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Old 12-05-2010, 02:15 AM
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Need a Solo 1000 load, 45acp, 200gr LRN




Hey all.

what are you guys running???

I'm starting to reload with solo 1000... I shoot 200gr LRN that I cast.

I have been reading around and noticed that 4.8gr is about what is needed to get in the 840fps range.

True???

What are you guys working with? I just need a start that isn't at the bottom end... I'm shooting for the 840ish fps area.

MIke.
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Old 12-05-2010, 03:22 PM
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Hey all.

what are you guys running???

I'm starting to reload with solo 1000... I shoot 200gr LRN that I cast.

I have been reading around and noticed that 4.8gr is about what is needed to get in the 840fps range.

True???

What are you guys working with? I just need a start that isn't at the bottom end... I'm shooting for the 840ish fps area.

MIke.
The problem with Solo100 is that it is very inconsistent batch to batch. I've loaded it to 135 PF for 9mm then break open a different pound from another batch and come up way short.

Solo100 is one of those powders were a chrono is a must if you intend to make a specific Pf floor. That's for any caliber. Also bear in mind it is one of the more temperature sensitive powders so you always need to add some cushion (I prefer 5% minimum)

I tried Solo for .45 for less than 100 test rounds, because of what I mention above decided against it and stuck with WST. With WST I run 10-20 test rounds everytime I open a new 4 or 8 pound keg. Eacj time the SD has been in line with the previous opened ones.
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Old 12-05-2010, 04:35 PM
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I'm on my 5th 8# jug of Solo1000, and I use it for all of my pistol loads in .38, 9mm, .40 and .45. My experience is that the lot to lot variation is over-discussed.

4.8 gr is my std load for 200 gr LSWC. I went thru my notes. S1000 gives about 885 fps MV at 12 feet thru my 5"1911 Springfields, the actual range in avg velocity across multiple tests of at least 10 rds per test is 861 to 889, with the bulk of test reults in the 880s. 5.0 gr gives about 894 fps.

I also have NOT been able to find significant variation due to temps, with tested temps from 30s to lower 90s F.

i've had my ammo tested in .40 and .45 at several matches on the chrono, and I always comfortably made PF.

HTH,

Ben
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Old 12-05-2010, 04:50 PM
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I'm on my 5th 8# jug of Solo1000, and I use it for all of my pistol loads in .38, 9mm, .40 and .45. My experience is that the lot to lot variation is over-discussed.

4.8 gr is my std load for 200 gr LSWC. I went thru my notes. S1000 gives about 885 fps MV at 12 feet thru my 5"1911 Springfields, the actual range in avg velocity across multiple tests of at least 10 rds per test is 861 to 889, with the bulk of test reults in the 880s. 5.0 gr gives about 894 fps.

I also have NOT been able to find significant variation due to temps, with tested temps from 30s to lower 90s F.

i've had my ammo tested in .40 and .45 at several matches on the chrono, and I always comfortably made PF.

HTH,

Ben


YMMV, but just as I stated you cannot be sure be sure without a chrono. The mere notion that there are variences in lots is enough in bare minimum to take the advice of not relying on manual ranges alone if you need to make a specific PF when using Solo1000.

I'm not at all knocking the powder... once you have it dialed in. It's just not reassuring enough for me. I used it for a season for all my lead and FMJ loads for one season. 2000K rounds a month of 9mm.
I tested prior to every match in varying temps and humidity conditions. I have my data through my guns to prove it along with lot numbers. Thier are many a post in the more prominent loading for competition forums that will attest to Solo1000 it's pros and cons.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:02 PM
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YMMV, but just as I stated you cannot be sure be sure without a chrono. The mere notion that there are variences in lots is enough in bare minimum to take the advice of not relying on manual ranges alone if you need to make a specific PF when using Solo1000...
Indeed. I test each load with each new lot, for each bullet I have or buy with my CED M2 chrono. After testing, I crank 'em out until the components are gone. I find that the significant changes I need to make between bullet types are greater than between lots.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:58 PM
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Thanks for the reply guys.

I have chrono... just haven't had time to use it yet(I live in the suburbs) so I have to wait until we go up to our cabin in WI to pull it out.. hopefully next weekend.

I was just looking for a starting point to get in to "around" that velocity... I will tune it in once I get the chrono set up... I went shooting today with 4.8gr and it seems hotter (well over major PF) compared to my other loads that I know are right near the lower limit.

I'm going to try 4.6-4.7gr next time and when I get the chrono I'll set up a few test rounds to play figure out the velocity curve.

BTW I bought an 8lb jug so I'll have quiet a bit to go through before I need a new one haha.... Since we are on the topic... what do you guys use to load 148gr wadcutters for 357mag? I'm looking for approx 775fps (just need a starting piont) if you give me a 38spl load that will work too.. I'll just add in 0.3ish gr since I like using all magnum brass for easier sorting.

MIke.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:00 PM
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With 158 gr LSWC, 3.52 gr S1000 for 13 shots, 755 (sd=19), PF 119.

With 180 gr lead FP, 3.52 gr S1000 for 12 shots, 742 (8) PF 133.

With 158 RN plated Berry's, 4.45 gr S1000 for 18 shot,s 829 (12), PF 129.

I had to shorten the OAL of Berry's loads to 1.475" and slowly tighten the crimp as the initial test loads SDs were huge (37-49) and slow. I started at 3.4 gr and only got 664 MV.
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I shoot NRA Action Pistol and have used S1000 in my competition revolver loads for several years.

In a 38 spl case, thru a 6" 686 barrel, I get:

125gr Zero JHP, 5.1gr, V=1017fps

148gr DEWC, 3.6gr, V= 840fps

158gr LSWC, 3.6gr, V= 790fps

I don't have my chrono logs handy, so I can't give you the SD's for the above right now.
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:29 PM
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Not sure about the S1000, but the S1250 smells like egg farts when it burns.

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Not sure about the S1000, but the S1250 smells like egg farts when it burns.

Solo1000 smells like hot ground pepper to me
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