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Old 01-10-2012, 11:55 PM
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New STI DUTY ONE




Just signed for it today have to wait 10 more days. Worst decision I made was I sold my colt xse about 6 months back. Gun had some custom work done to it from Night Hawk. Thing was amazing. Im hoping this will be just as amazing! This is my second 1911. I think Im doing something wrong to already have one at this level but what ever! This will not be a safe queen!

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Old 01-11-2012, 12:02 AM
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Very nice! Just curious, what did you have done to it?

I was under the impression that the Duty One had a bull barrel. From your pic it looks like there is a barrel bushing. Or maybe its just the angle...

Heinie rear sight? Nice. I like those, and a couple of my carry guns have the Slant Pro's.

I'll bet it is a shooter. Got more pics?
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:17 AM
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Bought it used from the first owner who supposedly only put 50 rounds through it. Looks new so I think he was telling the truth. I will take better pics when I pick it up next week. Any one know how light you can get the trigger pull on these?
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:21 AM
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After looking at other pics of this model I see what you mean. Hopefully its nothing! Other wise a good lesson of know what your buying!
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:26 AM
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Any one know how light you can get the trigger pull on these?
Just how light do you want to go? A competent gunsmith can easily get it into the 2 lb range, or even less if you can convince him to do so.

I have a Trojan that I use for competition, and I had it set up with a 2.5 lb trigger shortly after I got it. Light, but not too light. But it is crisp which I really appreciate.
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:28 AM
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I wouldn't sweat it if it does have a bushing barrel. That would be my preference anyway. If fit properly, a bushing barrel can be very accurate. You already have a little additional weight from the rail on the frame. Worst case, if you want more weight on the end you can change out the steel recoil rod for a tungsten one.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:32 AM
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I have a duty one with the bushing on it as well. It's a great shooter, you wont be disappointed.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:50 AM
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This is the Duty One I use to own. As you can see it has a bull barrel. I've neer seen one that had a bushing. Don't mean to be a buzzkill but I traded it due to issues that STI failed to fix after several attempts...



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Old 01-12-2012, 11:20 AM
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What issues where you having?
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Old 01-12-2012, 02:54 PM
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What issues where you having?
Right out of the box the front sight was loose and fell off so I had to send the slide back before I even fired the pistol. When I got it back from them it was shooting low so the front sight they installed was not the correct height. After the second trip back the sight was correct but the gun started giving me FTFs.

The cartridges were nose diving out of the magazine. Tried several Wilson 47s that work well with my other 1911s and it still choked, especially on 230 gr hollow points (Golden Sabers). I gave up and traded it for a 25 year old S&W 586 357 mag revolver in mint condition. Still have that gun today, it was well worth the trade...

BTW, it wasn't all bad. The trigger on that thing broke like glass...very sweet! And the fit and finish were top shelf, very nice looking weapon!
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Old 01-12-2012, 03:05 PM
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Thanks for the heads up. I will update when I get it home. Talked to STI and they said some of them come with barrel bushings so no big deal on that.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:58 PM
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Product Desrciption for Duty I from STI website: " STI Bull barrel, 5.0" Ramped, Fully Supported"
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:17 PM
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Thanks for the heads up. I will update when I get it home. Talked to STI and they said some of them come with barrel bushings so no big deal on that.
That seems really strange to me. A bull barrel 1911 is a very different animal from a gun with a barrel bushing. It will also bring into question whether it has a full length guide rod or a standard or so-called military length guide rod - the later being true to the original design. There is also that strange two-piece "tool" that you must use to field strip the weapon. A configuration that is completely different from a typical 1911 with barrel bushing. I know the bull barrel version uses it, not sure if STI's barrel bushing guns use that recoil spring/guide rod config...

Very strange...
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:27 PM
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Product Desrciption for Duty I from STI website: " STI Bull barrel, 5.0" Ramped, Fully Supported"
Yes! This was different from my other 1911s as well. A 5-inch barrel with a feed ramp! The only 1911s I've ever seen with a feed ramp on the barrel previously were the little Kimber Ultras which are also bull barrel guns. Realize even the slide would have to be different. Sounds like the OP's gun is a completely different version from the one I had and the above description matches the gun I had which is the one in the pics...weird!
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:19 PM
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This is what the guy at STI told me "Yes some of the duty ones are made with a barrel bushing instead of a bull barrel."
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Old 01-21-2012, 07:19 PM
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They will build limited runs in batches of 16 (or more). The reason for 16 is that's what's economical for them to spend time setting up the CNC machines, and their machines hold 16 at one time (for 1911s, it's 8 for 2011s at one time, but they might still require purchasing 16). They likely did some runs of the Duty One with the bushing.

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Old 01-21-2012, 10:30 PM
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Picked it up today! Thing feels really nice! Got back from Shot yesterday and was able to stop by STI's booth on thursday. Needless to say I am looking at the huge undertaking of building a 2011 from there frame kit and slide. Will be taking it to the range this week. Will update with pics and a range report.
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Old 01-21-2012, 11:28 PM
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Much like the STI Trojan ad copy says. This ain't your Daddy's 1911. The ramped barrel is to support the bottom of the shell casing in the chamber. Compare to original Browning design in .45 acp with no support. It is most common on 9mm and .38 Super calibers because the C.U.P. / SAMMI ratings on those .36 caliber rounds is much higher than .45 acp. The Duty One does come both ways. Bushing and Bull. Not a lot of difference in accuracy or function. The Duty One is equipped with STI's proprietary Recoilmaster guide rod system. Super device in my humble opine. The guns will field strip without the tool. I do it to the Trojans in my herd all the time I even do it to the Ranger1 that has an STI Guardian length slide. My Escort has an even shorter slide and still shucks right down to field stripped minus the tool in just moments from fully loaded, cleared and stripped for cleaning.. They work as per design. You can't do them just like the JMBs unless you eschew the recoilmaster for a standard short guide rod and spring, with which they work equally as well. One of my Trojans is set up that way just for grins. The original short rod and standard spring Trojan still shoots the same level of tack driving accuracy as the other Trojan with RM system.

The RM does tend to soften recoil and allow faster double taps. The manual of arms is so slightly different from JMB's original design as to be easily adapted to in a few minutes of manipulation. Reading the instruction manual is a good idea, prior to first attempt to field strip.

As with any new firearm, some may need tweaking and or break in. Even Baer pistols balk infrequently in the first five hundred, but every now and then they still do right out of the box, just like SharkZf6's gun.

Check the Extractor or the slide stop angles for the FTF issues, also. Bull barrel is likely a cost cutting measure since CNC machining gets the tolerances so consistent it requires less labor to fit a bull barrel vs. Bushing barrel (fewer cuts for bull barrel).
AS to STI not getting SharkZF6's pistol to running right, well.... they will fix it 'til it's fixed, even for the guy he traded it to. Glad ya got a gun you liked in the trade, but the STI would have been made right given the chance. Their CS is excellent. Ya catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar is my only admonition.

I'm sold on the brand. It is a fine duty, CCW or target/competition pistol in any configuration. Best wishes in your endeavors. Good Shooting. READ the manual. Call and talk to STI warranty service if you think you have an issue. They may walk you thru it over the phone or mail you the replacement part at their expense for a new gun, and it'll be right if you are comfortable with the changing of the part yourself. Keep your powder dry.
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