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Old 07-04-2010, 12:13 PM
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The GSG-1911 (.22LR) -- first impressions




Recently picked up a GSG-1911 -- it was an impulse purchase for sure. I paid $345. Unfortunately the pistol comes with only one mag, and extras don't seem to be in very plentiful supply. But that's the end of the bad news.

This gun is very enjoyable to shoot, for several reasons. First, it costs about $.08 vs. $0.34 per round to shoot (I'm comparing the price of CCI Mini-Mags to the Walmart price of Winchester White Box .45ACP). That's about 75% less ammo cost. If you're not lucky enough to find .45ACP at Walmart, the savings are even better.

The second feature that makes this a fun gun: It's reasonably accurate, i.e., no problem with an under-1" group at 7 yards. I haven't had a chance to test the pistol at greater distances (I rarely practice at anything beyond typical self-defense distances).

Third: The rear sight is windage-adjustable, and the height of the front sight is adjustable by selecting any one of three sights provided. They pop in and out with an allen wrench. It took some patience and fiddling to zero my sights (about 50 rounds), but, as noted above, I was pleased with the 7-yard accuracy when done. All adjustments, including swapping front sights, can be easily done right on the firing line, if your range allows it.

Fourth: The finish on the gun is pretty decent -- but there is more than the usual amount of text printed on the slide and frame. On the plus side, the text is tastefully done, nothing garish in annoying type styles.

Fifth: I had to call customer service with a couple questions, and the gunsmith handling the GSG-1911 at ATI is a real knowledgeable 1911 specialist and a super nice guy. This is a real plus!

CAVEATS: The recoil spring in this pistol is slightly tapered! The wider end goes in the plug. Reassembling with the spring in backwards results in a vicious lock-up of the slide. Be aware! Also, the manual (at least the one I got) makes NO reference to a hex screw that must be removed before the slide will come off the frame. I'm sure you'd see this right away, but it's worth a note. Also, the GSG-1911 requires high-velocity .22LR, so stick with Mini-Mags or the like. I had about 5 failures to feed in over 200 rounds of Mini-Mags, which, for now, I chalk up to normal break-in behavior. No other malfunctions.

MORE CAVEATS: I read a claim somewhere that 80% of the parts of the GSG-1911 are interchangeable with a mil-spec 1911. I detail-stripped the GSG-1911 and I think the 80% figure is high -- but no telling how that 80% was actually calculated! I'll also mention the trigger. It's unlike most 1911 triggers because it has ALMOST no "take up". Otherwise, it's crisp at about (I'm guessing) 4-5 lbs.

All in all, a very fun gun. Does it replace training with a .45 1911? No, for so many reasons. But if you have young sons, like I do, who are ready to begin shooting a handgun, this pistol is a perfect intro to the 1911!

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Old 07-14-2010, 08:54 AM
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Nice review. I just ordered one last week at $282.00, and saw today that the price went up to $377.00! If this company---Midwesthuntersupply--comes through, it will be the first time I ever bought low and had something actually go up in value---unlike my Ruger LCP! Midwesthuntersupply, however, has a spotty reputation, so we'll see what happens.

I believe it will be only a matter of time before magazines will be plentiful like its .45 caliber big brother. In the meantime, I look forward to slipping the GSG 1911 into my 1911 holster and practicing some drills. As I've told my wife, "Think of all the money we'll save!"
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:15 AM
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Nice review. I just ordered one last week at $282.00, and saw today that the price went up to $377.00! If this company---Midwesthuntersupply--comes through, it will be the first time I ever bought low and had something actually go up in value---unlike my Ruger LCP! Midwesthuntersupply, however, has a spotty reputation, so we'll see what happens.

I believe it will be only a matter of time before magazines will be plentiful like its .45 caliber big brother. In the meantime, I look forward to slipping the GSG 1911 into my 1911 holster and practicing some drills. As I've told my wife, "Think of all the money we'll save!"
I ordered mine from Midwest Hunters Outlet on Saturday for the sale price of $282, it is being shipped today. I think the sale price was only through the 12th.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:31 PM
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There are mags on Gun Broker 3 for 100.00 I was thinking about getting them and then reselling a couple
we will see pistol isnt here yet
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:17 PM
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I like your signature, brindlpitt1. I saw the second half of it---the part about thinking you can or thinking you can't---inscribed on a statue of Henry Ford when I visited Dearborn years ago, and etched it into my long-term memory. I've quoted it many times, and think about it when I target shoot. Great man, that Henry Ford; his detractors and revisionists be damned.
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:19 PM
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I ordered mine from Midwest Hunters Outlet on Saturday for the sale price of $282, it is being shipped today. I think the sale price was only through the 12th.
Did they promise you a shipping date? They told me 7-10 business days. I ain't in a hurry, though, not at that price.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:07 PM
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Ordered mine from Midwesthuntersupply--on 07/06/10 gun shop called today 07/14/10 said its there going after work to pick it up
Ill let you know what I think when I have burned up 500 or so rounds
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:54 PM
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Thanks for the review. I am definately interested in one. I looked at the Chiappa Arms 1911-22, but that trigger pull(somewhere around 12lbs,) turned me off immediately. Please keep us all informed as to how this 1911-22 performs.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:07 PM
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sleazy i ordered one also at 283 ships tomorrow i hope
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:15 PM
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Congrats! I've been wanting one too.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:15 PM
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sleazy i ordered one also at 283 ships tomorrow i hope
Where did you order it from? That's a pretty good deal IMO.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:20 PM
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Picked one up a few weeks ago at a gun show....nailed a coyote a few days later. These are a must have.

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Old 07-14-2010, 08:36 PM
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Ordered mine today ! I carry a 1911 on duty, and wanted a rimfire version that will fit my holsters for drills. Really hope mine lives up to all the good reports I have been seeing.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:13 PM
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Mine is reportedly "in the mail" from MidwestHuntersOutlet as of today. I picked up a few extra mags from HotGunParts.Com. Not cheap, but they were in stock and shipped fast. Now, if Maglula will just hurry up and get their BabyUpLULA for .22lr to the marketplace, I'll be a happy camper at the range.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:34 PM
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Did they promise you a shipping date? They told me 7-10 business days. I ain't in a hurry, though, not at that price.
I emailed them with a question about shipping time and they said they were waiting on my FFL's info. I had him refax it and they wrote back saying they rec'd it and the gun should go out today. Hopefully they were telling the truth.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:47 PM
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Well picked mine up after work.
first impressions were outstanding.
The guys at the gun shop hadn't seen one yet so I let the take a good look at mine they were both impressed
Got it home looked it over didn't see any dirt or shavings from manufacturing so out to the woods we went.
First thing I thought about was the magazine safety (cant pull the trigger with mag out )
Upon inspection I found that all it does is prevent the grip safety from being depressed cant depress grip safety cant pull the trigger, simple. Put the mag in
grip safety can be depressed trigger can be pulled ,simple.will leave it in .
Next load the magazine again simple hook you thumb nail on the little stud sticking out the side of the mag slide it down drop the rounds in simple.
trigger is great, as good as any of my other 1911's
ammo I used federal bulk pack 550 per box bought 6-8 years ago
every round functioned flawless no malfunctions
( note firing 10 rounds very fast slide may not lock back,(may have needed more lube, fire 9 very fast wait a second and fire the tenth and slide locked back every time)
accuracy shoots 1-2 inches high at 10 yards , I did not shoot for group size but I did shoot for accuracy could I hit what I was aiming at from 10 yards? yes every time!
In the picture below you will see the edge of a 1 by 6, put 8 of 10 in the edge of a 1 by 6 at 10 yards.
It will hit where I point it if I do my part. ( I never touched the sights shot it just how it came out of the box)
oh yea the box is a nice plastic case not great but nice usable I never take my 900.00 Springfield anywhere in its case. I will take the gsg 1911 everywhere in its case.
Price had some time to kill yesterday so I went to 4 different gun shops 1 shop had 1 gsg 1911 in the case the rest had never heard of it.
The one I did find was priced at 369.00 I have 328.00 in mine the same place I ordered mine from has them at 377.00 now (plus shipping plus ffl transfer puts it at about 421.00
all in all great gun. if your on the fence buy one now before they go up any more you wont be sorry.
I had a walther p-22 didn't put 50 rounds thru it and sent it packing.




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Old 07-16-2010, 02:02 PM
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Great posts -- I picked mine up today - found the travel radius of the tang on the ambi safety is longer than the cut out for the grips I wanted to put on it - so have to break out the drimmel to recut the releaf on the right side grip pannel.

SWEET pistol. Well made - easy to field strip. Will take it to fist dance at the range next week.

Now I can train my grandson on shooting 1911's - I can see the grandson / papa battle at the range -- 'MY TURN - MY TURN" I should be a lot of fun for both of us!!!!

I also paid a little more than the sales prices that have been posted lately. but - have saved on other pistols - so it all a wash in the long run!
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:09 AM
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Looks like Aimsurplus.com has a few mags left in stock at $30 a pop. Nice to hear about the pistol.
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:37 AM
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Looks like Aimsurplus.com has a few mags left in stock at $30 a pop. Nice to hear about the pistol.
I have to check that out, that's about the lowest price I've seen.

Naturally my gun didn't ship on Wednesday as I was told, it shipped on Thursday, FedEx 2nd day air. Here in downeast Maine that means delivery on Monday but the FFL I go through doesn't open until Tuesday and I'm not off until Wednesday......AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH
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Old 07-17-2010, 10:37 AM
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Mine cost 32.00 so that is a good price.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:32 PM
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Ordered two mags from Aim Surplus - $72 and change inc shipping - same as I paid for Wilson ETM's for my S&W 1911 9mm Pro Series. Oh well, at least I'll have 3 mags so I can run the same drills as with my center fire 1911's.
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:42 PM
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Ordered two mags from Aim Surplus - $72 and change inc shipping - same as I paid for Wilson ETM's for my S&W 1911 9mm Pro Series. Oh well, at least I'll have 3 mags so I can run the same drills as with my center fire 1911's.
Thanks for the heads up I just ordered 2 they only show having 1 left someone better hurry

got my mags today they look great too fit great...........
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Old 07-17-2010, 06:38 PM
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Picked up mine yesterday after work. Cleaned, lubed and took it to the range this morning. Fired 500 rounds. Ammo was CCI Mini-Mags, CCI Standard Velocity, Federal Auto Match and Federal Bulk. Ate everything, no jams, misfeeds, light primer strikes, nothing. No problems at all,just bang every time I pulled the trigger. No cleaning at the range, just one mag after another. I'm very impressed with this pistol. If things keep going this well, it may replace my CZ Kadet as my favorite .22 pistol.
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Old 07-18-2010, 05:08 PM
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Ooooh, got to fondle one at a gun shop today, I'm impressed! It is a much higher quality gun than the Chiappa. Except for being a little lighter it feels the same in my hand as my Springfield Loaded, it's going to be very cool to have a .22 version to play with. I'll be picking mine up Mon or Tues, can't wait!

BTW, they had it tagged at $369, I'm glad I got in on the $283 deal while it lasted.
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Old 07-18-2010, 07:45 PM
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Got mine a few weeks ago, my first 1911 style pistol. I am approaching 500 rounds with mine and it is great!

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