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Old 03-09-2009, 10:39 PM
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Colts nationwide shortage




I live in California and I want to get a Colt 1991 NRM stainless commander model. I placed a deposit and order at a local gunshop for one.I wonder when Colt is going ship them out to dealers I called everyone no one has them in stock. Anybody knows what is going on with Colt and nationwide shortages?
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:30 AM
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Colt has not made enough guns to keep up with the demand for many years. It's nothing new.

They are not the big factory that people think they are.

Be patient and look hard and one will come along.

Have you tried Gunbroker?

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Old 03-10-2009, 12:37 AM
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You know, Business 101 states that as the demand for your product grows you enlarge your business and increase production to meet the demand. That's how you make money. For the past 40 years or so however Colt has been an example of exactly how not to do it. I just can't figure them out.
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:35 AM
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High demand + lack of supply = High Prices
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:12 AM
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Hi,

Be patient, the problem with Colt is that still builds guns in small batches, they do not produce all cataloged guns at the time. For a few months they build 1991s, then they build series 70 or WWI etc.. the shortage could be due to the Delta Elite production.

At least you do not have to wait for two,three or even four years and pay three times the american retail price to get a new Colt model, as it is the case with us the european shooters.

Good luck with your search, try gunsamerica.com and as cited gunbroker.com

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Old 03-10-2009, 08:47 AM
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Yeah, be patience. At least you can still get a "new" 1991. MA residents can't get them any more (since Oct '98) 'cause they're not on the attorney general's list of "approved" handguns.
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:05 AM
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Anybody knows what is going on with Colt and nationwide shortages?
Shoot, what are you talking about?! These are easy times to find Colts!

You must become adept at finding them like the rest of us.
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:13 AM
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You know, Business 101 states that as the demand for your product grows you enlarge your business and increase production to meet the demand. That's how you make money. For the past 40 years or so however Colt has been an example of exactly how not to do it. I just can't figure them out.
You don't enlarge your business when the demand will be temporary, thanks to Barry all Mfg. relating to firearms is behind on orders. Stag Arms last month was 74,000 behind. There is a major shortage of loaded ammunition and reloading components, yet the largest Mfg. of ammo in the country Federal is laying off employees. They had a lay off back in Nov. and in Jan. Its almost impossible to find new brass anywhere, and I am beginning to wonder if the Mfg know more then we do. There trying to push a bullet ID on us and it would be easy to bypass congress and make an executive order.
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:36 AM
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You don't enlarge your business when the demand will be temporary, thanks to Barry all Mfg. relating to firearms is behind on orders. Stag Arms last month was 74,000 behind. There is a major shortage of loaded ammunition and reloading components, yet the largest Mfg. of ammo in the country Federal is laying off employees. They had a lay off back in Nov. and in Jan. Its almost impossible to find new brass anywhere, and I am beginning to wonder if the Mfg know more then we do. There trying to push a bullet ID on us and it would be easy to bypass congress and make an executive order.

Colt was way behind before Barry was ever elected to public office.
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:18 PM
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We just received several Gold Cups and LW Commanders in .45 and .38Super the other day. After looking at the Gold Cups (blued) was not impressed. My old Series 80 looks much better
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:23 PM
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Colt was way behind before Barry was ever elected to public office.
So give us some clues as to why all Mfg. of firearms are behind production demand and ammo/components becoming scarce?
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:25 PM
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So give us some clues as to why all Mfg. of firearms are behind production demand and ammo/components becoming scarce?

Well that's because of Barrack, obviously.

But Colt has been struggling to get guns out to the public for years.

You can't blame that one on Obama.
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:00 PM
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I don't know where you live but where I live in Central Fla there are Colt's all over the place. The gun shop i go to probably has 15 + One shop even has a 4",6" and 8" blue Pythons. which i have not seen in a while.
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Old 03-10-2009, 05:22 PM
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Shortage

I was just at a large local law enforcement distributor to pick up some Q targets located in central NJ. No Colts on the shelf at all!. No Springfield 1911's either. Plenty of Glocks and Sigs though. However, I did overhear the salesman tell a cutomer if you wanted to order a Glock, you can expect to waite 3-4 months.

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Old 03-10-2009, 08:51 PM
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Read the Sticky

For answers why Colt has always lagged behind, not only in producing enough to even slightly meet the market demand, but also in coming out with models that consumers want (a 9mm Commander in either blue or SS comes to mind), I would suggest you read the sticky at the beginning of this forum by CTsiglover concerning his visit to the Colt factory. This article was very well written and the author's observations and conclusions were right on the money. A skeleton work force and many machines lying idle, along with a lack of innovation/improvising new versions of existing production models has resulted in a stagnent company. I was hoping that with the split of the company's operations and the General out of the picture, that things might change and improve. Time will tell.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:15 AM
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Smith and Wesson was known for great revolvers and junk semi auto's.

Now look at them, they have a very well thought of 1911 and an outstanding AR.

Colt just needs leadership. They have such a name cache and a great history that when/if they get good leadership and start cranking out the models they customer wants they would jump to the top of the class again.

But, I tell ya, it's hard to have faith.
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Old 03-11-2009, 02:47 PM
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Colt Shortage

I live in the Charlotte, NC area and Colts are scarce as hen's teeth here.

So are many other firearms and ammo though.

Thanks Mr. Obama.
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Old 03-11-2009, 03:13 PM
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I live in the Charlotte, NC area and Colts are scarce as hen's teeth here.

So are many other firearms and ammo though.

Thanks Mr. Obama.
Gee, I am sorry to disagree. Hyatts had 2 XSEs, a series 70 re-issue, and a blue Gold Cup .....just the other week.

Firepower in Matthews always has 2 to 6 NIB Colts in stock.

Further out in Wadesboro, a shop always has Colts.

Shooters Express is hit or miss.....but has had plenty of new Colts over the years.

Carolina Sporting Arms sometimes has 1 or 2.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:28 PM
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The shortage of Colts must be because of the maximum effort being made to upgrade their website.

No problem in North Mexico ...er I mean .... North Texas finding Colts.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:12 PM
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Yeah, be patience. At least you can still get a "new" 1991. MA residents can't get them any more (since Oct '98) 'cause they're not on the attorney general's list of "approved" handguns.
MA is not on my list of "Approved States"

There seems to be a shortage of most 1911s lately, as well as reloading supplies.
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Old 03-12-2009, 08:09 AM
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Gee, I am sorry to disagree. Hyatts had 2 XSEs, a series 70 re-issue, and a blue Gold Cup .....just the other week.

Firepower in Matthews always has 2 to 6 NIB Colts in stock.

Further out in Wadesboro, a shop always has Colts.

Shooters Express is hit or miss.....but has had plenty of new Colts over the years.

Carolina Sporting Arms sometimes has 1 or 2.
Thanks for the heads up. Need to get out more...

I'll have to check out Firepower sometime, is there anyone in particular I need to see there?

I did see a stainless LW Commander at Larry's for $1199.99 several weeks ago. He seems to have lot of used pistols though...

Last fall I picked up a New Agent from Shooters and it's been a good pistol so far and I got a good price for it nib.
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Old 03-12-2009, 08:14 AM
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The dealer down my way always has the latest Colts available for sale.
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