Colt M1911 Reproduction...

[Space Cowboy]

Sirs,

Firstly, I want to precise that I wasn't on the Forum for a long
time and I didn't read all the messages since I was gone. So, I
sincerely apologize if this Post was already written.

I have a picture of the Colt M1911 Reproduction(yes, M1911, not A1), in the Wonderful Japanese Firearms Magazine:
"Gun".

The picture was taken at the Orlando 2003 Shot Show.

I hope you will enjoy it :



Thank you for your reading!

Best Regards,
Space Cowboy.

[dsk]

Thanks for the pic, Space Cowboy. Not trying to get off the subject, but for all the official anti-gun sentiment in Japan much of their population shares an acute facination with firearms. Just ask any proprietor of an indoor shooting range. He'll tell you how Japanese tourists flood his business every summer. When I visited Japan last year I was amazed by the number of realistic Air-Soft guns I found available for sale, even in places like street corner stands! They might all think guns are evil, but somebody must be buying those.

[Space Cowboy]

Hello DSK.

I think you're talking of one of these Airsoftguns replicas(no Computer modification):

(Pictures from me)





Isn't?

This is my Western Arms Colt M1911A1...




Best Regards,
Space Cowboy.

[dsk]

Yes, I saw one of those. Very realistic, all the way down to the markings (never recalled seeing US patent info on the real ones, however. ). I might've picked one up had it not been for the thorny issue of getting it back home. I guess I could have mailed it to myself, but I had enough problems with the Japanese language as it was without having to deal with the post office. Contrary to popular belief, outside the Western hotels and tourist traps not too many people speak fluent English (not even in Tokyo).

[darkest2000]

Here's an Japanese airsoft Para Ordnance that I built on my own, based on the Western Arms internal. can you tell it's not real?











BTW the whole gun is of Aluminum alloy construction, it fires 6mm plastic BBs at 350FPS semi automatically. Gas powered.

[prplhrtx3]

Both of those airsofts are beautys, sure could fool me by the pics. May have to take a closer look at them next time I go to a gun show.
Space Cowboy, can I enroll in your next photography class.

[dsk]

I was gonna say. I think we've found our very own Ichiro Nagata.

[SamColtFan]

So, dsk.....

How come Air-Soft produces a more realistic looking 1911A1 than Colt? I don't get it?

Regards,
Sam

[dsk]

Hey, that was mean.

[SamColtFan]

dsk....

I'm serious. Look at the thumb safety on the airsoft. Compare it to the safety on the Colt reproduction. Colt shaves down a regular thumb safety to 1911A1 shape. The airsoft has a thumb safety that was made as you see it. Rollmarks look sharper too. Inquiring minds want to know.

Regards,
Sam

[NvRaydr]

Space Cowboy -
Don't know what you do for a living, but, you could sure show some of the Gun Mags around here how to photograph firearms. Guns & Ammo take note!!

[Mark1648]

Sam, DSK is right that was mean, and to think I was just about to see if you were still interested in the SWAT prototypes, o well....

[SamColtFan]

Originally posted by Mark1648
Sam, DSK is right that was mean, and to think I was just about to see if you were still interested in the SWAT prototypes, o well....

!!!!!! There is absolutely no comparison between the Airsoft and Colt thumb safety. The Colt thumb safety is remarkable. And the Colt rollmarks look beautiful....... I will say ANYTHING for the Colt SWAT!!!!!!!!

But really Mark....How did Airsoft get such a nice looking thumb safety and slide release? The repros to me look like the Colt thumbsafety was an alteration of a standard thumb safety and the repro slide release looks to be a serrated release that has been hand filed to duplicate a checkered look. I've wondered about his for sometime. I have a Commerative WWII Colt "ETO" in nickel. It has beautiful reproductions of the WWII checkered thumb safety and the checkered WWII slide release. Doesn't anyone make these parts anymore.

BTW, still interested in the SWAT.

Regards,
Sam

[dsk]

SCF, I've noticed that a lot of the retro parts on the new Colts look different than the originals, even ones that don't share such a long generation gap. For example, there is a small difference in the shape of the new S70 steel trigger vs. the older S70/S80 steel trigger. Something tells me a lot of older tooling got sold or tossed out in recent years.

[SamColtFan]

dsk.....

I'll bet that's it. Old equipment has vanished. Some, but not all of the WWII repros also have an unusual angle at the upper and lower tips of the trigger. Some, more pronounced than others. Some, don't have the odd angles. Don't get me wrong...I've been tempted many times by the repros.

BTW, does Colt license Airsoft to use the Colt name & logos?

Regards,
Sam

[darkest2000]

I believe so, Western Arms stated on their website that they have full license from Colt to use their name on the airsoft guns they produce.

See here for their full line of replica airsoft guns: http://www.wa-gunnet.co.jp/gallery/gallery.html

Note that they have license for all the guns they make, including Colt, Beretta, S&W, Wilson, STI, SV...etc not sure about their "prokiller" series, apparantly they are full auto 1911s

[AZ Husker]

Originally posted by SamColtFan
BTW, does Colt license Airsoft to use the Colt name & logos?

No need, they're made in Brazil (or is that another clone?).

[Space Cowboy]

Hi everybody!

Firstly, thank you very much for the compliments. I'm a bit
embarrassed!!!

OKAY, let's talk about Airsoft...

Western Arms Replicas are made in Japan, not in Brazil.

Ther are made of High Quality ABS Plastic/and what they call "Heavy Weight" Material: Zinc powder mixed to ABS...it makes
the Replica heavier and cooler when you touch it.

"Metal"(Aluminium Alloy) Parts are all the "Small" moving parts, as welll as all the internal: trigger, thumb safety, magazine release, slide release lever, etc, barrel, bushing...magazine...
It's of course not a Colt M1911A1. It's just a $200 nice looking and VERY realistic Gas Blow-Back 6mm firing Replica...

I know that the "Colt" License, belong to a French Airsoft Company, "The 3 Pylônes". It means that everything which wears a "Colt" name MUST pass by them before.

They are using it for low quality products. It's so sad, I wish this Marketing License will be soon buy by an American Society.

I think Western Arms can use the "Colt" name, but I'm not sure...

Anyway, thank you very much for the compliments!

I have some ASG pictures of:

--Desert Eagle 50 A.E.;

--CZ75 2nd;

--Beretta U.S. M.9;

--Heckler und Koch Mark 23 Mod.0;

--SIG Sauer SP2009;

and the Ingram M11A1. But as it is a M1911 Forum, I don't want
to bother his Members showing Non-M1911 Replicas...

But, if you want to see how these Replicas look real, I can post
them, or mail them...

P.S.:The Colt M1911 scanned on the top of the page is a REAL
Colt M1911 Reproduction. Not a Replica. It could be the next Colt
product...

Have a nice day!

Best Regards,
Space Cowboy.

[Steelharp]

Where can one get Airsoft products here in the states? One of those might be fun...

Mikey D...

[Space Cowboy]

Steelharp,

I think you should try this:

http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store.html

http://www.airsoftextreme.com/gas/gasbottom.html

Please, be advised that the only good products sold in the
Gas Section are:

--WA(Western Arms);

--KSC;

--KWA;

--TM(Tokyo Marui);

--Maruzen;

Best Regards,
Jon.-Space Cowboy.

[Steelharp]

Jon, thank you... but nowhere on their site did I see one like the Colt repro you have near the top of the page; not the one at the very top, but the silverish one in the excellent pictures you took for your first reply to dsk. Where is that?

Thanks, mon ami... Mikey D...

[Space Cowboy]

Dear Mikey,


The Model showed in the pictures is a Western Arms Colt
M1911A1 "Military Model":

http://www.wa-gunnet.co.jp/english/g.../colt/8mr.html


Maybe you should ask them:

http://www.precisionairsoft.com/cat9_1.htm

http://www.nipponhobbies.com/airsoft/wa_gaspistol.htm

And here, you have a list:

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/retailers.asp

I'm almost sure they can order it for you.

Hope this help!

(Pictures from me.I will retire themif they take too long time to
download.)











P.S.: Tout le plaisir est pour moi!

Best Regards,
Jon-Space Cowboy...