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Old 12-26-2008, 10:17 PM
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left handed 1911




while the ambi safety is nice, I guess, for lefties, it doesn't seem to help them in the op of slide stop and mag release. Has anyone ever produced an entirely left handed 1911. Doesn't seem like it would be that difficult. Just flip EVERYTHING to the left side.
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Old 12-27-2008, 05:23 AM
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while the ambi safety is nice, I guess, for lefties, it doesn't seem to help them in the op of slide stop and mag release. Has anyone ever produced an entirely left handed 1911. Doesn't seem like it would be that difficult. Just flip EVERYTHING to the left side.

Yep. I believe there was one called the randel... or randal.. or some such.
Didnt sell so well, but they still show up sometime or another.

Being a lefty, I always added ambi safties, and left it at that. Not much
of a change , or hassle to get the job done... just takes practice and range time to acquant yourself... just like the reatarded righties...
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Old 12-27-2008, 07:39 AM
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The mag catch is right there under your trigger finger. The slide catch can be operated w/the trigger finger should you choose to do so. Many, many, including righthanders, rack the slide as it's positive and works on every semi-auto.

Ambi safety is the only mod I've installed as a nod to my LH operation.
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:15 AM
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Lefty

Smith and Alexander use to make an ambi mag release. I still have one. It would allow a lefty to use his thumb to release the mag, much like a right handed person.
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:33 AM
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Being a lefty all seems perfectly natural to me except I have to have ambi safety. Having one installed on my Colt and p.u. Monday. Revolvers pose more of a challenge because the cylinder rolls out the wrong direction for fast reloading. Long guns eject shells right in front of right eye but that's life in a right handed world. I just adapt!
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:11 PM
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Has anyone ever produced an entirely left handed 1911.
Why would they?

Being Left handed of necessity, I find the controls on a 1911 to be extremely comfortable to use. The slide release is easily activated with the Left index finger (while maintaining a normal grip), the magazine release is in exactly the best position to push with the left index finger (keeps the booger hook off the trigger), the safety can easily be manipulated with that same left index finger (WHILE MAINTAINING PROPER GRIP), why go for something else?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Side issue is economics. Since less than 11% of people are left handed, the cost of development/maintenance is prohibitive.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that people with two hands are handicapped because they never learn to adapt.
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Old 12-27-2008, 01:50 PM
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yep

I am a lefty and 1911 with ambi is a must no other issues though....on my revolvers I tend to release cylinder with my left hand while placig gun in right to reload amd close the cylinder while swithing the gun back to the left hand...kinda like a slap...just programmed that way....
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Old 12-27-2008, 02:03 PM
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wouldn't it be nice if they build one with ejection ports located on the left for lefties?
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Old 12-27-2008, 02:44 PM
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At least three companies in the past have made true mirror-image left-hand 1911 pistols.

Randall made several variations which were built to military airplane specifications. They sold for much more than normal 1911 pistols at that time. There were about 200 total made. I have several of them. One of the main issues is that the magazines were left-handed and no aftermarket magazines will work or can be modified to work.

Olympic Arms (aka Safari Arms) made some left-hand 1911s of which I also have some.

Rumors persist that another company, and perhaps two or three others, made left-hand 1911s.

As far as the small percentage of total shooters that are left-handed being the reason for no production, don't buy that story for a moment. In long guns, at least Anschutz, Benelli, Blaser, Browning, Charles Daly, Cooper, CZ, Dakota, Granite Mountain Arms, Kimber of Oregon, Mauser, Montana, Remington, Ruger, Sako, Sauer, Savage, Stag, Tikka, Ultra Light Arms, Weatherby, and Winchester have made left-hand rifles and/or shotguns.

There are many right-handed 1911 variations which have been made which never were targeted for markets that came close to the same size as the left-hand 1911 market. Look at the current catalogs of Colt, Kimber, Springfield, etc and tell me that all their current guns have large mass markets as large as 10% of the population of gun buyers.

If one of the majors -- i.e., Colt, Kimber, or Springfield -- were to offer and market a standard 5-inch Gov't model 1911 in 45 ACP they would do OK. So far, the left-hand 1911 market has been tackled by fringe manufacturers.

As far as modifying right-hand 1911 pistols for left-hand use, think I've spent as much as anyone in that pursuit. None of the ambi-safeties are as good as a true left-hand safety. And having hot fired cases ejected into your shirt or in your face is no fun.

We're not asking for twenty different manufacturers to make a left-hand 1911 like they do in long guns. We'd be happy with one left-hand 1911 in current mass production at comparable prices to right-hand 1911s.


Just my passing random thoughts on the subject...


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Old 12-27-2008, 02:48 PM
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Caspian did that a few years ago. Totally left handed 1911. Slide stop on right
ejector on right ejection port on left, extractor on left, Thumb safety on right ... The whole nine yards. In the history of weapons systems, I think screen doors for submarines may have out sold it.
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Old 12-27-2008, 03:39 PM
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What is interesting is how poorly the left-hand segment is both advertised and marketed within stores.

Every new fangled gun and cartridge that comes out seems to have major published magazine stories galore and full page ads to boot. Yet one more 30 caliber short mag -- the world does need one more -- and the publicity machine cranks up. People visit and revisit their local stores wanting to know if the new item has come in yet. The store personnel is ready with the latest story concerning the new fangled item.

I'll concede that there have been one or two magazine ads in the last fifty years dedicated to left-hand guns. Won't count fine print in an ad focused at other products. And when you get in the store, most personnel don't know there is such a thing as a left-handed gun. Hate to think of the number of times I've asked about a left-hand rifle, had the salesman hand me a lever-action 30-30 and tell me that's all there was for lefties, and look behind the salesman at the gun rack and there sit three left-handed bolt action guns that he wasn't even aware of. No product has been more poorly marketed or sold than left-handed guns.


Think of all the minorities that individually make up 10 - 15% of the population and how much business and society markets to them. Many have entire sections of stores dedicated to their niche products. Heck, they have laws and regulations making sure they're marketed to.
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Old 12-27-2008, 04:56 PM
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If you don't mind doing some paperwork, Dlask Arms makes a nice one... Their website as been down for a few day (https://www.dlaskarms.com/) 604-527-9942
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Old 12-28-2008, 12:18 AM
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Only a R/hander would want to mess with a already lefty friendy 1911 I don't even use a ambi safety. The pistol works for both equaly well
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:41 AM
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There have been a very few. Of those I've actually handled a true lefthanded Randall.

Frankly I only saw a benefit to it to a RIGHT-HANDED shooter. Ever watched a righty release a mag on a 1911? Most have to either shift the gun in their shooting grip (slow and not positive) or have very large hands/long thumbs. That's why you see 'extended mag releases' offered.

Search one out if ya just gota have one but as a lifetime lefty, I'll stick with just an ambi safety and smirk every time I see a poor righty struggle with his mag release
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Old 12-29-2008, 10:53 AM
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Hell, I'm a lefty and I don't even use an ambi-safety. I grip the gun in the holster with the trigger finger held high. As the gun comes out and begins pointing downrange I sweep my trigger finger toward the trigger, disengaging the thumb safety. The only thing I did was stone the safety edge to let it come off with a little less force for my weaker trigger finger. A little cold blue and you can't even see it when you're looking for it. It is still safe and disengages with a positive snap. And not having to shift my grip to release the magazine is priceless.

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Old 12-29-2008, 03:53 PM
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If I remember right the Randall even had reversed rifling, a true mirror image weapon.
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Old 12-29-2008, 05:30 PM
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And when you shot someone with it, they fell the other way.

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Old 12-30-2008, 01:28 PM
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Search one out if ya just gota have one but as a lifetime lefty, I'll stick with just an ambi safety and smirk every time I see a poor righty struggle with his mag release

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Old 12-30-2008, 09:05 PM
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And when you shot someone with it, they fell the other way.

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Old 12-30-2008, 09:11 PM
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Having been a lefty all my life I have long since learned to adapt to a right handed world. The only gun I can not use is a scoped bolt rifle. Adapt to the world (imperfect as it is)and move on.
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:29 PM
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Hammer1 is hogging the market.
As he said Randall made some, as did Olympic.
I think Oly got Randalls tooling.

A few years ago, for some weird reason , Caspian ran off 21 sets of lefthanded parts. They had one set finished out into a gun, I saw it at the SHOT Show, and sold the other 20 sets of parts at a very high price. You would think that as long as they had the molds and tooling, they would have cranked out 200 instead of 20, even if it took years to sell them.

I knew a southpaw nearly as bad as Hammer1, he had three Portsiders. he was on a lifetime scrounging program for spare parts and magazines. He was successful, he kept his guns up and running for the rest of his days. I don't know what happened to his stuff after he was killed in a freak accident, though. (Freak accident = he was sweeping the parking lot in front of his store when a passing vehicle lost a wheel. It bounced across the parking lot and hit him in the head.)
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:36 PM
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In my early twenties, adapted to the right-hand world. Tried right-hand bolt actions and other stuff.

Realized that the right-hand world had no advantages for me.

So I returned to the straight and narrow path.

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Old 12-30-2008, 09:55 PM
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I saw one of those left-handed Caspians on gunbroker.com for - get this - $3250.00. Being left handed, I wanted it, but that's a little more than I'd like to spend on a pistol.




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Old 12-30-2008, 10:25 PM
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That is fancier than their SHOT Show display gun.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:51 AM
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Is that a recent pistol for sale ?

Or an old posting ?

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