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talley1911 10-12-2018 08:04 PM

Ruger Custom shop
 
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Just got an email from Ruger stating they will have a Custom Shop. Should be some interesting offerings coming from them.

KiaTia 10-13-2018 07:52 AM

They have my attention also like to get one of these in hand and compare it to some other custom brands.

hatchettg 10-13-2018 11:22 AM

The MSRP on that pistol is $2499.00. Unless dealers sell it for substantially below that, it will likely struggle in the market. From the pictures, it appears this model uses the standard mim grip and thumb safeties, and the grip safety looks to have been dropped in. Though this model includes high grade trigger components, front strap checkering, and a mag well, I don’t understand how it retails for more than double a SR target model.

At $2500, one could easily buy a Les Bear or Dan Wesson and almost an Ed Brown.

drail 10-13-2018 11:39 AM

$2499 for a Ruger? BWAHAHAHA!

Wilsonedbrown 10-13-2018 01:44 PM

2500$ for a Ruger lmao. From the pic doesn’t look to be to impressive on the fitting end or attention to detail. 2500 puts you in Ed Brown territory and I’m sorry but Ruger can’t come close to Ed brown idc who’s name is on the slide.

KiaTia 10-13-2018 02:37 PM

I agree with you guys but if you view Ruger's video it does say the frame, slide and barrel are hand fitted.

Wilsonedbrown 10-13-2018 02:51 PM

The grip saftey and TS sure aren’t for 2500 they should be and not mim either.

hatchettg 10-13-2018 06:42 PM

In addition to being overpriced for the features, I wonder how many people will be willing to spend that kind of money for the Ruger brand. Ruger is well known for its affordable firearms and is commonly referred to as a working man’s gun. $2000+ is a lot to pay for a pistol from a lower cost manufacture. Here is an analogy: Honda makes excellent cars but how many people would pay $60,000 for a super nice one?

Colt Carson 10-15-2018 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hatchettg (Post 12638226)
Here is an analogy: Honda makes excellent cars but how many people would pay $60,000 for a super nice one?

I agree that the price for the Ruger mentioned above is too high, but in response to your analogy... the Acura (Honda) NSX which is $60,000 X 2 plus some more for the 2018 model.

hatchettg 10-15-2018 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Colt Carson (Post 12639248)
I agree that the price for the Ruger mentioned above is too high, but in response to your analogy... the Acura (Honda) NSX which is $60,000 X 2 plus some more for the 2018 model.

Yes, but it is branded an Acura not a Honda. I am guessing that 1911 owners who spend more than $2000 on a pistol want it to be a higher-end brand. Nothing against Ruger, they make good guns, but they are a “lower status” manufacturer. When people spend thousands on a 1911, status usually matters.

Colt Carson 10-15-2018 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hatchettg (Post 12639254)
Yes, but is is branded an Acura not a Honda. I am guessing that 1911 owners who spend more than $2000 on a pistol want it to be a higher-end brand. Nothing against Ruger, they make good guns, but they are a “lower status” manufacturer. When people spend thousands on a 1911, status usually matters.

Agreed, but maybe Ruger doesn’t intend to sell many of these expensive 1911s, but instead is using them to nudge the brand a notch up the status ladder. That is my guess for what it’s worth.

old doc 10-15-2018 09:54 PM

For me, it's hard enough to rationalize buying a 1911 with RUGER stamped on the slide without them pricing one in Ed Brown teŕritory. I'm gonna pass and I suspect so will more than a few others.

Plantar5 10-16-2018 06:17 AM

Not my cup of tea either. If they're going to play in the semi custom/ custom 1911 price point market, I think they're going to have a tough time. There's many others to consider.

wproct 10-16-2018 08:41 AM

I would not be interested for the reasons already stated by previous posters, plus, I'm not a fan of the polished stainless steel flats and black frame and controls as shown.

andrew1220 10-16-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by wproct (Post 12639882)
I would not be interested for the reasons already stated by previous posters, plus, I'm not a fan of the polished stainless steel flats and black frame and controls as shown.

Same.

I fondled one on Saturday at the Ruger New Hampshire IDPA championship match. The Ruger rep told me the average shop price will be around $1,800. It felt and looked great. Trigger was decent - prob 4ish pounds.

My Dan Wesson PM9 cost me like $1300ish back in 2015, no way in hell I'd spend $500 more for a Ruger. Granted the PM9 doesn't come with a magwell but that is short money.

And does anyone know if this is a cast frame like the rest of their 1911's?? I don't know how they think they can justify that price with a cast frame. Hell even if it was forged, I still wouldn't pay $1,800.

If they don't drop the price, they're really going to struggle selling these.

dakota1911 10-16-2018 04:14 PM

I think there are folks at Ruger who are very into the 1911 platform and for me that is a good thing. I am sort of amazed the variants which Ruger has come out with in recent years.

I am not going to run out and buy one but it is very interesting news.

Magnumite 10-18-2018 08:17 PM

I am a Ruger fan but not a blind follower. That gun needs work even in the $1800 class. Some good work but that is offset by the standard production characteristics carried over to it. I wonder if these guns will have flats cut on the thumb safety and slide stop pins? I am still trying to wrap my head around that. I understand...fitting but really...

jjfitch 10-19-2018 10:25 AM

Didn't know Doug Koenig left S&W for Ruger!

His "DK" Custom and Por Series Smiths are awesome!

People who buy Rugers will buy the DK Custom Ruger too! Otherwise Ruger's Marketing gurus wouldn't bring them to market. (Bottom line driven marketing planning!)

C6v1999 11-12-2018 09:10 PM

I handled one of these at the local gun store today. The trigger was amazing and had to be in the 3 lb range; nicer than my Dan Wesson PM9. The frame and grip safety controls were typical Ruger though. The fit of those parts were what turned me off on a pistol stickered at $2400.

Magnumite 11-13-2018 07:23 AM

That type of fitting on a $2400 pistol is an abomination! An abomination! LOL...I hope they get it right. How was the slide/frame and barrel fit on the handled specimens?

C6v1999 11-13-2018 03:12 PM

The slide fit was nice ... no issues and the action parts were just superb. I cannot get past the low rent ambi-safety and fitment gaps of the grip safety at this cost. I can see me getting one if these end up being heavily discounted in the future.

Herbert Cannon 11-30-2018 07:53 PM

I think this pistol may find a slot in the market. Today's customs are running in almost $4,000 class. Les Baer still has a few a tad under $3,000 but not most. The least expensive is $3,000 plus and if you ask for anything on them the cost ballons real fast to $3500 +. Add taxes and you are paying a lot. So a semi custom at that price is not bad and Ruger makes one tough pistol. Discount it a bit and it is in like flyn.

Magnumite 11-30-2018 09:34 PM

That is from the Brown, Wilson, Baer, Nighthawk, etc shops. Go to a world class custom builder and you are looking at $6500 and up for a full house custom.

Herbert Cannon 11-30-2018 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnumite (Post 12674472)
That is from the Brown, Wilson, Baer, Nighthawk, etc shops. Go to a world class custom builder and you are looking at $6500 and up for a full house custom.

No argument from me. What I look for is a pistol that goes bang. I dont believe I could bring myself to $6500 for a custom 1911. That is a safe queen.

JayhawkNavy02 12-01-2018 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by andrew1220 (Post 12639954)
And does anyone know if this is a cast frame like the rest of their 1911's?? I don't know how they think they can justify that price with a cast frame. Hell even if it was forged, I still wouldn't pay $1,800.

In no way a fan of Ruger’s offering, but worth mentioning Caspian frames are cast.


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