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Old 10-25-2011, 03:04 PM
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Copper Only Projectiles?




Ever heard of these? Just found them on Midway's site, looks like a wanna-be Barnes bullet. Know anything about the brand or their products?

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/Brow...*&brandId=2877
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Old 10-25-2011, 03:52 PM
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Don't know about those, but there are a bunch of solid copper or brass bullets coming along now. I wonder if a Barnes patent has expired.
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:58 AM
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Ever heard of these? Just found them on Midway's site, looks like a wanna-be Barnes bullet. Know anything about the brand or their products?

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/Brow...*&brandId=2877
Come on guys!!! I also would like to know about this ammo. Price seems more than resonable to me. DK, any words of wisdom on this stuff?? Thanks, Dave
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Old 12-11-2011, 10:48 AM
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Copper Only Projectiles' bullets are essentially a duplication of the Barnes bullet, however what i have seen of their stuff in testing shows that they do not have the same interior geometry that allows for consistent and adequate expansion.

However, there has been limited testing with this round, and the profile of the hollowpoint is interesting.

It's worth giving a look to, however until it's proven, I'd stick to loads using the Barnes bullets.
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Old 12-11-2011, 11:52 AM
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Ever heard of these? Just found them on Midway's site, looks like a wanna-be Barnes bullet. Know anything about the brand or their products?

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/Brow...*&brandId=2877
Your link is no good.

If you're talking about ASYM or MagTech bullets both manufacturers appear to be using Barnes bullets.
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:07 PM
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Your link is no good.

If you're talking about ASYM or MagTech bullets both manufacturers appear to be using Barnes bullets.
He's talking about Copper Only Projectiles, which is another company making solid copper projectiles.

Barnes is, to whit, the first and only company to really get these right so far.
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:42 PM
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Here another company using copper:

http://lehighdefense.com/ammunition.html


I swear by the solid copper HP's as made by Barnes. Every test you read they smoke the competition, denim, gel, wall board, steel, etc. I know of five shootings with Corbon DPX and all five were DRT.
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Here another company using copper:

http://lehighdefense.com/ammunition.html


I swear by the solid copper HP's as made by Barnes. Every test you read they smoke the competition, denim, gel, wall board, steel, etc. I know of five shootings with Corbon DPX and all five were DRT.
I know of a few folks who talk about that lehigh bullet, and they all post references to tests which show the bullet utterly fails to achieve adequate penetration and terminal performance to be worth looking at. At MOST they achieved a 10" depth in bare gel. they were abysmal failures through any kind of barrier. They do fragment, but the fragmentation in a handgun round is NOT a good thing.

I'd stick with barns. The C.O.P. hollowpoint bullets might be worth a look, but again, no one seriously uses them, and no serious testing has been done on them, so I would not suggest them for self defense because of their lack of terminal performance data or real world use.

I would be very interested in reading the medical cases from those five shootings you know of, perhaps you can pass on some contact info?
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Old 12-11-2011, 06:45 PM
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One was a double tap to the chest with a .40 S&W & the other was a broadside with a .45 ACP that penetrated the shoulder and took out the heart.

There will never probably be enough of a database for the Barnes HP's as they are too expensive and few LEO's are issued them.

The best person to contact would be M. Shovel at Corbon and ask him as he knows of the shootings and will have more details. [email protected]
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:56 PM
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Link worked when I originally posted it.

try again http://www.midwayusa.com/product/177...oint-box-of-25
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:55 PM
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Link worked when I originally posted it.

try again http://www.midwayusa.com/product/177...oint-box-of-25
The "new" link works. Don't know why I had trouble with the other one.
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Old 12-11-2011, 11:18 PM
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It appears to me that this C.O.P. Ammo is using the copper bullets as made in Brasil. I could be wrong, but they sure look the same and the price is a dead giveaway. Here's a test of the Magtech that is impressive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mug7aoOh33s

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Old 03-03-2013, 07:39 PM
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C.O.P. bullets

I see this post is old but in case someone revisits, below is my very limited experience.
I bought two boxes of these for my 41 mag. Thought i'd need them to be legal here when I finally get after the pigs. Shot a couple through three water jugs with phone book backing and the mushroom was picture perfect. They did however, look exactly like my handloaded Barnes in the 357 mag. after the same test. Reasonably priced if you can find them and brings my handguns up to legal status for hunting.
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