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Old 03-26-2012, 11:12 AM
SW686man SW686man is offline
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Anyone reload 200 grain lead round nose-flat point?




Hello everyone,

Just looking for .45 load data as our loading manual doesnt have this specific bullet listed in it, and we have about 800 bullets (palmface).


Looking for these two values:


OAL: ?
UNIQUE charge: ? (was thinking about 5.5 grains)
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:27 AM
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the bullet shape is unimportant if it feeds.

Use data for 200 gr lead semi wadcutters. It's the weight of the bullet and it's construction (jacketed or lead) that counts.

Just curious, why did you pick that bullet shape?
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:26 PM
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I bought a box of that style when I ordered bullets the last time. Buddy has an XD which really doesn't care for SWC's.

I always use the plunk test for determining seating depth but I think it was right in the 1.255 area IIRC
I've loaded it in various combinations of W231 from 4.5-5.2gr. they all worked, but the lighter loads tended to leave deposits in the chamber.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:45 PM
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5.5 could be pretty light, but that hinges on OAL somewhat. You'll have to determine OAL for that bullet shape and you chamber cut. So load some dummy rounds (start around 1.25-6) and run a plunk test. Get your OAL set where the dummy round falls freely into and out of your pistol's chamber, then work on your powder charge. Assuming you come up with an OAL of around 1.22-1.26, I would start with a load closer to 6 gr of Unique. Just check a couple of manuals and adjust your start load as necessary for your OAL.
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:57 PM
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I just got some 200gr LRNFP's from Mastercast to try. For 200gr cast SWC's I was using 5.8gr of Unique. And contrary to popular opinion the new Unique was fairly clean burning.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:09 PM
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I use the MBC Cowboy #4 lead RNFP exclusively in my Colt Rail Gun.
I have never had a failure to feed or any leading.
I use 5.2gn of HP38 at 1.195 OAL. Very accurate for me.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:23 PM
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Alot of barrels require a 1.200" OAL for the 200gr rnfp such as my 5" xd45 and just a little more will fit in my sig p220. The "plunk test" described elsewhere will affirm what oal you need to use.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:07 AM
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1.22 seems to be a pretty long OAL to me, I'll have to try it and see what happens.

I was more concerned with the powder charge to be honest. Right now it's set at 5.5 grains, unique

Is that to light of a charge?
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:52 PM
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the bullet shape is unimportant if it feeds.

Use data for 200 gr lead semi wadcutters. It's the weight of the bullet and it's construction (jacketed or lead) that counts.

Just curious, why did you pick that bullet shape?
We picked up 1000 of them because they were cheap. I totally regret it because they are causing me a headache all over saving $25. Usually I just load 230 LRN which are easy peasy.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:20 PM
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We picked up 1000 of them because they were cheap. I totally regret it because they are causing me a headache all over saving $25. Usually I just load 230 LRN which are easy peasy.
I hear ya brother.

I have cost myself more time and money trying to do something the inexpensive way.....

Probably why I have a Norinco with over $2K invested.....
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:31 AM
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RNFP bullets

Load them all the time in ACP. Any 200 grain data is fine I assume you are using cowboy bullets? If so, just seat them a hair past the crimp groove and you will be ok...I use the same adjustment for 230 hardball and it seats about right....but check and check again!
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:19 AM
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all barrel chambers are somewhat unique and the plunk test totally rules! adjust the load spex from that vantage point and you'll be good to go. bullet type (lead or jacketed) and mass weight matter most.
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:53 AM
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I use 200 grain rnfp all the time,no harder than any other bullet to load with.I followed the advice of a fella with 2 guns like mine,all 3 Norinco's.He seats to 1.240 which is right at the bottome of the the crimp groove.Zero problems with it,and we get them for 66.00/k from a local supplier.Our guns also fees swc's fine,so gonna order those next for ROUND holes in the target,lol.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:41 AM
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for me, it's not at all about the bullet shape, it's about if it will reliably feed in my 1911.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:25 PM
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I have that bulllet in a Lee. Load 5.9 gr. 231. Averages about two inches from 37 yards in a Ransom Rest.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:16 PM
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Not really alot of choice where to seat the 200 lrnfp. Most commercial cast 200 lrnfp's are reduced dia in front of the crimp groove, and there is precious little shank for proper interference fit. 1.240 sound about right and would up the powder charge over standard 200 lswc as there is more space left in the case, and less shank.

200 lrnfp, 1.238-1.240 col, fed 150 primer, lee under size die, 5 inch Sa TM

5.2 hp-38 = bout 780 fps
5.5 hp-38 = bout 820 fps best of hp-38 tested
5.7 hp-38 = bout 840 fps
5.9 hp-38 = bout 870 fps

6.3 unique = 810 fps
6.5 unique = 860 fps
6.7 unique = 900 fps best load of bunch in Ruger BH, 625 mt gun and SA Trophy Match
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:46 PM
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I've loaded an Oregon Trail 200gr RNFP in .45 Auto Rim for my revolvers. The bullet is intended for .45 Colt and has a cannelure. COAL of 1.185" with a roll crimp into the cannelure (DON'T do that for a semi-auto pistol - taper crimp to "de-bell" case mouth only). 5.4 grains of W-231 was most accurate in two different revolvers. Average speed of just over 700 fps in my Model 25, but the cylinder throats are w-a-y oversized and that would slow things down.
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:57 AM
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I've loaded Rainier 200 gr flat points with Unique and 231. The 231 seems to work better for me. You might try 5.8 gr. Unique, and an oal of 1.220-1.230, should be mild and accurate.
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:59 AM
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Missouir Bullet Co. RNFP 200gr was what I shot for a while...

Loaded them to around 1.20-1.21" OAL... the "crimp groove" stuck up past the case mouth at this length, but it works fine.

I first started loading them at 1.85-1.90" and would get jam... seating them longer solved the problem.

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