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Old 06-22-2003, 05:38 PM
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question about kimber barrels




Does Kimber use the same barrels in all of their 5inch .45 1911's such as the same barrel for the basic custom 2 and the Eclipse Target 2 etc? Or do they use a barrel for the basic guns and once out of the basics such as the GM's, Eclipses, Tacticals, etc.?
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Old 06-23-2003, 12:51 AM
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Kimber uses the same parts for all of their pistols. So as far a barrel is concerned they are all the same for each length. If there is any differences between them it will be in the material, stainless steel vs. non-stainless (aka carbon steel), otherwise they are identical. So look at the specifications for each pistol you are interested in, if they read the same they are.

I hope this helps.
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Old 06-23-2003, 09:22 AM
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I've heard from a few gunsmiths that Kimber barrels are pretty good .... tight tolerances and fairly accurate.
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Old 06-23-2003, 10:48 AM
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Kimber uses the same parts for all of their pistols. So as far a barrel is concerned they are all the same for each length. If there is any differences between them it will be in the material, stainless steel vs. non-stainless (aka carbon steel), otherwise they are identical. So look at the specifications for each pistol you are interested in, if they read the same they are.

I hope this helps.
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In a previous thread someone pointed out that ALL Kimber barrels are carbon steel, even if the frame and/or slide are stainless. There's apparently some good reason for barrels not to be stainless - brittleness, perhaps? I do know the one place I have ever seen rust start on my Kimbers was at the muzzle (immediately cleaned off, of course!)
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Old 06-23-2003, 11:35 AM
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Must be a very recent change if they're not using some stainless barrels.

The 2003 Kimber site says...if you click on the individual model names...

"Gold Match pistols have the features of the Custom II models along with a match grade barrel that is carefully machined from a stainless steel forging. Air gauging ensures end-to-end consistency to .001 inch, a final assurance of accuracy. "

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"Custom Shop models share custom features like Premium Aluminum Trigger tuned to 3.5-4 pounds, ambidextrous thumb safety, stainless steel match grade barrel with match chamber..."

I didn't know they used match chambers.

I assume they've been using stainless barrels on these models all along - but maybe not. Anyway, my '99 Stainless Gold Match has a stainless barrel. According to the '99 catalog, the Gold Match, Polymer Gold Match, Gold Combat and Super Match had stainless barrels.

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Old 06-23-2003, 12:05 PM
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Must be a very recent change if they're not using some stainless barrels.

The 2003 Kimber site says...if you click on the individual model names...

"Gold Match pistols have the features of the Custom II models along with a match grade barrel that is carefully machined from a stainless steel forging. Air gauging ensures end-to-end consistency to .001 inch, a final assurance of accuracy. "

and

"Custom Shop models share custom features like Premium Aluminum Trigger tuned to 3.5-4 pounds, ambidextrous thumb safety, stainless steel match grade barrel with match chamber..."

I didn't know they used match chambers.

I assume they've been using stainless barrels on these models all along - but maybe not. Anyway, my '99 Stainless Gold Match has a stainless barrel. According to the '99 catalog, the Gold Match, Polymer Gold Match, Gold Combat and Super Match had stainless barrels.

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My new Gold Combat has stainless steel match grade barrel and chamber. Had an experienced shooter try it and they were hitting POA sub 1" groups at 12 yrds.

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Old 06-23-2003, 12:33 PM
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Well, there ya go

Is there an advantage to stainless in a barrel? I have no problems with either the Pro Carry or TLE barrels, but would there be any point in looking to change them out?
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Old 06-23-2003, 12:51 PM
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The barrels in both of my stainless Kimbers are carbon. How do I know you ask? I checked to see if I could blue them and I could. The bushings were stainless, but the barrels were not.

The only complaint I have is that in an advertised all stainless gun, I want a stainless barrel. They shoot fine.
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:00 PM
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I do know the one place I have ever seen rust start on my Kimbers was at the muzzle (immediately cleaned off, of course!)
Happened to me too, in my Pro CDP - I found the rust there after I cleaned and lubed the barrel - when I finished cleaning it was fine, after just two days of carrying, i found rust there. It made me pretty mad, I thought that on gun designed for carry there would be minimum of parts prone to rusting (the gun was cleaned and lubed immediatelly after each shooting)...
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Old 06-26-2003, 06:28 PM
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The inside of the Kimber catalog has a graph that shows which frames and barrels are made of which material.
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Old 06-27-2003, 08:03 AM
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The inside of the Kimber catalog has a graph that shows which frames and barrels are made of which material.
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Yes, it shows that most of Kimber barrels are carbon steel - but I can't think of why is this so even on carry models, where you do not need absolute accuracy, but you absolutely need the weapon to hold its quality even in harsh environment
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