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Old 04-11-2013, 07:42 AM
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For those that use Froglube, little Public Service Announcement




I know there is a lot of heated debate about FL, seems you either love it, or hate it, well on another Forum a issue has been brought up.

Froglube and Mold forming on stored guns. I am not sure about linking another forum, and i hate to copy and paste, but here is a pick and a response the OP got back form FL customer service.

here is his first post

"Last night, I opened up my P229 .22 conversion unit. It has been packed away in the case for about 3-ish months. I cleaned, and liberally lubed it with said FrogLube prior to putting it away. Did the same for the P220 unit. Below is what I found last night. They're cellphone pics, but it shows it pretty clearly. It's mold. It's fuzzy on the top and even a bit of crunch on the surface. I then took a look at the P229 itself. Again, it's been tucked away in the back of the safe since before the Holidays. Safe has plenty of dessicant in it too. Anyone else have this issue? To be fair, I'm going to contact FL with the photos and inquiry. Don't know if it's something I've done in application or something else."

here is the response he got from FL customer service.

"Got hold of their CS department. Actually pretty receptive and knew right off the bat what the deal was. It seems that I have older "legacy product" (their words) that has been reformulated to include an "anti-rancid ingrediant" (again their words). Gave me an address to send what's left of my jar (not much) and will send me a jar of "new and improved" at no cost. Told me to simply clean old stuff off gun. (duh!)

I guess the "new stuff" has a gold stripe on the label...so hurry and check yours!!"




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Old 04-11-2013, 08:04 AM
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So does that mean you can't eat the gun now?

Nope just like blue Cheese, it's good fungi, so it's safe to lick it clean.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:10 AM
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Thanks for posting that. I use Frog Lube too and love it. And I've got several safe queens and have never had that problem. Obviously I must have some newer reformulated Frog Lube.

Glad to read they were quick to respond and to offer to replace the product.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:19 AM
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:21 AM
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I thought everybody knew not to store guns in closed foam cases? You're lucky it's not covered in rust. That does not excuse the mold, though. FrogLube being an organic compound, I can see how it may support mold/mildew, etc., so there should have been a caution from the maker on the product to not seal up guns that you use it on. But if you don't seal up guns in the first place, you don't get mildew.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:21 AM
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Anytime there is a mold problem, I suspect a humidity problem.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:22 AM
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Penicillin never hurt anyone
Ummmm, only those allergic to it
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:31 AM
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Thanks for posting that. I use Frog Lube too and love it. And I've got several safe queens and have never had that problem. Obviously I must have some newer reformulated Frog Lube.

Glad to read they were quick to respond and to offer to replace the product.
i have been using FL for almost a year now, and i have the original stuff still, and never seen these issues.

I did notice a little white buildup on some crevices that i could not wipe all the froglube out of on one gun, but otherwise nothing like the pics that this guy posted.

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I thought everybody knew not to store guns in closed foam cases? You're lucky it's not covered in rust. That does not excuse the mold, though. FrogLube being an organic compound, I can see how it may support mold/mildew, etc., so there should have been a caution from the maker on the product to not seal up guns that you use it on. But if you don't seal up guns in the first place, you don't get mildew.
i actually did not know that about foam cases, need to read up on that more, but these pics are of someone elses issue i just thought some here would like to know.

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Anytime there is a mold problem, I suspect a humidity problem.
yep that is key as well, and some other posters had asked him about it.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:32 AM
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Until now the only risk using FL has been warts.
I'm sorry for that one.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:56 AM
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Anytime there is a mold problem, I suspect a humidity problem.
That's what I was thinking.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:04 AM
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Ummmm, only those allergic to it
Ahh, yes!!
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:25 AM
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Been using it on all of my firearms for over a year now. Ive never seen that. I live in New Mexico though, so moisture and mold arent really a concern.

Did it wipe off clean?
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:01 AM
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Been using it on all of my firearms for over a year now. Ive never seen that. I live in New Mexico though, so moisture and mold arent really a concern.

Did it wipe off clean?
i don't know, ill send the original poster on the other forum a e-mail.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:01 AM
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:48 AM
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:58 AM
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Attachment 97859where would I find a "stripe"?
The top half of the seal:



Actually, better yet, here is the new version of your size

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Old 04-11-2013, 12:05 PM
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I thought everybody knew not to store guns in closed foam cases? You're lucky it's not covered in rust.
I did not know this until about 2 months ago. What a mess. Felt ashamed for my neglect. Almost lost my fav 20 gauge.
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:11 PM
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I got tired of waiting for a hair dryer to heat up the parts;found that a dedicated heat-gun is the ticket.(about $10 at Harbor freight)

After 2 years use of the stuff;no "mold".

The heat gun makes the paste run down into cracks and crevices quite nicely. Never have had desire to use the high-heat setting;the low setting is damn hot and fast!

Toxic solvents can cause impotence.
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:29 PM
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Gives new meaning to the term "hair trigger" for anyone storing a gun in the gun case under the bed you are going to end up the same way. Moisture bandit. Humidity and Liberal left are the enemy of all guns.

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Old 04-11-2013, 12:44 PM
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I suggest to use one of the lubes like Milcom Tw25 that don't use an aqueous solution or just an old fashion CLP.
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:04 PM
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it'll give me an awful rash though
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:06 PM
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I thought everybody knew not to store guns in closed foam cases? .
Looks like some still don't know or are just finding out. Better they find out here by reading rather than finding out when their guns are all rusty.

Maybe they should put up a sticky saying 'Do not store guns in foam cases'.
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:16 PM
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Looks like some still don't know or are just finding out. Better they find out here by reading rather than finding out when their guns are all rusty.

Maybe they should put up a sticky saying 'Do not store guns in foam cases'.
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i learned something new today, and i have been lucky so far, but don't want to push my luck.
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Old 04-11-2013, 02:06 PM
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Wonder if the mold works on the Clapp............models. LOL jimsjinx
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