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Old 11-01-2011, 06:16 PM
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WC beavertail grip safety




So I bought a WC beavertail grip safety pn #429gs for my RIA tactical...





Drops right in, but wow check out that gap. Did I buy the wrong one??? Or is the part a defect?
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:19 PM
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So I bought a WC beavertail grip safety pn #429gs for my RIA tactical...





Drops right in, but wow check out that gap. Did I buy the wrong one??? Or is the part a defect?
The frame tangs on your RIA have already been cut from the factory.
They are "non standard".
You may want to return the part for a credit if it in unmodifed.

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Old 11-01-2011, 06:52 PM
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THANKS for your response. But i'll just keep the part, no sense paying shipping for store credit. I'll probably need it later anyway, nothing wrong with having extra parts LoL... So what does that mean "non standard"? Does "non standard" mean I gotta modify one to fit? Or could you point me in the right direction?

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Old 11-01-2011, 07:06 PM
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THANKS for your response. But i'll just keep the part, no sense paying shipping for store credit. I'll probably need it later anyway, nothing wrong with having extra parts LoL... So what does that mean "non standard"? Does "non standard" mean I gotta modify one to fit? Or could you point me in the right direction?

It means that your model has the frame tangs already cut. That part is supposed to drop into a gun with "GI" style frame tangs, Yours are not.
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:23 PM
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The one from Advance Tactical would probably fit your frame perfectly.
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:32 PM
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The one from Advance Tactical would probably fit your frame perfectly.
I'd say..cause he took one off to put on the Wilson


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Did I buy the wrong one???


yep

you have a Tac model, which means it already has the frame tang radius for their (RIA's) beavertail

the 429G is for the the guys with GI models that don't have a tang radius cut


ooops...sorry for the redundancy...I missed the Wilson rep's last post




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Old 11-01-2011, 08:18 PM
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I'd say..cause he took one off to put on the Wilson






yep

you have a Tac model, which means it already has the frame tang radius for their (RIA's) beavertail

the 429G is for the the guys with GI models that don't have a tang radius cut


ooops...sorry for the redundancy...I missed the Wilson rep's last post




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Okay, so who makes a drop-in btgs for the RIA tac?
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:23 PM
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The one from Advanced Tactical.

http://www.advancedtactical.com/inde...hk=1&Itemid=53.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:29 PM
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Yeah, but I'm looking for stainless...
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:30 PM
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Yeah, but I'm looking for stainless...

This is for a commander size.
http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Beaverta...uctinfo/429SC/

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Old 11-01-2011, 08:32 PM
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Do you have a full size, or Commander?

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Old 11-01-2011, 08:43 PM
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Okay, so who makes a drop-in btgs for the RIA tac?

I'm not sure there is one, PI

Looking at the tangs on your Tac, it's hard to tell what radius they're cut at.

maybe one of the RIA reps can tell use what radius they use




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Old 11-01-2011, 08:55 PM
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It is a .250 radius cut!!
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:06 PM
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Do you have a full size, or Commander?
Full size
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:08 PM
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John has your answer, buy an Ed Brown memory-bump BTGS and finish install. there will be a little fitting but you already have the right radius.

Here's what you'll end up with.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:28 PM
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What great timing. So I can order the Ed Brown on from Brownell's in stainless for the Series 70 and it would be the right one?
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:29 PM
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Wilson beavertail will not fit on the standard Rock tac beavertail cut.

You have to use a 0.250 cut like Auto Mag said.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:32 PM
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I did not read the whole description correctly. I just started google searching for .250 radius.

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Available in blue and stainless steel (S/S) to fit series 70 or 80. .250" (6.3mm) radius, requires alteration of frame.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:33 PM
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What great timing. So I can order the Ed Brown on from Brownell's in stainless for the Series 70 and it would be the right one?

if a Tac model and not a GI, then maybe so..cause the Ed B beavertail is a 250 radius


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Old 11-01-2011, 09:33 PM
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John has your answer, buy an Ed Brown memory-bump BTGS and finish install. there will be a little fitting but you already have the right radius.

Here's what you'll end up with.
What do you mean by radius? Just to clarify things up.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:48 PM
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I did not read the whole description correctly. I just started google searching for .250 radius.

the frame tangs have already been altered on the Tac models



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What do you mean by radius? Just to clarify things up.

Pi, here is an unaltered GI model with Wilson drop-in 429SG
Note the "points" on the end of the frame tangs







note on your Tac pistol, how they're "rounded"...that is the radius we're talking about.
Yours and all Tacs already have the radius cut


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Old 11-02-2011, 12:18 AM
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John has your answer, buy an Ed Brown memory-bump BTGS and finish install. there will be a little fitting but you already have the right radius.

Here's what you'll end up with.
So will I have to modify the grip safety or the frame? Or both?
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Old 11-02-2011, 02:39 PM
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I'll chime in here as I am looking all this stuff up for my soon to be new to me MS.

The radius in question is on the "frame". These are the "tangs" they are referring to. They have a .250" radius on them for a Tactical frame, NOT a GI which has "pointy" tangs (see the pic in post #21 above).

Brownells sells a little jig for about $25 that pins in place, is made out of hardened tool steel so it allows you to file the softer frame tang material to the jig. This should give you the perfect radius to accept either the EB BTGS or the RIA BTGS. You just have to re-finish the "shiny ends" of the frame tangs to "hide your filing & polishing" work. I have heard that in a pinch, the cold bluing works fairly well.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1...STALLATION-JIG

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1...IL-FITTING-JIG

I am not sure which one works better so anyone with experience please chime in here as I too am learning.

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Old 11-02-2011, 07:36 PM
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PI, look at the pic Cap put in post #21, now look at the pic below. Can you see the difference in the tangs? I would suggest, as others have, that you buy the .250 Radius jig and the Ed Brown. That way you can put the jig on and, if necessary, remove any further tang. At this point all you will need to do is blend in the steel at the bottom on both the frame and the Beavertail.


Here's a pic taken while I was blending in the bottom.

Here's a pic of the finished grip safety bottom.
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Old 11-02-2011, 07:46 PM
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http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1...STALLATION-JIG

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1...IL-FITTING-JIG

I am not sure which one works better so anyone with experience please chime in here as I too am learning.
Q'duk, the Ed Brown is the 250 radius

the other is for Wilson beavertails , which as i understand it, aren't a 250 radius and their jig isn't compatible with 250 radius beavertails .


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