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Old 03-21-2012, 12:38 PM
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Defender beaver tail recommendations




I just bought a new Colt Defender in .45 ACP, and it came with the duck bill grip safety. I am thinking about changing it to a beaver tail grip safety, and I would like some recommendations.

The Colt site lists the current Defender as having an upswept beaver tail grip safety (Grip Safety, Defender .SP574461) and I am wondering if this would be a drop in part for mine with the duck bill safety. Or are there other choices that are preferable?

Thanks for any recommendations.
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Old 03-21-2012, 02:43 PM
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Curious. I have a Defender with the duckbill and love it. Is it hurting your hand or? I would have Colt do it and save all the paper work if you have to have the upswept one.
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:31 PM
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Curious. I have a Defender with the duckbill and love it. Is it hurting your hand or? I would have Colt do it and save all the paper work if you have to have the upswept one.
No, it doesn't hurt...it really is more of a preference. With the duck bill, my grip doesn't feel quite as comfortable as it does with my other 1911s that have the upswept beavertail, but I haven't shot it yet, so I can't say how much difference there is with actual fire.
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:34 PM
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:32 PM
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In the Colt Defender World I have both. A 2010 9mm on top an older 2002 .45 ACP on the bottom. The grips have been changed on both of course.

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Old 03-21-2012, 07:08 PM
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i used a wilson combat dropin ,as i didnt want to modify the frame.
not perfect fit, but much better than the duckbill.

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Old 03-21-2012, 07:43 PM
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In the Colt Defender World I have both. A 2010 9mm on top an older 2002 .45 ACP on the bottom. The grips have been changed on both of course.

Is the one on top a Colt OEM beaver tail?
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:17 PM
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Wilson makes a "carry" beavertail that's shorter and narrower than most. If it's in their Bulletproof line it will be pricey. You can, of course, recontour any beavertail to your liking.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:31 PM
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Wilson makes a "carry" beavertail that's shorter and narrower than most. If it's in their Bulletproof line it will be pricey. You can, of course, recontour any beavertail to your liking.
YOU perhaps can, but I can't...my best efforts would qualify as felony gun abuse.

That's another issue...finding a good gunsmith in my area of the woods has been a frustrating undertaking. I've been calling some in my local area, but none of them are taking on work right now, or they are so far behind they might as well not be taking in any more work. I can send it to Colt, but I was hoping to get it done locally to avoid the cost of shipping, and of course the time out of my hands.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:39 PM
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Here's your best solution and don't forget the "fitting jig", it makes the job very easy.

http://www.smithandalexander.com/gripsafety.html
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:44 AM
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Except for the grips the 2010 9mm is how I bought it new that year. Of course it had the wrap around Houge grips on it.
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:21 AM
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i put a Wilson drop in on my Talo XS New Agent, fit really nicely and it sure went in easily enough. Very happy and I imagine it would work as well on the Defender.
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:28 AM
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I did the Wilson drop-in. The fit is surprisingly close for a "drop-in". I will be fitting an actual high grip beavertail to it but am waiting until I can send the frame off for anodizing after fitting. I have a Night Defender and the whole two-tone thing is wearing on me, I'd prefer the whole thing be black/blue.

I completely understand the dislike for the duckbill, I believe those who use a higher grip have a hard time with it.
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Old 03-22-2012, 11:31 AM
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I completely understand the dislike for the duckbill, I believe those who use a higher grip have a hard time with it.
That, other than aesthetics, is my concern...while I have yet to fire the Defender, in gripping it and dry fire, it just doesn't feel as comfortable as do my other 1911s with the beaver tail grip.

I am going to shoot it before I change it...just to make certain...on the odd chance that I do like it as is, during live fire. It will be a while before I can do that, based on some personal circumstances.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:18 AM
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The duckbill is the only reason I didn't buy the Defender at my LGS. It dug into my hand. The OP was the question I wanted to ask myself so thanks for posting.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:41 AM
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I'd agree with 69hdfl. I fit the S&A. I was a bit hesitant at first, but it came out OK. It was my first beavertail fitting job, so I'd go at it a bit different next time and I'm sure I'd only get better with practice, but I did a fairly decent job for my first try.
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:54 PM
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It's on a Commander frame but I love the fit and feel of my S & A grip safety.

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Old 03-24-2012, 08:21 PM
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Nole:

That, my friend; is a very well done carry pistol!

Take care,

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Old 03-24-2012, 09:39 PM
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That, my friend; is a very well done carry pistol!

Take care,

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Thank you Sir! Although I can only take a little credit most of it should go to the smith, Wayne Bergquist in Naples, FL. I gave him the parts and he fitted them together. Precisely I may add....
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:32 PM
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Wayne is a good man...

I lived in Naples before moving to Charleston, SC almost 7 years ago. I met Wayne at the Babcock- Webb range in Charlotte County. We were shooting side by side one day, he had his gun box full of 1911's. He admired a Remington Rand GI I had at the time. He asked to see it, of course I said yes. He proceeded to field strip it and inspect it before reassembling it all very expertly and quickly. He had a great shop in the industrial area N. of Pine Ridge Rd. Is he still there ? If you are close enough to Naples, you would do well having him work on your 1911's IMHO. Good shooting...
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Old 07-18-2012, 05:12 PM
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I,AM fixing to send my new colt defender up for a btgs, short trigger-4-5lb pull crisp no creep, night sights, accurizeing, extended mag release,arched metal msh, serrate front strap & carry bevel treatment. just emailed brent a minute ago.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:04 PM
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For anybody who might have reservations about gap from using a Wilson drop in safety, they tend to fit tons better on Colt frame tangs. They were probably designed with Colt's profile in mind.
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