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View Poll Results: Which Henry.
Henry Big Boy 44 mag. 14 31.82%
Henry Big Boy 45 colt. 13 29.55%
Henry 45-70. 17 38.64%
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:20 PM
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Henry rifles. Help me decide. Big Boy/45-70.




Hey yall, been a while since I've posted here but I'm on the fence about which Henry repeater I want to get when I get my taxes back. I've got it down to two options. The Henry Big Boy in 44 mag or the new Henry 45-70. I really want the brass receiver and octogone barrel of the big boy but I really want the power and cool factor of the 45-70. The Big Boy also comes in 45 colt so I'm gonna throw it in the poll too.
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:29 PM
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Big Boy.

http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-big-boy.cfm



45-70.



http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-45-70.cfm
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:33 PM
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I voted for the .44 mag because I have a couple revolvers in .44 and the ammo. I try to not have all of my firearms in different calibers and try to stick to firearms of those calibers.
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:42 PM
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44 mag for availability of ammo and cost, also to be able to shoot 44spl.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:01 PM
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.44 mag, im not a fan of their .45-70, just doesnt look right to me
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:16 PM
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I voted .45-70 because I like BIG HEAVY BULLETS. Why shoot a pistol cartridge in a rifle???...Kinda like an AR in 9mm - makes no sense to me.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:18 PM
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Have you held the 45-70?
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:20 PM
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Harry, I feel the exact same way about the 44 mag. It is more powerful than the 45 colt.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:59 AM
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I'm going to be the bad guy I guess.

Take that money and get a Marlin Cowboy. Same octagon barrel. Stronger frame. There's a reason reloading manuals list "Marlin only" ammo. There's also a reason Henry rifles don't load from the side like a classic levergun. The frame apparently doesn't hold up if they put the hole there (the answer I got when I asked a competent smith who works only on leverguns and revolvers, and I believe it because, well, it makes sense).

The action is going to be smoother as well. I had the Henry in 45 Colt. Never again. Sold it, bought two Marlin Cowboy Limited rifles, and never regretted it.

Also: If you're talking strictly the factory junk they pass off as 45 Colt, and what's readily available, the 44 mag factory ammo is more powerful. Load the 45 Colt the way it was intended, the way they did when the west was still wild, and it's a monster. There's a reason that casing looks like a little garbage can. It used to be full of powder.

For someone looking to buy ammo at Gander Mtn, stick with the 44 or 357. If you reload, there's a lot of playing room with the 45 Colt. Just a big investment to get the brass for reloading.

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Old 01-21-2012, 07:12 AM
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_b...1894C_1873.htm

I vote for Marlin also. (I think modern Henry's are truly ugly, but it's just an opinion).

A 45-70 in a light(er) lever gun is going to have an un-fun KICK (although I guess you could use "cowboy action loads). You can kill deer with a .45 colt or .44 mag with no problem whatsoever.
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:28 AM
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Have you held the 45-70?
Yes it is big and heavy; and in the Henry - it is not my "cup of tea"...but you seem to be a "Henry" fan - and I guess you have your reasons for that...an assumption I am making based on your "handle". I have only shot small Henrys - never a .45-70...i doubt it is something I would want to do all day. But if it were me I would prefer the BIG Bullet in a rifle. Capability / size of a rifle should not be limited with a pistol cartridge. That said, I own a .44Mag M94 Trapper... I justified the purchase because of my love affair with the Mod 29...but the idea of a rifle / pistol cartridge combo is not high on my lists as a good idea...my thought is: The rifle has a purpose...and the pistol has a purpose / and they are different...and I am happy with buying two different types of ammo.

You did not mention what use you were considering the cartridge / rifle to be used for so I defaulted to .45-70 - because it is a rifle. but if you are doing cowboy, plinking or letting kids and ladies shoot it then i would get it in .44mag because of options that that cartridge gives you, as well as, brass/economy. What pistols do you also already have (or plan on getting) would be a factor i would use to help me make this decision.

I would get the Marlin in .45-70.

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Old 01-21-2012, 10:19 AM
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I've had rifles in all three calibers. The .44 & .45 revolver cartridges carbines are fun and cool, especially if you have a revolver in the same chambering. They're not bad field guns so long as the ranges are held to 1oo yards or so. As a practical carbine however, they pale in comparison to a good 30-30 which provides about twice the useful range. I think if I was going to fiddle with lever-pistol I'd get a .357 Magnum. It's got enough of about everything good you can get from one of these and with .38's, it's sort of a big 22. The Rossi 92 clones are my platform of choice in all of them.

The 45-70 is a wonderful old cartridge which, even in its original state, can handle anything found where the stars and stripes fly. My current pick would, again, be Rossi's offering. I like Marlins in general (if I can't get a Winchester) but I won't have anything except old ones.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:35 AM
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Great stuff guys. I'm really disappointed with the caliber selection in the Big Boy andI would really much rather have the 45-70. I will be using it primarily for whitetail hunting. I'll also eventually reload for whatever rifle I get. I've got a american classic 1911 I reload for now so it won't be a huge leap to start reloading for either one. I like the marlin lever guns a lot. I've already got a marlin in 30-30. The draw of the big boy for me is all in the looks of the bras and barrel. I really hate the idea of a rifle shooting pistol ammo as well and I guess I'd prefer the 45 colt to the 44 mag but putting that much money in it and expecting to hunt with it I want the most powerful thing I can get.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:55 AM
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if were adding marlins into the equation im changing my vote to .45-70
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Old 01-21-2012, 04:32 PM
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I'm starting to really consider the marlin option. I've already got a marlin 30-30. The Marlin Cowboy in 45-70 has really got me rethinking the Henry thing.
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Looks like the Marlin Cowboy is no longer being made.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:39 PM
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Marlin Guide gun with some Garret ammo in case a circus elephant goes on the rampage in your neighborhood.http://www.garrettcartridges.com/4570exitertech.html
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Man and I was blown away by garret's $80/20 stuff.
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Alright yall. I decided to go with a marlin 45-70. I didn't want a new one made by remington so I looked around and found a good 09 model that looks brand new. It's on layaway right now so I should have it out in a few weeks. its a strnoaight grip 1895g blued guide gun.
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you will have fun with that one, i shot a relatives guide gun in .45-70 a few years ago, fast little saddle gun with a nice big bore
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I have thought of the pistol/rifle ammo combo and have come to the conclusioni that it would either be the .357 or the .500SW in a 500Mag/Big Horn combo.
I already have 2 .357 686s and 1 .500 SW revolver.
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I'm going to be the bad guy I guess.

Take that money and get a Marlin Cowboy. Same octagon barrel. Stronger frame. There's a reason reloading manuals list "Marlin only" ammo. There's also a reason Henry rifles don't load from the side like a classic levergun. The frame apparently doesn't hold up if they put the hole there (the answer I got when I asked a competent smith who works only on leverguns and revolvers, and I believe it because, well, it makes sense).

The action is going to be smoother as well. I had the Henry in 45 Colt. Never again. Sold it, bought two Marlin Cowboy Limited rifles, and never regretted it.

Also: If you're talking strictly the factory junk they pass off as 45 Colt, and what's readily available, the 44 mag factory ammo is more powerful. Load the 45 Colt the way it was intended, the way they did when the west was still wild, and it's a monster. There's a reason that casing looks like a little garbage can. It used to be full of powder.

For someone looking to buy ammo at Gander Mtn, stick with the 44 or 357. If you reload, there's a lot of playing room with the 45 Colt. Just a big investment to get the brass for reloading.
I agree. I like the Henry, came close to buying one of their Golden Boys this weekend but passed. Pretty as heck, the trigger was terrible though. One of my Marlins is the 1894 Cowboy with octagon barrel in 45 Colt. Peep rear sight, Lyman 17 globe up front and accurate as heck.

Regarding the 45 Colt cartridge, the 1894 will handle the "Ruger and T/C" level reloads and push a 240 grain bullet at 1,500 fps. That's pretty good.

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I did a lot of shopping around, comparing, reading, thinking, and left all my brand loyalty at the door. I kept coming back to the marlin tho. I believe the real marlin not the new remington are the finest lever action rifles clambered in 45-70 money can buy off the shelf. its such a shame the name and quality have been thrown in the trash by remington. I never would have believed remington could put out the quality of product they have been peddling under the name marlin. yall might find it hard to believe some of the things I've read about them.
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I voted .45-70 because I love the .45-70 Govt cartridge. I have two Marlin 1895 Guide Guns.
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I would go with the Marlin also in a 45/70, unless you can find a Browning 1886 in a 45/70.


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