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Old 09-07-2004, 02:44 PM
jfruser jfruser is offline
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Mid/Low Power .357 Magnum




I am looking for a commercial downloaded .357mag HP round.

POI for full-power .357mag rounds out of my Taurus snubby is WAAAY low. Also, I would rather not develop fouling in the chamber from firing lotsa .38spl.

This is what I have found, so far:

Manuf Cart Model Num Bullet Wt MV (ft/sec) ME (ft-lbs
Remington Golden Sabre GS357MA 125 1220 413
Federal Premium Personal Defense Hydra-Shok PD357HS2 H 130 1300 490
Federal Premium Personal Defense Hydra-Shok P357HS1 158 1240 535
Federal Personal Defense C357E 158 1240 535
Speer Gold Dot 23960 158 1235 535
Hornady XTP 90562 158 1250 548
Hornady XTP 90552 140 1350 566
Federal Personal Defense C357B 125 1450 580
Speer Gold Dot 23920 125 1450 583
Hornady XTP 90502 125 1500 624

I would be happy with .38spl +P perfromance in a .357mag case.
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:19 PM
Sistema1927 Sistema1927 is offline
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Why not just shoot a .38 Special +P?

I would suggest the new Speer Gold Dot 135 grain.

(I have never found fouling to be a problem, and I shoot a lot of lead .38s out of my .357s.)
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:08 PM
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at one time Remington offered a 357 mag load with 125 grain hollow point that had a velocity of about 1,250 fps instead of the 1,450 fps of the normal load. I don't know if they still make it now or not
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Old 09-07-2004, 07:16 PM
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jfruser,

Many recommend the .357 Winchester SuperX 145 grain Silvertip as a great all around self defense load. Not overpowered or with high muzzel flash.

In a .38 +P some are praising the new Speer 135 grain Gold Dot round. It was developed for NYPD for use in their snub revolvers. Also the 130 grain Winchester SXT HP round shows ok in clothed gelatin testing.

Good luck.

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Old 09-07-2004, 07:44 PM
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I chose the Remington Golden Sabers for my S&W 340PD. The only problem I've experienced is that the OAL of round #5 may increase enough, due to recoil, to tie up the cylinder.
Beware of that. To prevent this problem, I use a Lee factory crimp die to apply a little stronger crimp to my carry ammo. This may be unconventional, but it works.
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Old 09-07-2004, 10:15 PM
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Sistema1927:
"Why not just shoot a .38 Special +P?"

I currently am. Thing is, Taurus says not to use anything abrasive on their titanium bits. Using nylon brushes & solvent to clean out lead from 5 chambers is a L-O-N-G and arduous process, even when the nylon brush & cleaning rod are in an electric drill. Nylon just doesn't do much to lead.

I thought I might rig up a 5-way electronic bore/chamber cleaner like my homemade Outers Foul-Out copy, but I am clueless as to how that would effect the titanium & its finish.

I should have gotten an alum alloy & steel .38spl to start with.

Catbird33:
The Remington Golden Sabre 125gr is the mildest .357mag load I have yet found in my internet search. I have shot quite a few hot & heavy rounds through the 17 oz Taurus with no bullet pull to speak of, both jacketed & lead .357mag.

I think I'll give the Rem GS a whirl.
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Old 09-08-2004, 09:28 AM
Sistema1927 Sistema1927 is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfruser
I should have gotten an alum alloy & steel .38spl to start with.
If you decide to trade the Taurus in, I highly recommend the S&W 642. Mine is flawless, and shoots the 135 Gold Dots to POA at 7 yards. The fact that S&W has them priced to move right now is a bonus.
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Old 09-08-2004, 03:08 PM
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Pro Load makes a 357 mag Tactical Lite in 125 gr Gold Dot configuration. Slower than full power mags but faster than 38+p and it has high quality control. The Taurus may not be usable if it is shoting way low with 158 gr. You might want ot trade it in on a Ruger sp101 or something. You now own a firearm that is only useable with specialized and expensive ammo.
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Old 09-08-2004, 08:21 PM
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Winchester USA 110 gr JHP may be what you want.

I have never used any, but I understand that they are light recoiling loads.
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Old 09-08-2004, 09:42 PM
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I have found the USA 110gr. to be great in lighter .357s. They run about 1350fps IIRC. They likely won't help your POI troubles though.
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Old 09-09-2004, 06:09 AM
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Speaking of Winchester...

I have a few boxes of Winchester USA 125gr. JHP +P .38 Specials. I was disappointed when I discovered that when fired from a snubnosed revolver, indoors, they produce a HUGE fireball muzzleflash compared to other "stuff" I've tried. This may not be important to some shooters, but I don't care for it.
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