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Old 09-29-2011, 05:00 PM
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Confused about p238 Trigger Weight Fix




I have read in a variety of forums about Sig P238 owners having their local gunsmith adjust the trigger pull weight. I contacted Sig customer service today to make arrangements to send in my P238 to have the trigger pull weight reduced from 7.25 lbs to 4.5 - 5.0 lbs. Sig rep told me clearly that it was not possible to adjust the trigger weight on the P238 at all.

I'm confused. If Sig can't do it how can anybody else? How's it being done? Are all of the folk reporting having it done fibbing or deluded? I don't get it.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:08 PM
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Nothing confusing about it. Sig will not do it but other smiths will. Not that Sig couldn't do it but that they won't. Gunsmiths do custom work on many guns that the manufacturer will not do. Probably due to liability reasons. Your options are limited to finding a gunsmith that will do the trigger job for you.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:22 PM
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Allan is spot on. no "smoking gun" here
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:42 PM
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I absolutely love my P-238 and the trigger feels great to me.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:52 PM
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The trigger on my stock p238 is just right. Stiff but crisp. I wouldn't go any lighter on this type of gun.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:56 PM
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I have read that the sear/trigger spring can be reshaped like a 1911's can to reduce trigger pull. I also know first hand that the Colt Mustang sear adaper for the Power Custom #1 will work for the Sig sear. The sear pin diameter is the same. I spoke with Mr. Powers son ( I have forgotten his name...) and got the specs for the adapter and measured my Sig's pin and they are the same. Adapter is here and I am waiting to play with the trigger pull until I am sure the gun is broken in completely. I have to say that I have some trepidation about tuning the trigger as spare parts aren't as available as parts for a 1911. I like the Sig and I don't want a poor attempt to haunt me.
By using the methods of finding the tangent angle to dress the sear primary angle I thnk improvements can be made but I don't hold out much hope that multiple attempts to rework the sear will be possible.

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Old 09-29-2011, 06:57 PM
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The trigger on my stock p238 is just right. Stiff but crisp. I wouldn't go any lighter on this type of gun.
You are aware that two copies of the same pistol can have noticeably different trigger weights, right? Do you know the pull weight on your P238's trigger?

At 7.25 pounds mine is a hard enough pull that it interferes with holding a good sight picture. Reducing it to 5 pounds is certainly not an extreme or unsafe adjustment. I'm not trying to turn mine into a target pistol. I just want a good self defense weapon with a reasonable trigger pull.
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:06 PM
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At 7.25 pounds I would also want a trigger job. Just need to find a smith to do it for you.
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:42 PM
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Ok. Good point. I haven't measured the trigger weight on mine. It is significantly stiffer than my 3.5 lb 1911 trigger.
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:01 PM
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Bruce Gray is a Sig guru...maybe he works on the 238 as well?

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Old 09-30-2011, 07:25 AM
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I just changed out my stock plastic trigger for the stainless one that Partsproduction makes and it smoothed up and reduced the pull nicely.I don't have a gauge to check it but it definitely feels better.
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:39 AM
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Thanks for the plug deldago, I can't see how it could change the trigger weight though but it's possible. As a small self defense gun I suspect that the philosophy behind the design is different from a 1911 as all aspects of the gun provide reduced performance from an accuracy potential standpoint. I'm not surprised that a Sig rep would say "You can't get there from here" but improvement over the 7+ pound trigger mine has seems desirable, otherwise one might as well have a DAO. I haven't worked my sear/hammer over yet.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:10 AM
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Is there a web site for partsproduction? I found the video but not web site.

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Old 09-30-2011, 12:37 PM
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Not to be contrary but if your p238 is for self defense then the difference between 7lbs and 4lbs will be completely unnoticeable if you should ever have the misfortune of having to shoot an assailant. You will be so pumped on adrenaline and at such a close distance it really won't matter. (you don't want to be in a long range gunfight with a 2.5" gun ) Now, if you want to be more accurate at the range then more power to you. I train with my p238 by dumping the whole magazine into a target at 7yds as fast as I can. With the standard trigger pull I have no problem getting every round in the black.

+1 on partsproduction trigger btw, I love mine
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:36 PM
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Most of the heavy P 238 triggers are caused by the leaf spring being bent forwrd instead of being straignt. Straightening the spring results in a (nominal) 5 pound trigger.

Anyone familiar with 1911 disassembly can open up the P 239 to get to the leaf spring and fix the problem. Reassembly can be a bit of a problem; I have a few notes on the subject, and I'll send them to anyone who PMs me.
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Old 09-30-2011, 06:05 PM
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Maybe it's just a mental thing.I don't have a trigger gauge to confirm but it feels smoother and definitely looks 100% better.I put some moly in the trigger pivot pin hole before installation also.Now all I have to do is figure out what to do with that p.o.s. plastic trigger.Maybe melt it down and send it back to Sig.
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