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Old 04-20-2012, 07:29 AM
La Grenouille La Grenouille is offline
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Anti-2A Bank of America and McMillan




Courtesy of McMillan's Facebook page:

McMillan Fiberglass Stocks, McMillan Firearms Manufacturing, McMillan Group International have been collectively banking with Bank of America for 12 years. Today Mr. Ray Fox, Senior Vice President, Market Manager, Business Banking, Global Commercial Banking came to my office. He scheduled the meeting as an “account analysis” meeting in order to evaluate the two lines of credit we have with them. He spent 5 minutes talking about how McMillan has changed in the last 5 years and have become more of a firearms manufacturer than a supplier of accessories.
At this point I interrupted him and asked “Can I possible save you some time so that you don’t waste your breath? What you are going to tell me is that because we are in the firearms manufacturing business you no longer what my business.”
“That is correct” he says.
I replied “That is okay, we will move our accounts as soon as possible. We can find a 2nd Amendment friendly bank that will be glad to have our business. You won’t mind if I tell the NRA, SCI and everyone one I know that BofA is not firearms industry friendly?”
“You have to do what you must” he said.
“So you are telling me this is a politically motivated decision, is that right?”
Mr Fox confirmed that it was. At which point I told him that the meeting was over and there was nothing let for him to say.

I think it is import for all Americans who believe in and support our 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms should know when a business does not support these rights. What you do with that knowledge is up to you. When I don’t agree with a business’ political position I can not in good conscience support them. We will soon no longer be accepting Bank of America credit cards as payment for our products.

Kelly D McMillan
Director of Operations
McMillan Group International, LLC
623-582-9635
www.mcmillanusa.com

Your thoughts?

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Old 04-20-2012, 07:34 AM
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Just like Barrett not delivering .50 rifles to the military in CA. They are against the law in CA so he makes them come and pick them up.

Support with your money, the people who support what you believe in.
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Old 04-20-2012, 07:44 AM
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You know what ten bankers sinking to the bottom of the ocean is? A good start!!!!
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:05 AM
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Just like Barrett not delivering .50 rifles to the military in CA. They are against the law in CA so he makes them come and pick them up.

Support with your money, the people who support what you believe in.
I don't think that was the military in California, Bill. I believe you're referring to the LEA's in California.

Regardless, you're 100% correct that we need to put our money towards those who support what we believe in.

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Old 04-20-2012, 09:14 AM
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It is disturbing to me that a company would lose a client over what that client's legally made and sold product is. What next, no BOA for Coor's Beer? This country is going to hell in a hand basket, quickly.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:25 AM
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It is disturbing to me that a company would lose a client over what that client's legally made and sold product is. What next, no BOA for Coor's Beer? This country is going to hell in a hand basket, quickly.
I personally wish B of A would lose ALL of their clients.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:15 PM
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Just like Barrett not delivering .50 rifles to the military in CA. They are against the law in CA so he makes them come and pick them up.

Support with your money, the people who support what you believe in.
Not the military, once the service acquires something they can take it any damn where they please.

Ronnie Barret refuses to sell any Barret products to any California agency as they banned .50 Caliber rifles. This extends to law enforcement and not the service.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:23 PM
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My bad.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:29 PM
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All I have to say is GOOD for McMillan, and GOOD for Barret. And I live in Ca.
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:21 PM
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After this, at the end of the month I will close down my two BOFA accounts.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:57 PM
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Bank of America Refused to Continue Business with Gun Manufacturer McMillan

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Old 04-20-2012, 11:02 PM
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Why anybody would do business with BoA in the first place is beyond me...
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:04 PM
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That level of incompetence on BofAs part at a time like this is simply amazing. It's one thing to take a stand for something, but its another entirely to be a martyr with other peoples cash.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:14 PM
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Sign of the times. They are a huge operation and there could be several reasons for this, none being McMillan's fault. Sorry guys, but unless their sales are in the 8 digits then BoA probably doesn't care. They are not known for banking with the little guy. Most likely, McMillan will be better served by another national bank.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:15 PM
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Funny how sometimes things get quickly overlooked. A fellow here seems to already know a thing or two about this topic: http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=363802



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Old 04-21-2012, 12:08 AM
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Well this makes it easy.I had a very small saving account with them that I was thinking of closing,time to do it now.They were pretty much fired by me after the 2008 crash anyway.
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:05 AM
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BoA also was the first to allow illegals to open Bank accounts without ID. I useful tool for drug dealing money launderers. Now they are bashing pro Gun businesses.
Stay away from them and their credit card business which has a different name.I forget ?
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:10 AM
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Funny Mc Millan did not seem to mind that BoA opens bank accounts for illegals with out proper ID. Which makes it a haven for money launderers.
But now they are offended.LOL
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:14 AM
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Few few years back an accountant friend of mine referred to Bank of America as "the IRS Bank". That was enough to for me to steer clear.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:20 AM
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Well, just to play devil's advocate, its your business/product, financial or firearm and you can sell to whomever it is legal to. Conversely you can also refuse to sell to whomever you do not want to. Thats the way it works, if they don't like it, file a lawsuit.

I've been there done that when I was on the job and a store would refuse to sell a product to customer X. -and- I've seen people go to jail because it ain't right. You lose.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:47 AM
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Do you think if I let B of A know I'm a gun nut they will throw away my mortgage?



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Old 04-21-2012, 09:58 AM
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My bad.
Nah, don't feel so bad. The only reason I know this is because my dad's friend Bruce's son Nick took a helluva shot on a boogey man in Afghanistan...something to the tune of 1.3 miles. He's eaten lunch with the VP, been on a discovery channel show on the Barret company, gotten to shoot with Ronnie Barret, and is likely going to SHOT show in a year or so as guests of the Barrets...who I guess are some pretty friendly folks.

I for one refuse to live in California and now I refuse to use Bank of America now and I'm glad I pulled my account and went with a local credit union a few years back.
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:08 AM
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Funny Mc Millan did not seem to mind that BoA opens bank accounts for illegals with out proper ID. Which makes it a haven for money launderers.
But now they are offended.LOL
It was actually Bank of America wanted to issue credit cards without recording social security numbers or other identifying info. This was post 9/11 and it would appeal to not just illegals, but terrorists, as well. They were going to charge extremely high interest rates on them. Publicity and some pressure from the Feds shut that down.

I've had my own dealings in the past with BoA and will never deal with them again. Good for McMillan!
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:32 AM
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That foul. I had a bad experience with B of A. now i am with some other bank. why do care as long as you are in regulation and paying your taxes and everything is in complanice. B of A kick me out because of my money order machine and i have been with them for the past 7 years berfore that doing it all the same.
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:54 AM
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Do you think if I let B of A know I'm a gun nut they will throw away my mortgage?



They probably already sold your mortgage the week you signed the papers.
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