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Old 08-15-2012, 06:44 PM
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Ammo to stay away from




I'm not going to ask for the best .45 APC ammo for home defense (100 replies,100 different answers). But is there any ammo I should stay away from?
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:49 PM
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Tula. It works but so does sand paper for toilet paper..
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:44 PM
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I have not seen any primer issues in .45, but in 9mm, I know that there are a great many failed primer stories around the web (many with photo evidence) dealing with Hornady Critical Defense ammunition.

I wouldn't purchase it for SD.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:51 PM
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Tula. It works but so does sand paper for toilet paper..
Have you visited the motherland? The tp in Moscow was almost sandpaper when I visited 20 years ago!

Any steel cased ammo may wear extractors more, and they don't seem to seal as well, allowing more 'dirt' in the chamber. And then a laquered finish may leave deposits after 100 rounds or more of 'rapid fire'. At least that is my experience.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:58 PM
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I've always looked at ammo like Hollywood.

If I don't recognize the actor, I stay away from it.

Ive stuck to:

Remington
Winchester
Federal
Hornady
Probably a few other famous brands over the years.

The only thing I've learned to stay away from is stuff that is too hot. I've found super-tactical-quadruple+ ammo that practically jumps the gun out of your hand.
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:08 AM
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stay away from someone elses reloads, unless they are from a well known company.
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:30 AM
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Ammo Rule #1:

NEVER buy or shoot ammo from a country that has no potable water.

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Old 08-17-2012, 08:33 PM
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Tula. It works but so does sand paper for toilet paper..
I just don't like to run dirty steel cased ammo through my gun. Would it cycle? Yes, but it's not really that much cheaper and I just don't feel like subjecting a tool that I could trust my life to to undue punishment.
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:40 PM
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...and I just don't feel like subjecting a tool that I could trust my life to to undue punishment.

Several jokes come to mind here.
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:09 AM
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Tula .45acp is fantastic ammo and a great value. I run it by the 1000s through my 1911s with no negative issues to the pistols or any FTFs.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:07 PM
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Price is a good indicator, on both sides. If it is cheap, it might make good range ammo but is probably not good for serious use.

Likewise, if it is high, it is probably a gimmick cartridge from a gimmick company.

Well known manufacturers are another good sign. Some boutique makers may make excellent ammunition, but, its hard to buy enough to test it if you are an individual. Consider using some thing used by a major LE organization. Unfortunately, manufacturers some times make it difficult for us serfs to buy the good stuff.

There are lists of acceptable ammunition floating around the internet. That is a good place to start shopping.
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:14 PM
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Stay away from other peoples reloads and I stay away from Remington UMC. The last case I bought, they were using rifle primers, which caused pitting in the breech-face of a $2000 gun, this ruining the slide.
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:27 PM
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Stay away from other peoples reloads and I stay away from Remington UMC. The last case I bought, they were using rifle primers, which caused pitting in the breech-face of a $2000 gun, this ruining the slide.
very interesting. more info please. did you contact Remington? what is the lot number?
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:58 AM
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Frangible, snake-shot, anything that comes in boxes of less than 20 for more than $50 with names like "Extreme Shock" "Fang Face" and so forth.
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Stay away from other peoples reloads and I stay away from Remington UMC. The last case I bought, they were using rifle primers, which caused pitting in the breech-face of a $2000 gun, this ruining the slide.
Wow, that must be some real bad pitting if it ruined the slide. Most good gunsmiths I know can usually fix it...
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:31 AM
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Likewise, if it is high, it is probably a gimmick cartridge from a gimmick company.
Wait a minute. You're saying I shouldn't use that $10 per round silver-tipped, hollow point, tracer, armor piercing, exploding, TEOTWAWKI ammo I just bought???
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:53 AM
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Any Ball ammo, AMERC
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:11 AM
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Wait a minute. You're saying I shouldn't use that $10 per round silver-tipped, hollow point, tracer, armor piercing, exploding, TEOTWAWKI ammo I just bought???
Yes.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:47 AM
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I have tried a pretty wide variety of FMJ stuff and have not found any that didn't reliably go bang, Tula/Wolf/Herters steel case included. I have read that Hornady's new line of steel cased ammo is of Russian manufacture as well and infer that they would not risk their reputation if they felt steel cased was an 'issue'?

I have read a lot of negative things about AMERC but have no personal experience so can't offer a valid opinion on the stuff.

In general for target use I use my own reloads and before I took up that hobby I bought whatever was the cheapest. I do not feel unprotected using FMJ, my own reloads or most any brand of HP I've confirmed functions in my handguns.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:16 AM
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Steel is for barrels, not cases.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:35 PM
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I'm going to load-up some steel-cased fang-face .45 ammo using small primers and corrosive powder and send them to Boge for testing. *snicker*
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I'm going to load-up some steel-cased fang-face .45 ammo using small primers and corrosive powder and send them to Boge for testing. *snicker*
Oh please do.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:20 PM
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I stick with the major American names for range shooting (Federal, Winchester, Remington, & PMC).
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:02 PM
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I don't like russian and korean ammo.

I stick with Black Hills, Magtech, Remington, Winchester and Federal.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:06 PM
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For home defense, stay away from all .50BMG
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