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Old 11-14-2008, 12:23 PM
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I wonder if the modification has any affect on the strength of the Slide Stop / Release?
Harry - When I tried this, a very, very shallow groove was all it took to "get the attention" of the pin. In fact, mine are shallower even than the one shown in the first photo. As for integrity being comporomised, I don't think it is because the groove is so shallow that it does not get down into the junction of the lug and the lever.


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DANG. This idea is just about 24 hours late. Put my first little scratch on my NEW Colt Combat Commander xse. CRAP. Oh well. Its broken in now so i cant cry over spilt milk. (or can i?)
Don't be upset about it; to the contrary, pat yourself on the back! It just means that you now have something ELSE in common with the rest of us.

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Looks like the notch isn't cut into the thin area of the lug where it attaches to the flat, so
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:21 PM
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Can we change the name from Idiot scratch to something like Break in mar, or oopsydoodle spot, or jaw dropper, or resale killer or anything else that doesnt call us IDIOTS. Only my wife gets to call me that.
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Old 11-15-2008, 09:43 PM
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This idea is awesome!!! I just finished doing it to two of my 1911's and it works like a charm. Makes reassembly much easier. I'm off to modify the rest of my guns. Thanks so much for sharing this info.
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:19 PM
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Nope...Idiot Scratch is the perfect name for it. Simply because it is totally preventable.
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:03 PM
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My Wilson 1911's have a similar groove in the slide stop. It does simplify reassembly.
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Old 11-16-2008, 05:54 PM
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Log Man, I also would like to thank you. It's simple and works great.

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Nope...Idiot Scratch is the perfect name for it. Simply because it is totally preventable.
The only thing that keeps me from calling it that is every 1911 I have seen from WWI and WWII has one and I think they were all brave soldiers.
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:11 PM
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Log Man, I also would like to thank you. It's simple and works great.

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The only thing that keeps me from calling it that is every 1911 I have seen from WWI and WWII has one and I think they were all brave soldiers.
I agree that a better descriptive word would be welcome as most who have done it feel like a victim, and then to come and call it an idiot scratch is insult to injury. Well, I just asked my wife what a better word for idiot would be and she said Richard, my name. Thanks honey.

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Old 11-16-2008, 08:11 PM
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OK, to be politically correct, I'm going to start calling the Idiot Scratch
"Negligent Reassembly Error". Is that better?
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Old 11-16-2008, 08:22 PM
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:04 AM
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OK, to be politically correct, I'm going to start calling the Idiot Scratch
"Negligent Reassembly Error". Is that better?
Not bad, but redundant. "Assembly Error" or I just got an AE. Poo!
It's such a standard term though maybe just shorten it to IS.
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I know this is an old thread, but I would like to say thanks for the information. I helped a buddy of mine do the same modification on my recently acquired CBOB, and it makes life a lot easier for re-assembly. I much rather be able to just push the part straight in, instead of fumbling with a flat head screwdriver or knife, hoping it doesn't slip and scratch my gun.

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Old 06-19-2009, 01:33 PM
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No number of mods will keep me from slipping and scratching the frame by accident when my hands are covered in lube.
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Old 06-19-2009, 02:55 PM
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Just get the gun engraved with a spider web pattern and the scratches will blend right in.
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Old 06-19-2009, 03:07 PM
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No number of mods will keep me from slipping and scratching the frame by accident when my hands are covered in lube.
I wear gloves.
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:07 PM
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I did the mod an DW CBOB and my Kimber today.
Wish I had tried this before,...... not more jewer's screwdriver!

My thanks to Log Man!
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:23 PM
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Not bad, but redundant. "Assembly Error" or I just got an AE. Poo!
It's such a standard term though maybe just shorten it to IS.
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politically correct but not descriptive enough. How about mechanically challenged special needs scratch.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:26 PM
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That is a really clever and simple modification, which makes me wonder why nobody contours their slide stops like that. Sounds like something maybe EGW should consider. Might be a good seller. HD slide stop with the mod, I'll take one.
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:08 AM
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I will accept idiot ....that's exactly how I felt when I did it to mine ...not the first time I've demonstrated this type of behaviour and more than likely not the last either.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:06 AM
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I will accept idiot ....that's exactly how I felt when I did it to mine ...not the first time I've demonstrated this type of behaviour and more than likely not the last either.
Hey, all that means is that you're in the same group as all the rest of us (who'll admit it )

Incidentally, if one doesn't want to mod the stop, another great way to avoid making idiot marks is to handle a specific stage of reassembly a different way. When you have installed the assembled slide onto the frame and run it back, line the slide stop up so that the lug will come to rest directly on the plunger pin when you insert it. Then insert it as far as it will go, letting the lug come to rest directly on top of the pin. At that point, the slide-stop post will be just into the right-side frame hole. It will be secure enough at that point that you can then ... (here's the different part) ... let the slide go forward until it stops on the slide-stop post. That frees up both your hands to do the critical work getting the slide-stop lug to START pushing the pin back. Once it starts back, hold it securely in place with one hand, run the slide back with the other until the assembly notch lines up with the slide-stop lug, and then press the slide straight in to seat it fully. The main differences with doing it this way are (1) the slide-stop lug is never over the frame in the first place, and (2) you can use two hands instead of just one to get the slide-stop lug started past the pin.

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P.S. - What I just described is shown with pictures in post #2 here: http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=214825
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:39 AM
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Cool Jon, it's true that I had posted this idea that I'm sure others have discovered also, but just had the chance to post a picture and it clarifies the words for all to see and understand. So no more idiot scratches.

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Cool thread Log, thanks.

BUT - Be careful; I got a finger-wagging last year for calling it an idiot scratch...
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:49 AM
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Thanks to this thread, and thanks to kindness of log man who originated it, here is mine:



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Old 11-04-2009, 10:02 AM
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I think you should call the Patent Office!

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Old 11-04-2009, 04:03 PM
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If you don't like "idiot scratch", how about "learning curve".

Also -this is one more good thing about buying a used gun - you can blame the idiot scratch on the previous owner!
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:43 PM
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"learning curve".

Because it's curved?
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:55 PM
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I use a piece of old credit card to push the plungers into the tube for assembly. Works at both ends ,slidestop and thumb safety.Nick
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