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Old 01-05-2010, 04:43 PM
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Federal .45 acp FMJ RN any good ?




I picked some up at Walmart, but for some strange reason I have never shot this brand of .45 acp before and was wondering if it's dependable ( reliably goes bang when you pull the trigger).

I was going to get the wwb of 100 for $30.00, but I only had a $20.00 on me and these where $16.00 for 50 rounds so I took them.
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Old 01-05-2010, 04:56 PM
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personal opinion is that the Federal 230 gr fmj is the best. Winchester and S & B while good are not as good as the Federal. no doubt there will be other opinions
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:00 PM
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Not 100% sure, but I think it is simply repackaged CCI Blazer Brass. It looks the same, with the exception of the headstamp, and feels the same while firing.

It is definitely different from Federal American Eagle, which has a cannelured case to prevent setback.
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:36 PM
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If you are talking about the Federal Champion ammo, I've had great luck with it. I grab it when ever I can, but lately Walmart is back to having stacks of it in .40 S&W, but nothing at all in .45 ACP.
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Old 01-05-2010, 06:29 PM
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Yes, federal champion. Glad to hear its good stuff.
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Old 09-05-2011, 02:53 PM
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Just bought some today...........what does RN stand for ?
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Old 09-05-2011, 03:34 PM
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Round nose.
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Old 09-05-2011, 04:01 PM
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Haven't used much of it, but every one I have used has fed and ejected properly and all have gone bang. I got it at Walmart, too.
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Old 09-05-2011, 06:42 PM
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I've put 500 rounds of that cheap red boxed Federal FMJ through my Kimber Ultra CDPII without a single cartridge related issue. I did have a few magazine related issues but the rounds performed as anticipated over 2 separate days at the range. They were on sale for 15 bucks a 50 box, which is cheaper than the bulk ammo cans, so I bought up 500 to break in my new lil'1911.

I will tell you one thing. THE PRIMERS ARE GAWD AWFUL CORROSIVE. Clean your piece well after shooting.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:26 PM
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My local Cabela's just had Federal Champion 230gr FMJ on sale for $16 per box of 50. Regular price is $22.99. I bought 12 boxes

I've had nothing but good luck with it. I usually shoot Fed Champion or Remington UMC for bulk range shooting
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:57 AM
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My local Cabela's just had Federal Champion 230gr FMJ on sale for $16 per box of 50. Regular price is $22.99. I bought 12 boxes

I've had nothing but good luck with it. I usually shoot Fed Champion or Remington UMC for bulk range shooting
Same here. I picked up 2 boxes of it a few weeks ago at cabelas. I wish i got more, no problems at all.

Is it still on sale? I would buy a bunch more if it was.
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Old 09-06-2011, 01:04 PM
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The Fed Champs used to be my default ammo--I still think they're fine, but I shoot often enough that I bought 1000 bulk rounds of Am. Eagle a few months ago on line for slightly less than the Fed. Champ. at Walmart when figuring in shipping for the online purchase vs. the tax at Walmart. Still, I think the Fed. Champ or WWB are fine for range shooting-the WWB now slightly cheaper than the Fed. Champ at my local Walmarts.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:52 PM
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I didn't think US ammo makers made ammo with corrosive primers any longer. Hmmmm.
Wal-Mart ammo is just fine for plinking and getting some brass to load up.
Still wondering about that domestic corrosive primer deal. Anybody?
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:56 PM
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federal "red box" champion is good stuff for plinking fodder.

i buy it when i can because its only $1.50 more than the Tul ammo.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:40 PM
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I've put 500 rounds of that cheap red boxed Federal FMJ through my Kimber Ultra CDPII without a single cartridge related issue. I did have a few magazine related issues but the rounds performed as anticipated over 2 separate days at the range. They were on sale for 15 bucks a 50 box, which is cheaper than the bulk ammo cans, so I bought up 500 to break in my new lil'1911.

I will tell you one thing. THE PRIMERS ARE GAWD AWFUL CORROSIVE. Clean your piece well after shooting.
Where are you getting this information you are spreading around as truth? corrosive primers in Federal red box RN .45?
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:03 PM
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I use the federal Champion in .380,9mm,38 special and now 45 ACP and it performs very well in all my handguns.I try to pickup at least one box everytime I'm at WalMart.Good range ammo.Never seen any corrosive residue from the primers !
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:57 AM
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There hasn't been any any american made ammo with corrosive primers since 1943 that i'm aware of.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:12 AM
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Pretty much what I thought.
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:54 AM
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There hasn't been any any american made ammo with corrosive primers since 1943 that i'm aware of.
That's 1953. Korea was fought with chlorate primed ammo.
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:05 AM
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Same here. I picked up 2 boxes of it a few weeks ago at cabelas. I wish i got more, no problems at all.

Is it still on sale? I would buy a bunch more if it was.
I bought it over Labor Day Weekend. I don't know if it was from the Labor Day sale or the sale that is going through September 15th. You'd have to call your local store and ask.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:51 PM
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I bought it over Labor Day Weekend. I don't know if it was from the Labor Day sale or the sale that is going through September 15th. You'd have to call your local store and ask.
Yes, it's still on sale... But SOLD OUT! Darn, I had a coupon too.

P.S. This applies to buying online at Cabelas.com
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Old 09-16-2011, 12:00 AM
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I bought some Champion from Walmart & liked it. All they have right now is Tula. I just bought 1000 rounds of Federal Champion online for $14.95 box from www.natchezss.com.
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:14 PM
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I've put 500 rounds of that cheap red boxed Federal FMJ through my Kimber Ultra CDPII without a single cartridge related issue. I did have a few magazine related issues but the rounds performed as anticipated over 2 separate days at the range. They were on sale for 15 bucks a 50 box, which is cheaper than the bulk ammo cans, so I bought up 500 to break in my new lil'1911.

I will tell you one thing. THE PRIMERS ARE GAWD AWFUL CORROSIVE. Clean your piece well after shooting.
They may have lead in the primers but would not be corrosive. No CORROSIVE. since middle 50's in the USA
The Federal Champion I looked at with small primers should be lead free since they have small primers{ but not sure 100% on that}
The change to small primer brass was since NON Lead primers were only made in Small size.
Note also that The Champion is not FMJ but Plated the better grade s are FMJ {yes they will shoot the same} Just putting that out there.
The bullets then self will look rougher with the plated take a look at them you will see what I am talking about
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:16 PM
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I'm curious. This is the second thread that describes WWB and some others as cheap ammo. Does that mean inexpensive or junk ammo? And what would be considered premium ammo?
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:28 PM
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I'm curious. This is the second thread that describes WWB and some others as cheap ammo. Does that mean inexpensive or junk ammo? And what would be considered premium ammo?
They both WWB and Federal shoot well. Little dirty but are just fine
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