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Old 07-15-2010, 09:03 PM
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Heavy bullets in a 380 acp....




Whats the heaviest bullet you have successfully loaded in a 380 auto load that worked good.
I'm using a Colt Gov. 380 with 3" barrel.

I have seen around 110gns used????
Mostly 95gn.

Reason I'm asking...I have a bunch of 124gns I'd like to try, I'm just in no hurry.

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Old 07-15-2010, 09:38 PM
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Several months ago, one of our regular posters, NickA, mentioned that he had tried some 115gr bullets in his .380. I had never tried anything heavier than 100 gr., so decided to try some Zero 115gr JHP's. I fired them in my Sig P238. They fed & functioned fine. The recoil was noticeably heavier than with the lighter bullets. But otherwise, no problems. Accuracy was just as good as with the lighter bullets.
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:51 PM
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Several months ago, one of our regular posters, NickA, mentioned that he had tried some 115gr bullets in his .380. I had never tried anything heavier than 100 gr., so decided to try some Zero 115gr JHP's. I fired them in my Sig P238. They fed & functioned fine. The recoil was noticeably heavier than with the lighter bullets. But otherwise, no problems. Accuracy was just as good as with the lighter bullets.
Same here. 115gr. is the heaviest bullets that I have shot out of a 380 and it was a SIG P238. No issues.

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Old 07-16-2010, 10:01 AM
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I understand the original MAC M-11 suppressed 380acp used 130 gr. subsonic ammo. Made famous by John Wayne in the movie McQ.

I knew a guy who had one of these many moons ago, with some of the original 130 gr. ammo. Very quiet but not as controllable as it is when the Duke is shooting one.

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Old 07-16-2010, 10:46 AM
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I use 115gr Plated and and 115gr Hornady XTP bullets in my .380 loads. I e-mailed Hornady and Ramshot (Powder) and they both agreed that as long as I kept the bullets at max OAL and followed the established recipe for 115gr lead the rounds would be file. I have fired a couple hundred of the Berry plates and XTP build rounds through my Sig 232 without an issue. Just have to keep a keen eye on the OAL.
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:03 PM
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I have shot some self cast 95's and 125's in both my Colt Mustang and PPK/S with great results.
And they come out the moulds sizer a tad bit over with the alloy I use
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:45 PM
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W231 is good for heavy bullets, N230 is superior. Other powders also work.

Bullitt2075, might consider VV N320 with those 115 XTP bullets. The XTP is very consistent, and that powder is very consistent. The combined consistency lets you work up to a very accurate, reliable, and powerful load (check out the Lyman tables). I suspect that you will be surprised and pleased with the outcome. I use OAL 0.956".

As Rod found, a hefty 115g load in 380auto is not soft and delicate to shoot. It's like a full house load in a 3" 1911 pistol. You shoot it for defense, not pleasure.

My last CCW renewal qualification, I shot that 115XTP/N320 load. We qualify a total of 360 points (36 rounds) at ranges of 3 yards (both strong hand and weak hand), 7 yards, and 15 yards with a time limit at each distance. I scored 357. You can hit your target with that load.
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:39 PM
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I find this thread most interesting. I own a few 380 handguns, and reload for them (have to due to the cost and availability of the ammo). I have not loaded any 380 with bullet weights above Berry's 100gr plated.....BUT, I have a large supply of 115gr plated, and FMJ bullets in .335 size. Perhaps I will give the 115grainers a test run. I usually load for the featherweight polymer pocket pistols(Ruger LCP and KelTec P3AT), and as was stated above, would expect the recoil wave to be increased with the heavier wt. bullets. A very interesting/informative thread, to say the least.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:45 PM
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WoW...Thanks guys for the info...!!!!

I just have a BUNCH on 125gn'ers around that I casted to shoot in my 38/357's. And was just thinking about loading up some in the 380 just to see how it would manage. I have 2 380's, one is the Colt Gov. and the other is an older LLama 1911 clone. Both shoot very well.

I know it will be harder shooting in the little 380 than in the 357, but it should have quite a punch??? Maybe on BOTH ends....???

I'll try some later just for fun...

Again...thanks for all the replys.

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WoW...Thanks guys for the info...!!!!

I just have a BUNCH on 125gn'ers around that I casted to shoot in my 38/357's.

I'll try some later just for fun...

Again...thanks for all the replys.

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When you get around to trying those 125's, let us know what you thought of them in a .380.
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:15 PM
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You might want to consider a heavier main spring to keep from beating the gun to death. I put a heavier one in my 45 1911 when I bumped up the loads. Also after 2000 rounds or so the original was down to 14#s or so, from 16#.
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:50 PM
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You might want to consider a heavier main spring to keep from beating the gun to death. I put a heavier one in my 45 1911 when I bumped up the loads. Also after 2000 rounds or so the original was down to 14#s or so, from 16#.
Good thought....but heavier springs are not necessarily a common thing in some 380's. And I would change recoil spring 1st. That may be what you meant.
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