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Old 09-03-2007, 04:55 PM
3shots 3shots is offline
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W/w 452aa




w/w 452aa is there any powder that is the same form another company? thanks 3shots
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:08 PM
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Alledgely, WST (Winchester Super Target) is the replacement for- and of the same composition as- 452AA.

I used the latter quite a bit back in my early days of reloading. I stopped reloading in 1988, and just got back into it last year.

I use WST for the two .45 loads I make. It "handles" just like the 452AA I remember; even has the same peculiar smell when fired. Good powder; meters beautifully.

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Old 09-04-2007, 05:19 AM
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Burn rates will tell you a lot sometimes

In this case I'm not sure they do. Some of the charts will have powders in the same relative positions, with regard to other powders. This is not the case with the second two charts regarding WST and 452AA.

WST #20
452AA #24
http://www.reloadbench.com/burn.html

WST #26
452AA #23
http://stevespages.com/table3.html

WST #6
452AA #29
http://www.gswagner.com/bigreloading...rburnrate.html

WST #7
452AA #41
http://home.hiwaay.net/~stargate/powder/powder.htm
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:29 AM
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452AA was an outstanding powder for a H&G 68.

Excellent accuracy, cleaner burning at lower pressures than other powders in the same burn rate range and metered like water.

I was sad to see it discontinued.

Like LSP says, it had a definite odor to it, not bad (to me) just recognizable.

If you have a chance to lay your hands on some, and you shoot 45 ACP, don't even think of passing the chance.

As far as a powder comparison, the best one I am aware of is from ADI who makes many of the powders we know under different marketing/brand names. :

http://www.adi-limited.com/handloade...quivalents.asp

While it isn't intended to show all powders as a direct replacement, it does show the relationship a little better than most numerically sorted burn rate charts when looking for a powder to work with.

Burn rate charts on the web are pretty much useless. None are complete, all conflict and who knows how dated the details are, or where they were originally obtained.
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