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Old 05-31-2012, 03:21 PM
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Sorry you got shot...

But they shot your '69 Camaro?? ANIMALS!!
that made me laugh, I'm still laughing. Hope you heal well OP.
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Old 05-31-2012, 05:35 PM
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Obviously shotgun slugs shouldn't be allowed at indoor ranges, at least this one. Getting hit by a slug that's bounced back is much worse than by a 148 gr. wadcutter. Slugs can be dangerous even at outdoor ranges depending on type of target and distance. Bounceback has to taken into account.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:07 PM
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never shot at a range that has steel target frames. splash will happen, nothing can be done about it. sorry guys.
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Old 06-02-2012, 08:22 AM
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Guilty as Charged....

There was a range incident where I was one of THOSE guys. I was participating at an action shooting event at an indoor range. The course of fire involved carrying a briefcase while on the move. Obviously, you have to think whenever in the presence or firearms, even more so on a hot range.

The flow of adrenaline while trying to remember the course of fire resulted in me not doing that for a split second. With my weapon in my left hand and the briefcase in my right hand, I moved to the second firing station with natural arm swing.

That resulted in my muzzle sweeping just about everybody behind me waiting for their turn and got me immediately called out for a severe ass chewing. I deserved it and said so. I was mortified at what I had done and of the potential consequences.

I often wonder what everybody thought about that incident but you can bet its something I'll never do again.

It does not feel good to look like a jackass.

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Old 06-02-2012, 08:27 AM
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This is why we wear eye protection. It's not for ejecting shells. This isn't that out of the ordinary. My range has sound absorbing material on the walls behind the shooters, and it's all peppered and torn up from stuff bouncing off the steel over the years. Just curious, if 12 ga tactical guy was shooting in a safe direction, why some of the hate towards him in the comments? I've gotten hit w/ hot lead in the ankles more than once. Learned the hard way not to pick it up w/ bare hands.
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:10 PM
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This is why we wear eye protection. It's not for ejecting shells. This isn't that out of the ordinary. My range has sound absorbing material on the walls behind the shooters, and it's all peppered and torn up from stuff bouncing off the steel over the years. Just curious, if 12 ga tactical guy was shooting in a safe direction, why some of the hate towards him in the comments? I've gotten hit w/ hot lead in the ankles more than once. Learned the hard way not to pick it up w/ bare hands.
The range is twenty-five yards and the back-stop is sand. Lots and lots of sand. I am almost positive "Mr. Tactical" hit the ceiling and that the pieces came back from some operating equipment in the ceiling. I'm pretty sure it happened when he was doing one of his no-stock "tactical" reloads with a quick follow-up shot.....that hit the ceiling. I've gotten tagged with pieces of jacket before, some to the face, no big deal. A big piece of hot slug moving as fast as this is another matter. If it was going about another 50-100 fps I'm pretty sure I'd have been in the emergency room. Spot was bleeding again earlier today.
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:14 PM
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I have never witnessed any incidents at my range but I have heard plenty of tales. When the RO's catch it they will try and educate first. If that does not seem to work they take there card and gate key.
One guy was allowing his 2 boys (like (10-12 y/o) play shoot at one another while he was shooting targets. They were using his very reel guns. RO explained the problem to him (as if he should have to) the guy said its ok they are not loaded. He was escorted off the property. IMO they should have also contacted CPS.
Glad your recovering. Dont let guys doing crap like that keep you from the range. Consult the RSO and get to the bottom of it. He may have just needed a little education. How did the woman next to you fair?
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:50 PM
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I shot at an outdoor state range in TN on highway 421 a few times. It got so crazy out there, I carried to defend myself. That is no joke my friends.

Trap shooting from the first picnic table, John Dillinger on second, tacticool tool "sniper" (200 meters) on the third and a Germen guy with a WAY overloaded mussel loader on the end. Also, people shooting pistols a mag a second at the first target - 25 yards - unable to hit the paper.

NO RO... NO CHANGE
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:11 PM
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I shot at an outdoor state range in TN on highway 421 a few times. It got so crazy out there, I carried to defend myself. That is no joke my friends.

Trap shooting from the first picnic table, John Dillinger on second, tacticool tool "sniper" (200 meters) on the third and a Germen guy with a WAY overloaded mussel loader on the end. Also, people shooting pistols a mag a second at the first target - 25 yards - unable to hit the paper.

NO RO... NO CHANGE
funny, the only time i've ever seen another soul at that range is just before hunting season
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:00 AM
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funny, the only time i've ever seen another soul at that range is just before hunting season
Have you been there in the last 3 years?
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:37 AM
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Am I paranoid for buying a VIP kevlar vest for when I am at the range? I haven't worn it yet but it seems the range is getting busier. Every now and then I see a new face that has little to no experience with little to no understanding of basic firearm safety.

RO are only present on weekends (sometimes).

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If you are even thinking about wearing body armor............well,you SHOULD be thinking about going somewhere else to shoot instead.And yes,you are paranoid.........doesn't go well with guns.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:38 PM
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Have you been there in the last 3 years?
i go about once a month(usually when i'm driving by anyway as i more often than not just shoot in my yard) generally i go on wensdays or thursdays, in the midddle of the day and rarely see anyone.

ETA: maybe i just get lucky on the times/days i go
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:56 AM
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I call them tacitfools .The few ranges in my area uasally has at least one of of them numbnuts every time i go .I don't mind guys shoothing magnums or doing double taps,but when i see some donkey going rapid fire with a glock and not hitting anything i want to walk over and kick him in the nuts
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:54 PM
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A local range here in S. Florida rents handguns, to let customers "try before you buy." The range is "supervised" by a guy looking through a glass window.

A few weeks ago a guy came in, paid for a range, rented a handgun, and bought a box of hollow points. He went to his station and loaded up. Then he placed the muzzle under his chin, pulled the trigger, and repainted the ceiling.

The range I go to is Markham Park, run by the Ft. Lauderdale parks department, and I feel very safe there. It's run like a military range. Good ratio of ROs to shooters, same process for each wave of shooting and target maintenance. No drawing from holster and no rapid fire. No monkey business whatsoever.

If you don't feel safe where you shoot, find a place where you DO feel safe. There are no second chances with firearms.
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:03 PM
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What is the reaction of the range owners?

Dont they know if someone gets hurt or killed, they will be sued for more money then they could ever dream of? Is is worth some AH's range fee to let them spray and pray on their property, maybe even shooting one of the employees?

If someone can't figure out what is going to happen when they" ol rapid fire" some pistol grip shotgun, then they are too stupid to own a firearm. It works in the movies, because it's the movies.......
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:29 AM
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First year of college, had a roommate from NYC who'd never shot a gun before. Took him out to some public land. Gave him a fairly lengthy and detailed run down on the way out, and then again when we got there with some practical instruction. As soon as I handed him the gun, he shot at something on the ground about 5 ft away. Took the majority of the ricocheted slug in my knee. Lodged between my patella and tibia. 2 surgery's later I was fine...kinda...
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:24 PM
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If the shotgunner fired wildly and caused a ricochet that hit people on the line, yes, he should be suspended for some time and told why.
But guys, complaining about hot brass at an indoor range? That's nitpicking. My stepson and I were at a new indoor range yesterday along with apparently every other father and son in Richmond, and it was raining brass. I was wearing a cap for this reason. When my son was shooting, I amused myself by picking up various pieces of it to see what the others were shooting, check for primer flow and see who had a centered firing pin. Mostly 9mm and .40S&W.
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:16 PM
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Im alittle confised.So if the shotgun had a stock there would be no chance of shrapnel?As long as the guy was using safe shooting procedures and follows range rules he has the same right to be at the range as any one else.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:56 PM
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The indoor range I go to doesn't allow AKs to be fired on the 25-yd rifle range for this exact reason.

A few idiots ruined it for everyone. Good thing I'm not an AK buff.
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:37 PM
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Glad you are safe and have spread this lesson. My thanks to the off duty cops who used to volunteer at the range near Lambs Canyon just out of Salt Lake. They were no nonsense, "Ready on the Right", ready on the left" " Is there anybody down range" Types. About the only time since I got out of the Army I felt mostly safe shooting around the public.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:49 AM
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I used to shoot at a public unsupervised range run by the Fish and Game folks. One day I showed up there, and as I was unpacking my stuff, another shooter told my I just missed the fist fight!

It seemed that there was a guy who was sighting in a lever-action deer rifle, and there was another guy shooting at the bench next to him. The guy with the lever action got done shooting and was packing up, picked up his rifle and pointed it at the concrete floor, and pulled the trigger to drop the hammer. BOOM. Put a .35 Remington into the floor right behind the other shooter, who promptly got up, looked at the big divot in the concrete, and proceeded to beat some sense into the lever-action shooter.

Last time I went to that range - I joined a private club after that.

Not to stereotype, but in my experience the worst guys for unsafe range practices were the young men that showed up with an SKS modified to accept 30-round AK magazines.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:26 PM
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Join a private club if your local range is that crazy.
Exactly. I can't speak for weekends, but I will go to the range first thing in the morning and have the place either to myself or at most, have one or two other guys there; mostly the retirees who come to hang out at the club in the mornings. It's well worth the $100 a year!
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:42 PM
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Last time I went to an outdoor range, I was on the "Pistol and Rimfire" line and the ROs let someone shooting a .223 set up just to the left of me and I was constantly getting hit by hot empties coming my way. Very distracting, but at least none were high enough to hit me in the face.
Reminds me of a LONG time ago.

I wasn't as old and responsible as I am now.

Was at a buddies farm doing some shooting and sighting in.

One of his other buddies steps up to the left of me and without warning or checking anything starts firing dropping hot brass on me, one of which went down my shirt collar. He laughed about it, thinking it was funny. There was 160 acres of ground so he didn't have to be right up beside me, or could easily have stepped to the right of me.

So a few minutes later, he was bent over with his plumbers crack showing and I fired 6 quick rounds with the Taurus .38spl I had at the time, and then dropped all 6 of the hot empties down his plumbers crack and dropped another speedloader into the pistol and shut the gate.

When the guy got done hopping around and yelling I very plainly pointed out that turn about was fair play and that he'd asked for it.

I then packed up and told my buddy the landowner that I'd just as soon never shoot with that idiot on the place and left.

There's always foolish idiots out there and they're always a danger.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:07 PM
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I have heard and seen so much stupidity that it is hard to imagine what some folks are thinking.

Last bit of range stupidity I saw? A pair of jokers at an outdoor range show up and I kid you not they are tactical tommys to a T. They came out of their truck in some cheap UTG vests, knee and elbow pads, one was rail thin and looked like he was going to collapse under and the other was obese. Drop leg holsters, looked like Glocks with tactical flashlights (the cheap Just off the boat from China deals) an SKS, an AK that had both seen better days, one had a revolver sticking down the front of his pants. They were festooned with gunshow bargain-basement knives, morale patches from websites, and yes their urban camo BDU pants were tucked into surplus combat boots circa the 1970's.

I was already clearing out and another gent was planning on sticking around until he saw them and he just rolled his eyes, looked at me, shook his head, and started packing his range box as well. Those same idiots got banned from using the range through the local club, I guess they got caught running downrange and shooting past each other a few months later. The official story is they were preparing for the end of the world/zombies/the next Justin Bieber album.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:11 PM
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Not to stereotype, but in my experience the worst guys for unsafe range practices were the young men that showed up with an SKS modified to accept 30-round AK magazines.[/QUOTE]

I guess mines ok huh it takes 20round mags for a SKS. It also has a M4 type stock.I've seen quite a few other modified SKS owners and never had a problem with any of them. Def not my fav weapon but would use it if needed. And my AR or M17 wasn't around.

I would hate to have to deal with people like that.i have had a one older guy at my local indoor range scare me by sweeping the room with his Ruper LCP. Then seen him in my CWP class the next week. He failed. Poor guy. Shoulda got a mans gun. The ruger is ok for a back up but I'm sure he would have had beetter luck with a larger handgun.

My local indoor range which I'm a member doesn't allow rapped fire,or drawing a weapon but other than that not really that strict. They have two ranges both 25-35 yds. The normally only open the front range. They rent the back one for classes. But do use it sometimes when crowded but not always. Both are 8 bays wide with automatic steel target hangers. I have seen splash back if too close.it has video camera s but no RO to say of and only say something if they here you rapid firing. The back wall is glass.
My other range is at a state park open from sunrise to sunset with a ranger that patrols but I've never seen one. They have a covered firing line with 10-12 nicedoubleb shooting benches with a 25 yd berm and a 100 yd 20 ft tall berm ( cut outta a hill). Ive just started using this one but so far opts not been too crowded except the first time me and my buddy took our kids and got they are a saterday morning to find 20-30 bickers with one suv caring a butt load of guns. They was just shooting the s#*t and packing up thank god. But only bc it would have been full and noisy trying to teach my girls too shoot. Instead they was cool and before we left my ten yr old daughter had emptied a magazine on my AR and I'll never forget the smile on both our faces. I knew I had found my new shooting partner and her a new hobby.

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To the OP glad you wasn't hurt worse. Do you mean a pistol grip shotgun or one with no stock at all ? Just wanted to clear that up. Thanks
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