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Old 08-07-2011, 12:52 PM
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Kimber ultra crimson carry ii




Right now I have the Glock 27 Sub Compact .40 S&W with night Sights and also the Laser Max install with Magazine Extension. I am thinking about getting another one to add to the collection I have.

I have never owned a Kimber have been looking at them I know there is a big $ difference what do you think will I like the Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry ?
What would you suggest ? I really the Crimson Carrry
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:57 PM
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thoughts

just went through same debate. my result

I will proably never use the laser so me it was not worth it. Went with the Pro carry TLE/rl II slightly larger than ultra but more for the money in regards to gun itself as oppose to same money but paying for laser

If you think you wil use laser I think it is great gun

good luck
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Old 08-07-2011, 02:03 PM
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1911 is a different animal than a Glock!...Personally, I like the 1911! (and Kimbers) Lasers are only a tool. I have an Ultra with CT laser grips. I only turn it on at night because I can't see iron then! (I shoot better with open sights anyway during the day), than trying to hold that dot on target! (really shows how much you shake!) You have to think about where that laser is compared to the actual bullet path. Sight it in at a preferred distance from a rest (follow CT manual) and it will be right on! Here's some crude drawings I did when I started playing with mine.





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Old 08-07-2011, 04:06 PM
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Kimbe UCCII and Glock 27

Wow...I also have a Glock 27 w/factory night sights. Over the last 2 weeks I've been drooling over 1911s for no particular reason. Cabin fever, I guess with the recent Houston heat. I had a short list of full size 1911s, and added a 4" SA Champion to the list. However, my primary use would be for carry and target shooting. Sooo...

My son and I went to a local range yesterday, and I saw the Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II for rent. 3" barrel, eh? Hmmm...much better for carry. I knew nothing about it, except I wanted to shoot a 1911 for the first time! Only when I got on the range did I see the switch and realize what I had in my hands had laser sights. Doh.

I was very pleasantly surprised by the felt recoil. I didn't feel it had any more than the Glock 27, which I'm accustomed to. With or without the laser, the Kimber went where I pointed it, and felt great in my hands.

I found a local store with one (and only one) in stock, and picked it up today. First thing I did at home was field strip it. That was a frustrating exercise. The slide lock pin did not want to budge at first. Once it did, the rest was easy. I was surprised at how dirty this new pistol was. Be sure to clean it and lube it first thing!

Reassembly took me a good 30 minutes, easy. That slide lock pin is a real bear to get back in. Yes, I put the typical small scratch on the frame doing it. I was surprised how easily the finish scratched.

I then put 150 rounds thru it - 100 CCI Blazer Brass, and 50 PMC Bronze, all 230 gr. Had several FTF, FTE, premature slide lock w/1 round left in stock mag. Probably limp wristed it a bit, but not enough for this. All those problems were with the CCI. With the PMC, it was night and day. Perfect performance. It may be my brain playing tricks on me, but the pistol seemd to prefer using the slide lock release after inserting a fresh mag versus using my left hand to grab and release the slide. Obviously, am still well w/in the recommended break in.

Disassembly this second time was easy...the pin disengaged as expected easily. Now, getting it back IN was a major challenge again. I took a deep breath, watched a YouTube video yet again, and the light bulb went on - push in and up at same time with pin in right position. Done. Only 15 minutes wasted this time.

I tell ya, this beast is a blast to shoot, and I'm looking forward to it becoming smoother to operate and strip/assemble. However, it IS a HUGE change from the utter simplicity of the Glock or my Springfield XDm. Just be ready for it. I wanted to bang my head on the wall a LOT today.

However, my targets looked better than I expected, and she's a beauty. I scratched the itch and am not sorry.

Realize that you're gettting into a different world here, and you'll be fine. It ain't a Glock, that's for darn sure, but it's gorgeous, has personality, is very accurate, and the laser works well. I'd say the laser in mine is dead on out of the box.

I will likely change the plain dark sights sometime in the near future to dots or night sights. I've only owned 12 handguns in my life (and have 4, plus this Kimber now), and never seriously considered modifying any till now. That's not a slam against the Kimber. On the contrary, to me it's a "high value" pistol, and I want to keep it, and from time to time make an improvement that keeps that grin on my face.

John
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Old 08-07-2011, 04:25 PM
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I have a good bit of experience with the Ultra Crimson Carry, and i can vouch that youll love it. The recoil will be comparable, possibly less than that of your 27(never shot a 27, but I have put a few rounds through a m&p40c, so I would assume it's comparable). The ONLY problem I have with the ultras is that they can be a bear to take down until you figure out whats going on. Outside of that, awesome platform!

BUT I prefer the "Compact" models, like my Compact CDP II(4" barrel like the pro, compact frame like on the ultra), because it's much easier to take down, and it gives me a slightly longer sight radius with the easier to conceal grip(which most will agree is the hardest part to conceal), but the Ultras really are great, I'm really wanting one myself, I keep trying to buy my Bro's Crimson Carry but he won't go for it...I put more rounds through it than him anyway so I don't see the holdup
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Old 08-07-2011, 04:26 PM
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Tip for Reassembly of Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II

I wish I had this tool today, but just ordered it. On YouTube, search for "NDZ Kimber". The longer of the two tools would have save me much heartache today. I ordered the combo kit, which has both pieces you'll see in some of those videos.
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Old 08-07-2011, 04:28 PM
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I wish I had this tool today, but just ordered it. On YouTube, search for "NDZ Kimber". The longer of the two tools would have save me much heartache today. I ordered the combo kit, which has both pieces you'll see in some of those videos.
There is another maker as well, don't recall the brand, but the tools in general make all the difference in the world! You're guaranteed to cuss at your gun a lot less instantly!
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Old 08-07-2011, 05:42 PM
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I watched the video and had no problem taking it apart. After I did it twice its a 30 second project, same thing putting it together. Put a piece of electrical tape where you would get the idiot scratch and problem solved, or hold it 1/8th inch off the frame till you are ready to push it in. What's the big deal??
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Old 08-07-2011, 05:54 PM
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I never use any tools to field strip my Ultra Crimson Carry II.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSo1Y9QVJ8E

I had problems with my laser grips when I got the gun but Crimson Trace was excellent to deal with to get them replaced. Other than that I love it! I've only shot with the iron sights but when I'm carrying I turn the LGs on. I'm just about as accurate with this as I am with my full size Kimber.
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Old 08-07-2011, 07:26 PM
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....do you think will I like the Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry?
What would you suggest ? I really the Crimson Carrry
No one can answer that. But it sounds like you've made up your mind. I'd just make sure I have handled the gun first, hopefully had a chance to shoot a 1911, and understand a Glock and a 1911 are different.
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:17 PM
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I recently purchased an Ultra Stainless and love it. Carried a Glock 27 with nightsites and just sold it to fund another Kimber purchase(Pro CDP). The Glock has its use but these are totally different. The Ultra is easy to carry and is very accurate and like most people I had a time breaking it down the first time. I now have the ndz tool on the way to take care of that. I like my Glock still own one and will own another 27 in the future but i've got the 1911 fever right now and just love it.
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:38 PM
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Right now I have the Glock 27 Sub Compact .40 S&W with night Sights and also the Laser Max install with Magazine Extension. I am thinking about getting another one to add to the collection I have.

I have never owned a Kimber have been looking at them I know there is a big $ difference what do you think will I like the Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry ?
What would you suggest ? I really the Crimson Carrry
My EDC is a Ultra Crimson Carry II and I love it.

Beware though, I drank the Kimber Kool Aid.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:37 AM
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Right now I have the Glock 27 Sub Compact .40 S&W with night Sights and also the Laser Max install with Magazine Extension. I am thinking about getting another one to add to the collection I have.

I have never owned a Kimber have been looking at them I know there is a big $ difference what do you think will I like the Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry ?
What would you suggest ? I really the Crimson Carrry
The Ultra Crimson Carry would be a great choice if you want a laser.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:49 PM
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Kimber ultra crimson carry II

Started out looking at the Kimber ultra crimson carry II after looking at them and going to the gun store I just when ahead and ordered the Pro Crimson Carry II. Now can someone tell me the tool I need to get to make it easy to take it down to clean and where to get it from . would like to go ahead and order one so I would have about the time my gun comes in

Thanks for all of the help
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Old 08-08-2011, 06:08 PM
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I wish I had this tool today, but just ordered it. On YouTube, search for "NDZ Kimber". The longer of the two tools would have save me much heartache today. I ordered the combo kit, which has both pieces you'll see in some of those videos.
You'll love that tool. Makes field stripping an Ultra a snap.
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Old 08-09-2011, 10:02 AM
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Started out looking at the Kimber ultra crimson carry II after looking at them and going to the gun store I just when ahead and ordered the Pro Crimson Carry II. Now can someone tell me the tool I need to get to make it easy to take it down to clean and where to get it from . would like to go ahead and order one so I would have about the time my gun comes in

Thanks for all of the help
It's called a heavy duty paper clip bent to look just like the took from Kimber.

There is no super tool for the Pro sized Kimber's, but they're easy. There are a few people that have come up with a tool that some say makes it easier to take down and Ultra though. Other's say it's more hassle and a crutch and don't have a problem without it. But I don't have an Ultra so what do I know?
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Old 08-09-2011, 04:54 PM
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I have a Ultra Covert II that I absolutely love!

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Old 08-10-2011, 07:07 AM
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Went looking to buy a Kimber at the local shop and they had the Ultra Crimson. Really didn't want or need the laser, but when the shop called for pricing on something else, it was cost prohibitive for me. I got the Ultra NIB for under $900.00 and never looked back. I really like it and have shot tactical events never having to use the sights. Downside is you can't pick up the dot in bright sunlight. She's a sweet shooter with or without using the laser.
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:02 PM
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Right now I have the Glock 27 Sub Compact .40 S&W with night Sights and also the Laser Max install with Magazine Extension. I am thinking about getting another one to add to the collection I have.

I have never owned a Kimber have been looking at them I know there is a big $ difference what do you think will I like the Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry ?
What would you suggest ? I really the Crimson Carrry
I think you are following the natural progression of most hand gun owners. First comes a Glock, or a knock off, because it's a good home defense tool and you can also CC it. As time goes by you discover small things that change your thinking, such as the cost and availability of ammo but there are many more. You'll need a good sturdy gun belt and a quality leather holster. Cost can become the determining factor at any time so be prepared for it. How many extra mags do you want? Eventually the 1911 light goes on and IMO Kimber makes some very good ones, however, the next question is which one? That's where you are now. FYI, I own two Kimbers, an Ultra CDP with C.T. laser grips and a Pro Crimson Carry.





Either of these guns are good candidates for home defense and CC.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:34 PM
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It Made It Home Today

It Made It Home Today
Pro Crimson Carry II

Now which Mags do I need to order ?
Wilson Or Chip Mccormick Custom Mags Or What ?

Also Night Sights ?

Thanks For All Of Your Help
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:36 PM
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It Made It Home Today
Pro Crimson Carry II

Now which Mags do I need to order ?
Wilson Or Chip Mccormick Custom Mags Or What ?

Also Night Sights ?

Thanks For All Of Your Help
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I'd recommend Wilson. I replaced the follower/spring of my two McCormick's with Wilson and they work great. All four of my Wilsons work great. I wouldn't buy them from Wilson. Shop around (like MidWay USA) and you can save some bucks on them.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:09 PM
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Congrates on the new Kimber!....you'll learn to love it!
Just remember to be patient with the break-in....Kimbers are made very tight and take time to wear in the parts....some work great out of the box and some you will have some hiccups for a few hundred rounds.
All mine work fine with standard mags, the KimPro Tac-mags are better!
I also have Wilson and McCormick and they work great in all off them
The Armory has a great price on the Tac-Mags......http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_s...ml/page64.html
I got this tool for the Ultra after I bought mine a few years a go....http://www.youtube.com/user/wishbone1138
made take down and assembly much easier for you Ultra guys!...I think they had one for the Pro too but, I went to their web site and it was down?????
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Old 08-12-2011, 05:29 PM
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New Ultra Stainless II

A lot of good info here regarding the Kimber pistols. Well ... I guess I"ll have to look to the Kimber specialist here from this point on ...... seeing as I ordered a Kimber Ultra Carry Stainless II today....
I've had my eye on the Ultra Kimber for some years now ... but there are those out in the 1911 world who kept advising me to stay away from the little 3" 1911's due to the so-called "function issues".
I was never one to follow others .... so I did my own research, as always ... and decided tha Kimber should have all the "bugs" worked out of the 3" 1911's at this point.
No arrival date yet, on my Ultra II... so I"ll just have to be patient.

(hope all you Kimber lovers are right)
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:42 PM
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Follow Up Report on Ultra Carry Crimson II

2nd time to the range today. Fired 100 Remington ShurShot, 50 PMC Bronze, all 230gr, round nose. The Kimber functioned flawlessly. I'm a very satisfied customer!

A friend gave me a box of Remington Golden Saber +P, 185gr JHP. I only fired 1 round of this, but it did pack a noticeably bigger punch. Any opinions on this +P ammo thru this particular pistol?
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:05 PM
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I would not do it all the time!....especially in the break in period!....they will wear the spring down faster!....oh!...and for replacement springs for the pro get get Wolff.....http://www.gunsprings.com/Semi-Auto%...1/mID32/dID413
After break in try various hollow points and see what she likes.....all guns are different...even shotguns!.....in my Ultra (EDC) Corbon DPX +P 185gr. in the chamber....in the mag (back-up) ..either Winchester Ranger T 230gr. or Federal HST 230gr.
My Kimbers must be freaks from all the things you read on the net about them but, from Ultra to Pro to Custom they are reliable with almost anything!...these have all worked in mine.....




Left to Right
Corbon DPX 185gr. + P
Winchester Ranger T 230gr.
Federal HST 230gr.
Winchester PDX1 230gr.
Speer Gold Dot LE 230gr.
Remington Golden Saber 230gr.
Remington/UMC Target 230gr. FMJ
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