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Old 10-18-2010, 10:04 PM
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Replacement sights for the GI model




I am sorry if this has been beat to death! I am looking at getting my third 1911 this one is a Rock Island GI that has been heavily modified except the sights. Not a big fan of the GI sights would love a set of three dots. What are my options for replacement? If you guys can direct me in the right direction that would great.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:01 AM
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I used a set of 3 Dot sights from Fusion Firearms http://www.fusionfirearms.com/servle...C-White/Detail

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Old 10-19-2010, 07:26 AM
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I am sorry if this has been beat to death! I am looking at getting my third 1911 this one is a Rock Island GI that has been heavily modified except the sights. Not a big fan of the GI sights would love a set of three dots. What are my options for replacement? If you guys can direct me in the right direction that would great.
options are nearly unlimited .
sights are a personal thing.
Some guys like one config, some guys prefer another.

The three dot config seems to be ubiquitous though.

the size you need are "standard" cut dovetail for the rear and small tenon for the front.

you can also have the slide cut to fit any manufacture's sight as well.
Novak, Hienie, Bomar, etc


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Old 10-19-2010, 09:17 AM
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Sight Options

First, I learned the hard way.
If you automatically are resigned to an individual type of sight (like I was) then get the GI model. Lot's of options available. The tactical is a "Novak Style"...STYLE is the operative word. It is not a Novak sight, it only resembles certain aspects. Novaks are NOT a direct replacement.
With a GI model you can have 3 dot, XS, Outline and post, black on black, Straight Eight, post on post...I'm tired of that already. Suffice it to say the options are wide and varied. Just an example: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=7...911-Sight-Sets
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:03 PM
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Guys are right, standard cut is right. The rear dovetail is .481x65-degrees so, even with standard cut you may have to fit.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:23 PM
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Guys are right, standard cut is right. The rear dovetail is .481x65-degrees so, even with standard cut you may have to fit.

not on the GI, Dave

the .481 X 65 must be the Tac, as that's mighty close to a Novak cut (.495 x 65)

I believe the GI "standard" cut .330 x 65
One of my Rocks was .312, and the other was .308 if i recall.
Close enough that fitting wasn't a big deal, and the "standard" cut was the correct one


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Old 10-19-2010, 02:28 PM
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Thank for the info guys! This my third 1911 and now my third different cut for sights. Kimber, Sig GSR, and now the Rock Island. I was hopping that it was a standard cut.
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Old 10-19-2010, 04:23 PM
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Gosh! Now I'm getting my ROCKs mixed up! Thanks Cappi! Sorry for the error guys.
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:58 PM
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The factory spec. for the rear sight on the RIA Tac. is 487x65.
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Old 10-19-2010, 06:20 PM
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What's .006 between friends.
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:01 AM
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Just a couple of swipes of the file.
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Old 10-23-2010, 10:35 AM
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Have the GI 5" nickle 38 Super. Original GI sights are tough enough to see, let alone nickel on nickel! Got 3dot Maryland Gun Works thru Midway $29.99 and $25.oo to install. Narrow Tennon on mine. Nice sights for the price and shoots to POA!!
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Old 10-23-2010, 02:55 PM
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Here's a Novak Standard-cut Competition Rear with white-dots and a MGW narrow-tenon .195 front with white dot, on a Rock GI.
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:27 PM
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Stick to Thead

I have a compact RIA. Mine has the GI small rear dove.Guy' stick with Thead GI GI GI. Every time I read about Info. on this subject every body starts trowing in every thing else that comes to mind. What I would like to see is photos and Info.of sights for the( GI), not Novak cut. Any part numbers for a no altered fit.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:50 AM
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I have a compact RIA. Mine has the GI small rear dove.Guy' stick with Thead GI GI GI. Every time I read about Info. on this subject every body starts trowing in every thing else that comes to mind. What I would like to see is photos and Info.of sights for the( GI), not Novak cut. Any part numbers for a no altered fit.
http://www.fusionfirearms.com/servle...C-White/Detail
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:18 PM
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Al......was there much fitting required when you installed those sights?

I think i am going to order them.

http://www.fusionfirearms.com/servle...C-White/Detail
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:40 PM
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I have a compact RIA. Mine has the GI small rear dove.Guy' stick with Thead GI GI GI. Every time I read about Info. on this subject every body starts trowing in every thing else that comes to mind. What I would like to see is photos and Info.of sights for the( GI), not Novak cut. Any part numbers for a no altered fit.

uh...that is a 1911A2-GI in the photo,GI-GI-GI, same sights. With Rocks, GI sights are GI sights, all take the standard-cut rear and narrow-tenon front. What you are seeing there is a Novak sight with A STANDARD-CUT.

Also, whatever you buy, be prepared to do some fitting, there's no such thing as drop-in. That Novak I installed is a standard-cut rear, I still had to fit it.
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:43 PM
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Mallard5, The rear sight needed to be filed some to fit the dovetail, but not much, I took it off the tapered front and rear,because if you take to much off the bottom it will not clear the top of the slide, there is not much room at the top as you can see, I bought a 6'' fine metal file at the hardware store for that. the front sight is a different story, you have to stake it on, I made a tool for that. some people have said they used a small punch to do it, I can't comment on that.I can give you a link that tells you how to take the old sight off and put the new one on with a sight staking tool, I will have to look for it I will post it when I find it.
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Old 10-28-2010, 06:55 PM
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Al's right as usual Mallard, you can do it with a punch, I did. But, I recommend you either buy or make, a staking tool. Much easier. I like Als' sight, most look way too big on the smaller models.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:07 PM
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Most sight makers make the sights a little over size just to make sure they will fit with a little filing. you want them tight or they will shoot loose, you just take your time file some then try them then file some more, you want them so you have to drive them in, just like the ones you take out. I can't find the link, I think it is - real guns.com type in the search box 1911 sights then when the screen comes up look under 1911 stake out, I think, it's been awhile since I have looked at it. there is a lot of Info. there on that site, hope this helps you, keep us posted....
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:13 PM
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AL - Thats great! thanks for the help i appreciate it!!

I will post some pics when they get here and i get em' installed.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:16 PM
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Let me know if that is the right info on the site address i gave you.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:17 PM
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http://www.realguns.com/archives/165.htm

Hope this helps

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Old 10-28-2010, 08:20 PM
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got it!

lot of information on that website
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:24 PM
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I also like this sight, it;s the same sight as the 3 dot just has the white outline on the rear and the white post on the front http://www.fusionfirearms.com/servle...or-1911/Detail be sure you order the sights to fit a series 70, narrow tenon.
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