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Old 07-14-2012, 09:20 PM
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Sig Tac ops vs kimber pro tle rl ii vs colt rail gun




Im looking to buy my first railed 1911. Looking for opinions on which of these three guns would be the best, as far as reliability and durability. I like the 4" look of the kimber but I love Colts. Never owned a sig but I hear a lot of good things about them. If anyone has any experience or pictures of their personal setups of these guns please share. Thanks
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:28 PM
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I love the new Colt Rail Gun, pretty solid piece. Im not a fan of clone 1911's, especially the others listed.
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:36 PM
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Springfield Operator....I was in the same place you were and almost pulled the trigger on the Sig TacOps or a Colt Rail Gun. Then I saw a Springfield Operator at a local gun show and compared all three from a features, fit & finish, and overall presentation. I ended up going home empty handed that day. Long story short and a couple more $$$, I ended up with a Springfield TRP Operator (Adjustable night sights, Match Bull Barrel, Magwell, Checkered front strap and MSH, etc etc etc) and never looked back!!!

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Old 07-14-2012, 10:06 PM
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Im looking to buy my first railed 1911. Looking for opinions on which of these three guns would be the best, as far as reliability and durability.
It's great to have so many railed choices. At the time I purchased my Pro TLE/RL II, there weren't as many choices available. If the Colt Railgun would have been available at the time, I probably would have bought that because I'm a huge Colt fan. However, knowing then what I know now, I'm not so sure about that, because my TLE/RL has been a very reliable pistol. It serves as my nightstand gun, eats any ammo I feed it and is a very accurate shooter.

I'm sure the Railgun, the Sig and Springfield's would be up to the task too. Which ever one you decide on, make sure you run it hard with some ball ammo, then run it even harder with your SD rounds of choice and make that gun prove worthy of defending your life before you trust it for such a critical role.

If you run into any issues, hold the manufacturer accountable and give them the opportunity to make it right. When you get the pistol back, start the torture test all over again until it runs several hundred rounds without failure. Get yourself some quality magazines too; I've had great success with Wilson 47D, Chip McCormick Power+ and Kimber Tac-Pro's.



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Old 07-14-2012, 11:10 PM
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I've always wanted the colt rail gun since seeing it at my LGS. I almost bought it a few times and now wish I did. It's price was $899 or $999, I can't remember which.
US1911, I love those grips. They stand out well.
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:16 PM
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I am going into my second year with my Colt Railgun.

It has not been trouble free, however. Most of the issues were actually me.

When it is all said and done, I carry that gun when I go out knowing it will work and can clear it fast if it did not. C Power Mags with 9 round kits round out the work.

I have worked myself and the colt so much that magazines occasionally fall apart and are scrapped. Thousands have been fired.
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:24 PM
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US1911, I love those grips. They stand out well.
Thanks Jager247, those are VZ G10 Double Diamonds in Black Desert Sand w/flat magwell cut option and MSH pin access notch.
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Old 07-15-2012, 01:51 PM
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Thanks for the thoughts guys, I'm leaning towards the kimber or colt. I guess I can't lose either way!
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:35 PM
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I'm not a big fan of acc. rails, but if I had to pick one it would be the Colt all day long.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:38 PM
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I have the Colt Rail Gun and I have nothing good to say about it out of the box. Colt's quality is nowhere near what it once was and it is very disappointing. I've written several posts about my experience so I won't rewrite it all here, but I will say I'm picking up my Springfield MC Operator tomorrow so that should tell you something...
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:04 PM
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Thanks for the thoughts guys, I'm leaning towards the kimber or colt. I guess I can't lose either way!
Do not get a kimber
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:10 PM
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I've had my Springfield Armory MC Operator for about 3 1/2 years. It is very well put together and it's quite accurate.



A Colt Rail Gun is near the top of my list.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:39 PM
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Das Siggen, 900 delivered with 5 mags and holster. Night sights, mag well, nitron coating, and on and on...
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:36 PM
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I noticed somebody above mentioned NOT to get a kimber. That's really not a very fair piece of advice, and you shouldn't let peoples personal negative bias sway you. They're fine guns, as I've had three, that are / were all phenomenal, as well as the ones that my family and friends have owned, too. I'm not a Kimber pusher or fan, just a 1911 fan in general, and in my experience, they've served great. I have had great experience with the other manufacturers as well.

Either way, I have heard issues with the newer colts, but then again I have no personal experience with any of the problems. If I let forums such as this sway what I'd buy, I'd probably never have had three Kimbers, but I have purchased them and with no regrets.

Buy whichever you decide that you like most. Besides, I'm not a gambling man, but willing to bet you'll be looking to purchase another 1911 in the next year or so after purchasing this one!
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Old 07-15-2012, 08:57 PM
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Springfield Operator....I was in the same place you were and almost pulled the trigger on the Sig TacOps or a Colt Rail Gun. Then I saw a Springfield Operator at a local gun show and compared all three from a features, fit & finish, and overall presentation. I ended up going home empty handed that day. Long story short and a couple more $$$, I ended up with a Springfield TRP Operator (Adjustable night sights, Match Bull Barrel, Magwell, Checkered front strap and MSH, etc etc etc) and never looked back!!!
At the LGS today looking for a rail gun. As above, the TRP had the nicest trigger, sharpest checkering, and to me, best overall feel. Sig Tacops, kimber, and S&W E searies all similar to each other, but in second place. I did not look at a Colt. They didn't have one. That being said, the TRP was $1,600, while the others were $1,100 to $1,200. Is there a $500 difference in quality/accuracy? Without shooting them, I don't know. but between the three non-TRP guns, I'm leaning toward the traditional Tacops.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:48 PM
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Sig or Colt in my opinion. I have never been a fan of MIM parts in a 1911 an Kimber has lots of them. Plus, after handling/manipulating Sig, Colt, Kimber, and a Springfield I decided the decision was between Colt or Sig. The sig had the best out of the box trigger and the fit was just a little better. The sig was listed at $900 at the gun show, but when I offered $800 cash they took it (yes, NIB). The Colt was listed at $1400 at another dealer and they would not budge on price. I have been very pleased with the pistol. Only this I changed was the disconnector, hammer, and sear to Wilson Combat Bullet Proof pieces and had a full trigger tune done (not needed, but wanted). I also changed the sights to the new Trijicon HD sights (again not needed, but wanted). It is a real tack driver right out of the box. Click image for larger version

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Old 07-15-2012, 09:58 PM
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I was in your same boat a few months ago, until I heard about the Dan Wesson Specialist. Its railed, has front strap checkering, no mim parts, made in America, series 70 style.

Went to the range for the first time yesterday with mine and I LOVE it! Not one issue at all. Bought mine online for $1400 + $34 shipping, you will not be disapointed.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:36 PM
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I was in your same boat a few months ago, until I heard about the Dan Wesson Specialist. Its railed, has front strap checkering, no mim parts, made in America, series 70 style.

Went to the range for the first time yesterday with mine and I LOVE it! Not one issue at all. Bought mine online for $1400 + $34 shipping, you will not be disapointed.
Great decision! A lot of nice little features, like the recess slide stop, duty grade finish, VZ grips, and Quality like Dan Wesson !
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:33 AM
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Sig or Colt in my opinion. I have never been a fan of MIM parts in a 1911 an Kimber has lots of them. Plus, after handling/manipulating Sig, Colt, Kimber, and a Springfield I decided the decision was between Colt or Sig. The sig had the best out of the box trigger and the fit was just a little better. The sig was listed at $900 at the gun show, but when I offered $800 cash they took it (yes, NIB). The Colt was listed at $1400 at another dealer and they would not budge on price. I have been very pleased with the pistol. Only this I changed was the disconnector, hammer, and sear to Wilson Combat Bullet Proof pieces and had a full trigger tune done (not needed, but wanted). I also changed the sights to the new Trijicon HD sights (again not needed, but wanted). It is a real tack driver right out of the box. Attachment 84292

You mentioned Kimbers MIM parts. Do you know what the other brands are using for the same parts?
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:43 AM
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I've got the Tac Ops and it's a great gun. Shoots well and nicely bult. Nothing to say bad about any kimber I've ever had, and I have a rail gun on order. Can't really see a way to go wrong wtih either of the 3.
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:08 AM
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Do not get a kimber
Why?
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:54 AM
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lots of blind hate for Kimbers around here, no real reason that I've been able to find yet.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:35 AM
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I love my sig NITRON RAIL. Its a good gun at a better price then some of the others mentioned.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:04 AM
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I purchased the Colt Rail Gun and have been very happy with my choice.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:33 AM
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Younger users have now Idea how the 1911's have changed. Back when I started you bought a colt, and in 6 months and 2 grand you had what you can buy today off the shelf for around 1000.00 Most of these new guns are outstanding, the ones that are not you send back and have the MFG fix them. Every one will get some back as it is impossible to have 100% trouble free guns. All of the Mfg will respond, some better than others. I can tell you that in the customer service area none are better than Wilson, but they all are good. Make sure you put 500 rounds of all kinds of ammo to the test. It just take that many rounds to break them in. I really dont think you can go wrong with any of the new 1911's, 100 years going strong! Still the best of the best! Good shooting, : shoot early, shoot often!
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