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Old 02-20-2011, 06:12 PM
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WST for .45acp?




A local sporting goods shop has WST at a reasonable price. Has anybody tried this powder for .45acp loads? I would mainly be using 230 gr. lead bullets. If anybody has tried this powder for lead bullets how smoky is it compared to W231?
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Old 02-20-2011, 07:36 PM
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I am using WST
Here is MFG data

Bullet - .452 dia. (I am using Missouri bullet "Softball")
Powder - 4.0 gr WST
Col - 1.20"
Vel - 776
Press - 14,300 cup

The max is 4.3 gr., vel = 812, press @ 16,400 cup
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Old 02-20-2011, 07:37 PM
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WST is pure Magic in the 45. Go for it!!!
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Old 02-20-2011, 07:45 PM
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WST has more bulk than 231. I mostly use 231 but WST works fine as well:

Cast 216 gr SWC, .452
1.25 " OAL
4.8 gr max

For the 230 gr CB, I would start about 4.2 and work up, if needed, considering 4.6 MAX. Velocity is a little less than 231 loads but powder does burn a little cleaner. As always, start low and work up.
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Old 02-20-2011, 08:17 PM
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WST all I use... of course I've only been reloading since September!
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Old 02-20-2011, 08:28 PM
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I've been experimenting with powders just lately and WST is the powder I keep coming back to for .45 ACP. W231 would come in second by just a nose.

While it slightly exceeds maximum I use 5.0 grains of WST under a 225 grain, Mastercast flat point bullet with great success.
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:53 PM
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I shot an indoor USPSA match this evening

I use 4.7 gr. and a 200 gr. Dardas SWC lead. There is almost no smoke and the recoil is a gentle push. I shot a Springfield Armory Longslide and the velocity is around 850 FPS which makes major power factor. One guy was using reloads with 231 and I noticed his rounds made much more smoke.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:03 PM
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I use 4.7 Gr. WST behind a 200 TCP SWC. It's my go to target load and is pure magic.

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Old 02-21-2011, 06:53 AM
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230 gr lrn, 4.0 gr wst, col 1.25. I like it a lot but the most noticable difference is in my .40 cal, less flame and smoother recoil. I have not chronoed it yet.
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Old 02-21-2011, 08:56 AM
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After using some WST years ago, I got away from it in favor of Titegroup. But, after reading a lot of good reviews on this forum over the past year, I bought a pound to try again. I like it, it meters well and seems just a little bit less smoky than TG. Yesterday I shot some 155gr LSWC's with 4.6gr WST, and some 200gr LSWC's with 4.6 and 5.0gr WST. All worked well. The 155gr load was very mild, the 200gr w/4.6 was nice, and the 200 w/5.0 was a little stout for me.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:04 AM
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WST

4.4gr 200gr lswc

3.8gr 225gr TC`s

3.2gr 245 gr TC`s you can see these streak though the target at 15 yards .

These are my favorite target loads for my Les Baer.

Edit: Burnt WST and oil smells good too.

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Old 02-21-2011, 09:35 AM
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When I use up everything else it is all I will run in the .45. Think when I start with 9mm will try it there to,but years also IMR 7625 was the best in them.
I use WST mainly 200gr. at 4.8--the 230 gr. at 5.0 or better still WSF at 6.0 to 6.5
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:21 AM
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Thanks for the info guys. Later this year I will be ordering some Missouri Bullets 230gr. RNL and trying them under some WST. I like W231 but it can get a bit smoky with lead bullets.


My PM7 and Colt seem to like 230gr. RN bullets at COAL of 1.260 so I will start with that dimension.

I plan on using these handloads with the standard 16.5lb. Wolff variable recoil spring. This is the spring that I use in my pistols when shooting factory 230 gr. fodder.

Any suggestions for achieving a velocity of 800 FPS with WST under a 230gr. Lead Pill?

Thanks again.

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Old 02-21-2011, 10:51 AM
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WST is a good 45 acp powder. I use WST for lead, and AA#2 for jacketed cause it is a little more dirty.

4.7gr to 4.8gr for a 200gr SWC lead Precision bullet has proved to be very accurate and reliable in my four 1911s. Wilson mags, 47D, ETMs, and 10 rounders all feed very smooooooth. 850fps-875fps, with a gentile push make a very comfortable shooting load.

And as previously stated, WST meters well through my LNL powder measure.

I have a pound of titegroup I wanna try when ever I make back home.
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:45 PM
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joshua - 4.6 to 4.7 gr (max) WST should get you at 800 fps. Start at 4.3 and work up in your gun. Lancaster, nice area, always enjoy my visits there.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:53 PM
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I like the performance, and metering of WST. Accuracy wise, it works well for my gun at 25yards. Haven't tried 50 yards yet.
I use 4.1gns for a 200LSWC bullet for my target load.
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Old 02-24-2011, 07:22 PM
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WST is all I use in 45 auto. Very clean and accurate powder. I load it under my own 200 grain LSWC's and they don't seem real smokey. A lot of the smoke could be from the brand of lube on the bullets, some lube will smoke more than others.
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:45 PM
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It's all I use for loading .45 anymore...Clean, meters well and good accuracy. What more can you ask?
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:06 PM
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Use WST in my 45ACP and 10mm. Really nice in both ... good as I was a 4 guage skeet shooter and have 8# of the stuff! I use 4.7g to 5.0g in the 45ACP depending on bullet adn gun (more in 5" and 6" than in 3"). Lost of info on loads on this site and the powder vendor sights. Or, look at the burn rate tables and carefully develop a load based on NEARBY powders that you know.
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