New models

[El Hombre]

As far as new models, I'd like to see a PM-7 (or better yet an Aussie) in 38 super. If you build the 6" Hunter in 10mm (no tacticool rail please) I will buy one of those. Also, a return to revolver production. Especially the 414 Supermag, and a 17hmr revolver. Thanks for the updates here on the forum.

[Keith DW]

.38 super maybe? Call me. 10 mm 6" we will see. Revolvers?...Not anytime soon.

[chingon]

Since it has been pointed out that the valor has a forged frame, in all fairness I will say that I now understand the price difference in it and the current models.

[2TransAms]

Originally Posted by icecold

so kieth are you saying it would be possable to get a stainless valor???and if so i assume it would be cheaper??

But weren't we all clamoring for a black model? With no FCS? That's what DW delivered.

[icecold]

not me i like the shiny stainless,reminds me of the lone ranger
pete

[wamphyri13]

So,
No answer on the California question?

[Keith DW]

Sorry, I can't always sit by my computers.
California? Yeah that is pretty tough for us. We only got the two in there under the wire before they made it a lot tougher to get guns to pass the test. Like a gun not being able to fire a round without the magazine in the gun. WTH! We are a very small shop. For us to develop a gun to meet their criteria would take a lot of money and development.
We will be lucky to produce 3,000 total units this year ( all models together). It just doesn't make sense for us. Sorry.

[icecold]

it would be cheaper to ask kieth to pay for you to move,good thing all those laws keep california safe

[Keith DW]

NY is getting closer to Calif. all the time!

[wamphyri13]

Originally Posted by icecold

it would be cheaper to ask kieth to pay for you to move,good thing all those laws keep california safe

Keith,
Would you pay for me to move? I understand your side, but as a DW fan and being ever hopeful, (see:stupid) I had to ask. I'll still probably buy a PM-7 just because of the quality of the gun. What I REALLY want is a PM-7 with an RZ slide. Now that would be perfect!

PS-Oh, yeah, and bobtail that sucker,too!

[remat457]

Neat thread!

Any chance that front strap checkering will be added on the Razorback? (whether it be forged or investment cast)

EDIT: just saw in the "custom shop" thread that this can be requested on a new pistol.

[.45ist]

I would be very interested in a lightweight two-tone CBOB...

[LSCurrier]

How about one of the following:


a. Combo Government model including both a 9mm barrel and 38 Super barrel with a choice of either Bo-Mar style adjustable target sites or Novak Extreme Adjustable sights from the factory? (I would buy this immediately)

b. Bobtailed Commander with a titanium frame?

c. .45ACP version of RZ-10

d. .357 Magnum revolver similar in size to the S&W 686 with 5" barrel


By the way - I LOVE MY CBOB!!!!

Luke

[czrami]

Will we see a 10MM Valor?

[Keith DW]

Light weight Commander is possible
Titanium Galls bad unless you treat it
Our .357's are the same size as the 686's, stronger, and more accurate. Lots of used ones on the market and you can get most any barrel length you want.
Read the custom thread for special orders.
The .45 RZ and 10mm Valor are doable if your flexible.

[1911WB]

Keith,

First, keep doing the great job you've been doing! I'm very pleased with my two CBOBs, a .45 and a 10mm, and my PM7 10mm. For the future I'd like a longslide .40 (no rail) if possible. Thanks for paying such close attention to your customers' wishes. WB

[para4828]

basically my dream gun would be a commander (4.25) top on an officers bottom, and maybe even bobtailed... made to take all standard officers 6 round mags. ALSO since your lower frames are cast, start casting the plunger tubes right in, theres absolutly no reson for this part to be staked. I am currently saving funds for a new CBOB, if you built the other also i would buy that one too, as would many, as most bulk is in grip when trying to "conceal" on tight side holster. Theres my .02.

[SPL15]

Bobtail RZ-45 Forged Carbon Steel Frame

No tacticool anything.

[GoodShow]

Posted by Keith DW
The .45 RZ and 10mm Valor are doable if your flexible.

I bet you get a fair amount of request on both

The first thing I thought of when I saw the Valor is
"Wow, I wonder if it comes in 10mm"...and I don't think I was alone...

Keith, thanks for all your input

Chris

[Keith DW]

Para4828 mentioned a "CCO" officer frame with a Commander slide. What do the rest of you think about that? On the same topic would you rather have a light weight frame for carry or a steel frame for shooting?

[SCW]

It seems like a lot of people like to make their pistols as small as possible. I sort of buck that trend I guess, after packing a CBOB all day nearly every day for a year I've realized that the only thing I'd change is to have a 5" barrel. With a good belt and holster weight doesn't matter, wear it in the pants and barrel length is only better for shooting.

I really like what I've seen of the Valor, well set-up for a combat/carry pistol. Bob it and it's just that much closer to perfect.

I do like the RZ line, would really like one in .45 though. I love the flat-topped slide and a few touches here and there that make it a classy pistol. I'd rather carry an RZ-style pistol (maybe with slightly better sights for carry) than a CCO style. Really happy with the Valor idea thus far, I might get one this summer.

[CAS Gunfighter]

Originally Posted by para4828

basically my dream gun would be a commander (4.25) top on an officers bottom, and maybe even bobtailed... made to take all standard officers 6 round mags. ALSO since your lower frames are cast, start casting the plunger tubes right in, theres absolutly no reson for this part to be staked. I am currently saving funds for a new CBOB, if you built the other also i would buy that one too, as would many, as most bulk is in grip when trying to "conceal" on tight side holster. Theres my .02.

Originally Posted by Keith DW

Para4828 mentioned a "CCO" officer frame with a Commander slide. What do the rest of you think about that? On the same topic would you rather have a light weight frame for carry or a steel frame for shooting?

I really don't see myself at the threshold of buying another gun but if I do I have no reason to stray from DW at this point. That being said my tire kickin' $.02 goes like this:

I was under the impression that an officers' frame cannot be bobtailed since it is the shorter officers spring that makes Bobtailing a Government/Commander (fullsize) frame a possibility. I have seen some officers frames with a rounded butt, Mac from the TV Jag series comes to mind But seriously The Kimbers in the compact Ultra family are wearing a melt in that area that looks very functional.

In contrast to the rounded MSH corner I also like the features of the Nighthawk T3 that can be seen here

I see no reason not to mimic that kind of build Keith. What do you have to say about the possibility of offering it with the melted MSH and doing it in house vs. letting the customer choose to upgrade and add a similar magwell?

Really, I don't know that the magwell is that essential but it has a cool factor that is eating up facets of the market. I know for as much as I shoot vs. carry a quality lightweight frame would probably hold up fine and get carried more.

[chingon]

I doubt I would buy a steel frame cco as it weighs about an ounce or so lighter than a steel frame commander and a bobtail is about as easy to conceal as an officers frame.

I would consider it if it was alloy framed though.

Originally Posted by Keith DW

Para4828 mentioned a "CCO" officer frame with a Commander slide. What do the rest of you think about that? On the same topic would you rather have a light weight frame for carry or a steel frame for shooting?

Gunfighter, Here is a rounded butt I did and also I did the other work. It's not refinished yet obviously.

[GoodShow]

Originally Posted by Keith DW

Para4828 mentioned a "CCO" officer frame with a Commander slide. What do the rest of you think about that? On the same topic would you rather have a light weight frame for carry or a steel frame for shooting?

Keith,

Sorry for what is probably a stupid question, but can you make a light weight
10 mm. Can it take the pounding over time.

Thanks,

Chris

[para4828]

Originally Posted by Keith DW

Para4828 mentioned a "CCO" officer frame with a Commander slide. What do the rest of you think about that? On the same topic would you rather have a light weight frame for carry or a steel frame for shooting?

I think most people would want steel for sure, i believe many have finially accepted that cast steel frames are more than adequate for 1911's... HOWEVER stick with steel, the numbers all want steel guanteed, if did offer a light weight alloy version it would need a "ramped barrel" so as not to batter the weaker frame... BUT i will say i am fine with cast frame forged slide... BUT cast the plunger with frame, This would be a HUGE benefit. Thanks for consideration on the idea.... The benefits of the reliability of the commander size upper, with the conceal benefits of a officer lower... i dare say (you would never have any in stock)...