front sights.

Unscrew and remove the bottom support plate from the tool. Then insert your slide into the tool to where the recoil spring cover makes contact with the tool. Mark your tool. This is the depth that needs to be removed to receive the front of the slide. Then take a saber saw and make a series of cuts close to one another. Break out the cut material with chisel and hammer. Now grind the cut area smooth with a cheap stone. (The stone will fill-up because the frame is made of aluminum.)

If your cut-out is a little too deep you can install the removed support plate (upside down) from the bottom and adjust it until the threaded portion is supporting the bottom of the recoil spring cover at the height needed.

When changing tight front sights from Kimbers and Rugers I found it helpful to set up the slide in the tool and put tension on it. Then place the assembly in the freezer for a few hours for the metal to contract. Upon removal from freezer I give the adjusting shaft a hit or two with a hammer. Then turn the adjusting shaft to remove old sight. So far this has worked for me.

GeckoGuns 03-31-2018 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7.62Kolectr (Post 12102010)
I got one of the ones from Fisher Solutions. It ain't pretty but it works. If you get the universal kit it'll come with the blocks needed for all makes and slides.

https://sightpusher.com/product/xl-handgun-sight-tool

On ebay

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Handgun-Sight...MAAOxyn~pRzmqb

I've used it on Sigs, Glocks, Berettas, Wilsons and Colts. The toughest sights were on the Colts. They were literally so tight in the dovetail that when they finally moved they 'snapped' with a loud 'pop'. But it worked and pushed them off and in.
Just use a business card around slide to keep the tool from marring it like this video.

https://youtu.be/IepygTtUftk

Are there better ones? Sure.
But for the price and amount of times you actually use it I found this to be perfect for an in your range box accessory.

I have one of these. It works fine but I had to replace the pusher screw with a grade 8 as hard sights caused the factory to fail.

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blindshooter 04-01-2018 01:59 PM

The JMT tool has worked well for me. I only gun plumb on 1911's.

Tallerico 04-01-2018 02:52 PM

The JMT mark 3 looks simple enough for me.

tightloops 04-01-2018 04:23 PM

Another vote for the MGW Sight Pro.

CyberDyneSystems 04-01-2018 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hopknockious (Post 12105850)
Has anyone used the tool by matrix precision?

It works well on 1911,. no idea about any other types.

CyberDyneSystems 04-01-2018 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCPOret (Post 12106386)
....

I purchased the the NcStar Vism Universal Rear Sight Tool ($44.99 from Amazon) and have used it on many firearms including the very tight front sights on Kimbers and Rugers. Yes, I did say front sights. ..... So far this has worked for me.

This looks very flexible. Thanks for posting, I might give this a test ride.

Bob Rockefeller 04-01-2018 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberDyneSystems (Post 12113378)
This looks very flexible. Thanks for posting, I might give this a test ride.

A potential problem with this design of sight tool is that it allows the slide to potentially twist in the jig when used on really tight sights because it grabs the slide at just one point.

KimberItaly 04-02-2018 06:28 AM

Hi,

I've read here that the NcStar Vism Universal Rear Sight Tool has been used on tight front sights, but how it performed on rear tight sights like the Kimbers' ?

tjkoko 04-02-2018 12:42 PM

Awwww hell, I just use a brass drift with the slide clamped into a vise. Works with anything.

AnabolicWeaponSys 04-02-2018 12:52 PM

Yep. Take a cleaning patch and place it between the punch and the sight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjkoko (Post 12117906)
Awwww hell, I just use a brass drift with the slide clamped into a vise. Works with anything.


ken_mays 04-03-2018 06:02 PM

I have one like this.

https://i.imgur.com/sDvjqCI.jpg

It works quite well, though not always on everything. Low mounted rears like Novak and similar can be difficult because the tool was designed to push out a sight near the level of the top of the slide.

I recommend putting some lithium grease or similar on the pusher screws where they thread into the body of the pusher and meet the pushing block.

The annoying thing about it is that you need to pull the guide rod out of the pusher to flip the block around when reinstalling the sight. I need to make another block facing the other way and install them both.

epj 04-03-2018 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tallerico (Post 12112770)
The JMT mark 3 looks simple enough for me.

I donít know of any design that offers more grunt for the buck than the Mk lll. It works on some very tight sights and will work on about 95% of the current designs on the market. The Mk V is sexier and more capable in some cases, but it costs twice as much. Yeah, shameless plug. I know.

SCPOret 04-03-2018 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimberItaly (Post 12115826)
Hi,

I've read here that the NcStar Vism Universal Rear Sight Tool has been used on tight front sights, but how it performed on rear tight sights like the Kimbers' ?

It has worked on my 3 Kimbers - rear and front sights. The tool needs to be modified as I described earlier to be used on the front sights. I have found the front sights to be the tightest. This tool adjusts to hold the top, bottom and both sides.


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