I want to install and EGW beavertail on my Caspian frame.cutting of the frame tangs is it the same lets say .250 Ed brown safety?I know that with the EGW safety theres more blending on the safety than the frame. jim
On the frame it should be cut to .250 for the .245 Grip safety and hand fit the rest of the way for best results. Cut the frame to .255 for the .250 and finish the same.
The numbers indicate the distance from the center of the thumb safety pivot hole. The smaller the number the closer it is to the center of the hole. EGW makes the radius .005" smaller for a better fit on those over cut factory .250" radius frames. The process of cutting the frame is the same regardless of the radius, cut the frame close to size then finish the fit by hand for a nice close fit.
So .175 from the pin to the cut surface before the finish blend.
(.155 pin divide by 2 is .077 subtract from .250 start radius and leave the line in carpentry terms)
I installed the EGW safety on my Caspian,and used my Krebbs jig.I had to modify the jig a little bit to go deeper in the frame. Very happy with the results the safety looks great,will post some pics
I was impressed with how well the Jig works as well. We make it for Krebbs and have for 15 years and never tried it till we had to fit 10 of the new beavertails to see the frame variations. If you have a mill it makes it a nice job!
Thank you all for the positive feed back.
We very much appreciate the work
I have one of the new Colt Combat Elites and the grip safety fit is pretty bad. Is it possible to fit the EGW grip safety without having the tangs welded? I believe they are cut to fit the Smith & Alexander gs. I have not seen EGW's part so I cannot judge for myself.
If you could make a tight Wilson Combat offset like your .245" for the .250" radius frames, there are tons of Springfield Armory factory beavertail frames out there that would love the attention....including my 2.
Just a thought.
John Harrison has published the fact that the Springer frames are mostly overcut and need to be welded for the invisible joint. Well...Maybe not...
It would sure be a one stop shop for grip safeties at EGW if you could add the the tight Wilson and the .220" applications.
Joe
To clarify for me, a novice: Looking to choose the best grip safety option for a stock, 5" Government Caspian/Foster frame that was not pre-cut for a grip safety profile in their shop.
Do all Caspian/Foster frames come profiled for the eccentric Caspian/Wilson dimension as cast from the shop, or is that profile created when Caspian machines the frame for a .250 radius?
Just trying to see whether I can fit the new EGW safety using the .250 S & A jig I have on hand.
...Do all Caspian/Foster frames come profiled for the eccentric Caspian/Wilson dimension as cast from the shop, or is that profile created when Caspian machines the frame for a .250 radius? ...
Yes. It will help you remove the bulk of the material evenly, but you will need to finish by hand using a marker and repeated trial fitting till you have it where you want.
David,
we submitted it to Brownells. We are hopful that they will add it to the parts of ours they carry. The process takes 10 or more weeks typically.
Was not connected this weekend at the Cabin thus the slow reply.
geo
I would have to plus 100 on the EGW grip safeties. I have two here now for guns to be built of the .250" variety and can say they are the finest made I have ever seen. I look forward to the .220" as I think it will work great for the new Ruger SR1911 as well. Besides that, George is a nice guy.
Shame on George for having a quiet weekend at a cabin
George, you deserve a weekend "disconnected." I hope that the weekend at your cabin was restful and rejuvenating!
I have purchased EGW fps, thumb safety and HD slide stop from Brownells. You don't need as novice like me telling you how beautifully made these parts are, but I'll say it anyway.
Having worked as a machine operator for Pratt & Whitney making aircraft engine parts in East Hartford while I was in college, I have a special appreciation for beautifully designed and machined metal parts fit to exceptionally close tolerences.
I'll write Brownells today requesting that they stock the new GS.
Thanks for not only building beautiful parts, but also for sharing information with all of us, pro and novices alike.
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