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Old 03-12-2004, 06:49 AM
Sig210-6 Sig210-6 is offline
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Colts available in Ca.




Only 5 are on the Ca. list.
Would you pick from one of the 5 below, or look elsewhere.
(example Kimber has (60) on the Ca. list of approved handguns to Colts (5)




01070XSE / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP

01091 M1991A1 Ser 80 / Stainless Steel (matte) Pistol 5" .45 ACP

01980XSE / Carbon Steel (blue) Pistol 5" .45 ACP

01991 M1991A1 Ser 80 / Steel (matte blue) Pistol 5" .45 ACP 01991Z

Custom M1991 A1 / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP
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Old 03-12-2004, 12:02 PM
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I'd personally get one of the 1991 models instead of the XS. I haven't been all that impressed with the XS and think that if you want all the extras Kimber and Springfield does a better job. The new 1991 with NRM, on the other hand, are some of the nicest, basic, no-frills 1911s on the market right now.

However, I count a total of twelve Colt 1911s certified for sale and six 5" models:

07000D Defender Ltwgt Ser 90 3" .45 ACP

07860D Defender Series 90 3" .45 ACP

04012XSE Combat Commander 4.25" .45 ACP

04091U Commander 4.25" .45 ACP
04691 Commander 4.25" .45 ACP

01070XSE Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP

01091 M1991A1 Ser 80 Pistol 5" .45 ACP

01980XSE Carbon Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP

01991 M1991A1 Ser 80 Pistol 5" .45 ACP

01991Z Custom M1991 A1 Pistol 5" .45 ACP

02070E Govt Model MK IV Pistol 5" .38 Super

02570E Govt Model Mark IV Ser 80 Pistol 5" .38 Super
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:36 PM
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i'd get the colt. i had a springfield, a perfection in external cosmetic but crap in performance and internal workmanship. crap i tell you.

the only complain of my colt is that it's got a ding on the front sight and an idiot mark by the safety (both not done by me, came like that) and the plastic MSH. performance is excellent.
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Old 03-12-2004, 05:43 PM
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Your right, I just listed the 5" .
It was just an example. 38 5" Kimbers to 5 5" Colts.
Would get a new 70 series but are not on the list.
Will look into the 1991 as you suggested.
Can you tell me the difference's between these 2 Colts
below?
Thanks! and keep the info coming.


01991 M1991A1 Ser 80 / Steel (matte blue) Pistol 5" .45 ACP 03/12/2005
01991Z Custom M1991 A1 / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 09/08/2004
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Old 03-12-2004, 06:55 PM
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Probably the closest thing to a 70 series Colt in CA is the Les Baer Hardball model. The frontstrap is checkered, and the sights are adjustable.

Other than that the only difference is the quality and accuracy (better) and the slide logos (worse, no Pony.)

Most of the old 70 series guns for sale used have had some monkeying done with the sights anyway. But I do see used ones regularly for sale, some are "LNIB" or even "NIB".

I'm holding out on new Colts until Colt certifies the 70 Series in CA. (Or the WW I/II, or the Gunsite, either one.) Also in the mean-time still looking for the used one that I can't live without.

If I just had to get a new one, the blue 1991. They look pretty nice now.
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Old 03-13-2004, 01:53 PM
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I just picked up the .38 Super three days ago. I thought it was the NRM, however being new to Colts it is easy to be confused by all the little differences. I also have a Kimber and while it has a couple of added features the Colt is far nicer and I feel a stronger pride of ownership. This is only the beginning, infact I fear for my Kimber. Just pick one, it won't be your only one I'm sure.

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Old 03-14-2004, 06:32 AM
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Out of the choices you have I would go with the 5 inch 1991.
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Old 03-14-2004, 12:13 PM
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I'm holding out on new Colts until Colt certifies the 70 Series in CA. (Or the WW I/II, or the Gunsite, either one.) Also in the mean-time still looking for the used one that I can't live without
Ranger, The bad news on this is I don't think the WWI colts will ever be submitted for the CA drop list. Why would Colt pay CA's ransom when these are a waiting list item, sold as fast as they can produce them, it would not make any business sense for them to do so. THe WWII guns are no longer in production so I don't think that will happen either.

Your best hope is that they will submit the Series 70 with a light CA firing pin. But isn't there some looming legislation going to kick in a couple of years that is going to put the whole 1911 platform in doubt in CA. If that is the case I doubt even the Series 70 will happen.

I also don't think there is much support for buying Colts in CA, 3 out of 4 gunshops I pop into down here don't have any, on a lucky day there might be one lonely one in the case. Colts management will undoubtably use the sales performance of the already submitted handguns as a bell weather for any additions to the list. I really think this is a more stocking dealer issue than a customer issue, but folks want to see what they are buying. Of the shops I frequent when I am in Southern CA only 1 can I expect to see any Colts when I stop in, and most of those are older, there are two other shops I can expect to see used guns in, one of which occasionally will have the new series 80's, the rest of the shops zip.

I know it is pretty much doom and gloom but if things don't change somewhat in CA it might be that the only Colts you can buy will be used ones.
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Old 03-14-2004, 12:49 PM
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Schromf As bad as it sounds you have hit the nail on the head. The .38 Super I just bought has been the only new Colt I had seen in a fairly active gunshop. I went to another shop listed on the Colt website and they didn't stock anything. They would be happy to get me something off the internet. That ofcourse is a whole other issue for all gunshops regardless of brand.

From what I have heard Colt pissed off their dealers a couple of years ago and most of them have not forgotten. Add to this the drop test and it is pretty hard to find a new Colt today. It may or may not get better but it's going to take awhile regardless.

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Old 03-14-2004, 02:41 PM
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Why would Colt pay CA's ransom when these are a waiting list item, sold as fast as they can produce them, it would not make any business sense for them to do so
because californians buy lots of guns despite what the ignorants say about our state?
it's a big state, with lots of people, with guns. it's busines$.
i like colt's repro, just the basic like the original design.
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:18 PM
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because californians buy lots of guns despite what the ignorants say about our state?
Nobodys arguing that Californians buy guns, my point is there is a 4-5 month waiting list on the WWI repro's, they don't need to pay the state of CA to sell them. They aren't sitting on dealer shelves anywhere, and Colt can't make them fast enough as it is, what reason would you use to take to senior management at Colt that would even interst them. All you are suggesting is spending money that doesn't need to be spent, and any good manager is going to ask why. If Colt was doing a longer run on these or had more production capability it would be different, but the way it looks now once these 5000 are gone its over.
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