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Old 01-10-2011, 06:54 PM
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45ACP-Need load data for Hornady 230 XTP JHP




45ACP - I got a box of Hornady XTP 230 grain hollowpoint, I have Win231 and Hodgdon Titegroup powder.. to use, which ever is better...

I cannot find valid data on loading them..

I would think they need at least 800fps and probably more like 850fps to be effective..
Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:24 PM
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I got 5.6g of 231 myself.
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:26 PM
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what is the approx FPS for 5.6gr of W231?
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:28 PM
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Lemme check. Be right back.
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:31 PM
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According to Hogden:
231/HP-38 - 5.3g will yield 832fps.
Titegroup - 4.8g will yield 818fps
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:35 PM
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I have used 5.7 gr 231 @ 1.21 OAL for 820 fps from two of my 1911's. Start low and work up. This agrees with the current Hornady book.
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:35 PM
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My Hornady Manual shows...

Titegroup Minimum 4.3 grains (700 FPS) MAX of 5.2 grains (850 FPS)

W231 Minimum 5.0 grains (700 FPS) MAX of 5.7 grains (800 FPS)
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Old 01-10-2011, 07:36 PM
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Thanks for the data that helps a lot,
I appreciate you guys taking the time to answer as im sure theres lots of data out there but in looking... it does get confusing.. much better dealing with you guys.
Thanks again.
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Old 01-10-2011, 11:21 PM
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Thanks for the data that helps a lot,
I appreciate you guys taking the time to answer as im sure theres lots of data out there but in looking... it does get confusing.. much better dealing with you guys.
Thanks again.
Rocker
Rocker,

Learn to look it up yourself. You need to do it anyway to verify loads that we internet guys give you. After all, you do not know us or whether we know what we are doing or not.

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

Just friendly advice.

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Old 01-26-2011, 09:31 AM
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Rocker,

Learn to look it up yourself. You need to do it anyway to verify loads that we internet guys give you. After all, you do not know us or whether we know what we are doing or not.

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

Just friendly advice.

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Hodgdon is much more conservative, with a range of 4.2 - 5.3

I just got the same setup (231 with the same Hornady jhp). I'm planning on trying the 4.2 and working up to 5.3.
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:49 PM
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I have used 5.7 gr 231 @ 1.21 OAL for 820 fps from two of my 1911's.
Though I'd mention this is my real life experience using my guns and chronographing the loads myself.
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:15 AM
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Asking for load data on the internet may not be in your best interest, as has been stated you really need to purchase several manuals and learn to do it yourself, otherwise your asking for a problem.

Just sorting through the data in the manuals is daunting enough, you will see what appears to be apparent discrepancies, not to mention all the valuable and critical information you will learn.

After doing your own due diligence, then it can be wise to throw out you potential load for comment and opinion by the "guys" on the forum, there are some very knowledgeable and helpful folks here.

Case in point, I just tried out some 10mm, Hornady 155 gr. H.P.s with AA5, I had 6 sources of reputable, published data, with charges ranging from 7.0 to 11.0 grains, and start load information running from 7.0 gr. to 9.6, with 4 of the 6 sources recommending start loads running from 9.0 to 9.6 grains.

So...I made up my start load with 9.2 grains, it is much hotter then I expected, still on the safe side but way to hot for a start load and way to hot for what I expected or wanted.

As careful as I am with my metering and weighing, I was so surprised by the result, I took several apart to confirm my 9.2 grain charge weight as well as double checking and weighing the bullet.

The difference between the Hornady 4th and Hornady 7th is considerable for the exact same load.

Lesson learned...(and I read this on one of the reloading forums I visit) I should have gone with the "lowest" start load or close to it, of all my sources and then worked my way up.
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:16 PM
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5.1 grains of titergroup you will love it
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