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Old 04-30-2012, 07:43 PM
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1937 Colt National Match Swartz Safety




Colt Prewar National Match with the Swartz Safety 1 gun shippment 11-23-37
Original Factory condition the forward top of the polished chamber area marked with a 2 & 0






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Old 04-30-2012, 07:55 PM
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Sigh...
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:29 PM
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Double sigh . . .
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:33 PM
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Very Nice. Thank you for posting. This is one of those on my wish list.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:45 PM
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Outstanding!
Thanks for posting this beauty.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:48 PM
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Now that is beautiful! Thanks for sharing! I've always found the Swartz safety to be an intriguing design. Have you ever removed the MSH and looked at the hammer strut? It's supposed to be highly polished also.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:52 PM
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This is like seeing an absolute drop-dead gorgeous female walk into the room, and being reminded that your chances of ever going out with her are absolutely zilch.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:55 PM
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This is like seeing an absolute drop-dead gorgeous female walk into the room, and being reminded that your chances of ever going out with her are absolutely zilch.
One can dream...
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:15 PM
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Note the NM used a "rejected" military frame.. Colt was notorious for rejecting good government owned parts and which would then would show up in Government Models.....
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:22 PM
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What is the source of that information? The gun has a commercial serial number in the known NM range.

OP you're a lucky guy. A lot of them had the Swartz safety removed
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:45 PM
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I've seen way too many G-marked commercial frames to believe that they were all government contract rejects.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:57 AM
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Beautiful Gun I have one too, but not in the same league! The G may just mean it was a Government over run frame. Not necessarily rejected.
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:33 AM
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It is well documented that Colt was chastised more than once for rejecting servicable government owned parts and then using them in Government Models from the beginning of production.... Clawson is my source for the info...... In fact, the government changed their inspection procedures to prevent Colt from doing this..

Colt had a long history of this practice. Colt was doing this even when they were building Single Action Armys and most likely when they were producing Models of 1851 Navy and 1861 Armys!!!!!!! They threw NOTHING away. Most of the post war Government Models in 1946 and 1947 were built of the remaining military post contract parts!!!

I am not meaning to cast aspursions on this BEAUTIFUL and desirable Colt NM, just adding historical trivia!!! Colt ran a very successful business, and they just took advantage of every opportunity to save money and were forceful with their cost control....

BTW, the Government is, by it's very nature, has and always be inefficient, more so RIGHT NOW, and going downhill fast... Every contractor steals from their Government contracts!!!! However, the biggest thieves are the politicians.....

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Old 05-01-2012, 08:34 AM
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Nothin wrong with a history lesson!!!! Thanks John!!!
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:48 AM
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Many Thanks fellow collectors for your wonderful comments there is nothing like the polished finish on prewar O frame autos thats catches my eyes, the hammer has the safety notch I did not take a pic of it when apart I have another that I would like to share prewar NM sent to the U.S. Army
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:56 PM
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Awesome pistol Rich! Pics are great too. What do you think the numbers on the barrel hood are for? Have you seen this on any others?
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:58 PM
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Mike, I have never seen numbers stamped on top of the chamber look at the picture info from
Clawson the government models prior to 190000 only a few pistols had the new safety device
installed this is one of those early few swarty safety pistols this happens to be a NM


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Old 05-01-2012, 06:02 PM
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Here is my fathers 1940 Government Model. He was the sheriff of San Patricio County, Texas from 1940 until his death in June 1946, at which time, my mother was appointed sheriff to serve out his term... This Colt was given to him when he was elected as sheriff by Rob Welder a famous South Texas rancher... In fact, I took my first deer on the Welder ranch when I was 11 in 1943....

The first time I shot this Colt was when I was about 8 years old...

It does NOT have the Swartz Safety installed...



I had it restored and engraved by my long time friend, the late Bill Adair.. The original slide was damaged, and dad sent the gun back to Colt to be repaired. They replaced it....




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Old 05-01-2012, 06:17 PM
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John, nice job and engraving on your fathers pistol those 2 badges are really nice as well
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:24 PM
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John, nice job and engraving on your fathers pistol those 2 badges are really nice as well
Thanks, not many can claim that BOTH their parents were Texas sheriffs!!!
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:31 PM
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Stambaugh Hardware-I havent heard that name in a few years. I grew up in the Steubenville Ohio area and there was a Stambaughs there. I believe it closed up in the mid 1980's. I dont remember if they sold guns at ours or not. I bet you have one of the very first pistols with the Swartz componets, very cool.
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:31 PM
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Thanks for posting the picture of the Swartz Safety. It is the first picture I have ever seen of one in my life. I have heard of it but never a picture in alot of years around 1911's and Colt's. Maybe one day I can see one in person and hold it, That would be special enough, owning it I wouldn't even dream of.
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:49 PM
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Thanks for posting the picture of the Swartz Safety. It is the first picture I have ever seen of one in my life. I have heard of it but never a picture in alot of years around 1911's and Colt's. Maybe one day I can see one in person and hold it, That would be special enough, owning it I wouldn't even dream of.
I just posted a 1940 GM with a swarty safety boxed
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:39 PM
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Ok here is my Swartz safety National Match, not in the same league as the previously shown mint ones! Like the Holbrook pistol, mine was damaged, except it was the frame on mine. So, I replaced it with another, it was not done by Colt. It does have the Swartz safety in the slide (numbered 194799), but I had to use a regular firing pin to work with that non-Swartz frame. I also retained the Gov't lanyard loop and used a pre-WWI short hammer and slide stop only because I like them! It is an original finish Colt Government Model frame from 1928 (took 20 years to find one cheap!). All the other hand honed National Match Parts fit and work extremely well together in there. Makes a great shooter now!



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Old 05-01-2012, 07:54 PM
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]Thanks, not many can claim that BOTH their parents were Texas sheriffs!!![/QUOTE]

Ya John that is some very pretty impressive parents
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