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JB6464 01-30-2020 12:55 PM

Keeping 45acp ammo in 50 cal can unboxed
 
Is it a bad idea to keep my 45acp ammo in a steel 50 cal can unboxed or loose ?
Thought about that verses keeping them in the plastic boxes like you buy for reloading but my gut feeling says the plastic boxes over a long storage time will hold moisture which is bad .
My 50 cals will hold over 700 rounds and my 30 cals just over 300 either way boxed or open , I am more concerned about moisture buildup over a long period of storage time .

RetiredRod 01-30-2020 01:08 PM

I've kept all common handgun calibers in 50 cal & 30 cal ammo cans for 3-4 months at a time with no problems. My cans have the rubber gasket sealing the lid, so IMO moisture shouldn't be a problem even with years of storage.

Benchloader 01-30-2020 01:12 PM

Reloads ? Key to ammo storage is cool & dry.

My reloads are kept in 100 round MTM boxes with all applicable load data. been doing it that way since mid 70s, never a problem to date.

Metal ammo cans are good too if you ensure the lids rubber seal is in good condition. I would remove all previous content markings from the can and re-mark it with current contents.

Factory ammo is kept in original packaging for LOT Identity. If there is a recall or you need to report bad ammo you will need to know what LOT is affected.

fast eddie 01-30-2020 02:57 PM

Low usage goes in MTM 100 rd cases and then in an ammo can with o ring. High usage are just kept in the MTM cases and are typically used in less than 6 months.

TRSOtto 01-30-2020 04:18 PM

You're overthinking it.

Loose ammo has been stored in 50 cal cans in some of the nastiest most humid conditions in the world with no ill effects.

drail 01-30-2020 04:28 PM

Steel G.I. cans are the best thing you can use. Check the gasket to make sure it's not missing or deformed. I've been filling them up and stacking them for 40 years.

havanajim 01-30-2020 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by drail (Post 13052948)
Steel G.I. cans are the best thing you can use. Check the gasket to make sure it's not missing or deformed. I've been filling them up and stacking them for 40 years.

Same here. They work great. Nothing to worry about.

magazineman 01-30-2020 04:46 PM

I've come to the conclusion that you CANNOT kill ammo with poor storage.

I've fired 50 y/o paper shotshells that were stored in a damp Cadillac trunk. No problems. Cycled an Auto 5 easily.

I've cleaned green goo off of rounds garage-stored loose in open coffee cans. Then fired no problem.

I got a massive pile of .45 & .30-06 kept in a brutally hot corrugated roof shed, baked in the San Diego sun since Korea. Rat's had been peeing & pooping on it for decades, & shredding the cardboard boxes . I chucked the top layer of rounds then cleaned & shot most of the rest. I still have some.

And who knows how all the WW1 surplus I've fired was stored? Probably in a series of dusty warehouses between bales of rope and pallets of tent pegs. For 90 years.

I would not sweat this issue AT ALL.

Grandpas50AE 01-30-2020 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RetiredRod (Post 13052818)
I've kept all common handgun calibers in 50 cal & 30 cal ammo cans for 3-4 months at a time with no problems. My cans have the rubber gasket sealing the lid, so IMO moisture shouldn't be a problem even with years of storage.

Same - I've shot 35 year old loads for .357 and .44 that have been stored in those same rubber gasket cans and never had a misfire or unusual pressure event.

USMM guy 01-30-2020 07:39 PM

I would not loose a lot of sleep over it.
 
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We have been doing it about forever with no issues.

Deyomatic 01-30-2020 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by magazineman (Post 13052970)
I've come to the conclusion that you CANNOT kill ammo with poor storage.

I've fired 50 y/o paper shotshells that were stored in a damp Cadillac trunk. No problems. Cycled an Auto 5 easily.

I've cleaned green goo off of rounds garage-stored loose in open coffee cans. Then fired no problem.

I got a massive pile of .45 & .30-06 kept in a brutally hot corrugated roof shed, baked in the San Diego sun since Korea. Rat's had been peeing & pooping on it for decades, & shredding the cardboard boxes . I chucked the top layer of rounds then cleaned & shot most of the rest. I still have some.

And who knows how all the WW1 surplus I've fired was stored? Probably in a series of dusty warehouses between bales of rope and pallets of tent pegs. For 90 years.

I would not sweat this issue AT ALL.

I agree completely. I got all hung up on it when I started getting into shooting after my father passed, I ended up with the ammo he had- mixed reloads in those plastic cases you mentioned, boxes that were mostly 40+ years old that had been stored loose in a cedar gun cabinet in a basement at around 60-70% humidity- no issues.

maxwayne 01-30-2020 09:13 PM

I keep most of mine in plastic boxes. You can fill an ammo can with loose rounds and find it too heavy to carry.

DWARREN123 01-30-2020 11:17 PM

I keep my reloads in plastic ammo cans, the ones sized like M-60 ammo boxes.
Not had a problem but then none of the ammo last all that long before being shot.

JB6464 01-31-2020 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by USMM guy (Post 13053086)
We have been doing it about forever with no issues.

This is exactly what I was referring to . :)
Lately it's just been easier to store it that way than wasting my time boxing every round just to put it in a sealed metal 50 cam .
I can dump over 700 rounds in my 50 cal cans and still have room .

Plantar5 01-31-2020 07:36 AM

Loose ammo is sold in ammo cans, so i cant imagine its a problem.

Does anyone use/ put those tea bag sized moisture absorbent packets that come with certain retail items in with their ammo? Just random curiosity...

yeti 01-31-2020 07:44 AM

I'd keep the metal ammo can off the basement/slab floor or keep something under it if you live in humid climates. No direct contact with the foundation is better long term.

callmegoose77 01-31-2020 03:53 PM

You can always keep loose ammo in gallon or quart sized zip-lock bags in the ammo can. I do this with a moisture absorber added.

pogo123 01-31-2020 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Plantar5 (Post 13053442)
Loose ammo is sold in ammo cans, so i cant imagine its a problem.

Does anyone use/ put those tea bag sized moisture absorbent packets that come with certain retail items in with their ammo? Just random curiosity...

I buy and insert the small desiccant packets from Dillon. Those go one each into a GI can on top of the 1000 rounds of .223 ammo (100 on stripper clips), a charging tool, and a spare Magpul 30-rnd mag.

Plantar5 02-01-2020 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pogo123 (Post 13054194)
I buy and insert the small desiccant packets from Dillon. Those go one each into a GI can on top of the 1000 rounds of .223 ammo (100 on stripper clips), a charging tool, and a spare Magpul 30-rnd mag.

It seems like a logical use for them...

kp321 02-01-2020 06:34 PM

The only problem with loose 45's in a 50 cal can is the weight. I'm not the man I once was and a full 50 cal can is all I want to pick up. Don't get me started on the "fat 50's". Takes hand tucks to move them!

MG08 02-04-2020 01:31 PM

I reload a lot of ammo for MGs, target shooting in a lot of calibers. I would go broke buying little plastic boxes for all of it. I bag lots up in ziplock freezer bags, and then into labeled 30 & 50 cal cans . as noted by others, some of the cans get fairly heavy. The bags make it easy for me to grab some ammo to go to the range or to link up / load into mags without carrying a heavy can all over the house. I do try to seal the cans up when it is low humidity here. Otherwise, I have 1918 dated 45 ammo that I have shot up - no idea how it was stored, but it all shot fine even the slightly corroded stuff. the flip side is 303 ammo I shot some of 20 years ago, is now giving me duds. sometimes old ammo just does not shoot. But my reloads all seem to work fine, stored as is...

JB6464 02-04-2020 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kp321 (Post 13054890)
The only problem with loose 45's in a 50 cal can is the weight.

Very true , I store my 45acp ammo for long periods of time in the 50 cal ammo cans .
For normal trips to the range I use my 30 cal ammo cans , big difference in weight .

Rick in Oregon 02-04-2020 05:04 PM

Seeing as these cans were designed for this exact use, don't know why the queston was even asked.

Like others here, I've been storing my ammo in them (62 ea. at last count) since returning to the world in 1968.

OS1880 02-04-2020 05:45 PM

I store all my ammo in these cans with no problems. That's what they were designed for.
All mine came from a friend who has his cigars shipped from the Honduras and they are shipped in these cans with a removable cedar lining, so I have some nice smelling ammo.

Vos Parate 02-04-2020 06:58 PM

There are billions of rounds sold and stored in little cardboard 📦 s.

Think about it.


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